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by Aleckandor » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:39 pm
by Galla- » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:26 pm
Aleckandor wrote:Another Conclusion: KFC is still better. Chick-Fil-A's shit isn't worth anybody's time, even if their boss is a homophobe or not.
Fashiontopia wrote:Look don't come here talking bad about Americans, that will get you cussed out faster than relativity.
Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...
by Zanzibarnia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:49 pm
by Menelmacar » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Tmutarakhan wrote:A Menelmacar sighting? Rare indeed!
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:38 pm
by The Lone Alliance » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:27 am
by R Ev0lution » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:30 am
greed and death wrote:R Ev0lution wrote:
No, they're not, but it doesn't change the fact that I get to put my hard-earned money where I want to. If your restaurant doesn't respect LGBT rights, I'll find a fast-food place that does.
By the way, your bus driver was allowed to make you sit in the back of the bus back when the boycotts were going on. Which is why, you know, the boycotts happened in the first place.
And you still utterly missed my point -- I wasn't trying to show that the bigotry of Montgomery bus drivers in the 1950s is somehow identical or even analogous to what Chick-Fil-A is doing now. However, I was trying to show that your money does speak for you sometimes, which you would've realized if you had also read the previous post and made a few logical connections between what I was responding to and what I said.
No one is denying you the right to boycott, just curious what you think it will accomplish ?
They are respecting LGBT rights, they in the course their actions as a company do not discriminate. Chik-fil-a is not a chapel they do not marry people.
They do not discriminate against gay customers
They do not discriminate against gay employees, with the possible exception of not providing benefits to same sex couples but less be honest the employers who do not discriminate in that regard are in the minority right now.
So if your boycotting them you are boycotting them for having an opinion. What do you think that will accomplish ?
Bankrupt Chik-fil-a and leave a bunch of employees without jobs. The CEO will still have the same opinion and if anything might become more extreme.
When lunch counters and bus lines were boycotted they were boycotted for actions by the restaurants and the buslines, and to change action.
Boycotts are great for changing the actions of the targeted company, not for changing the opinion of the CEO. Changing opinions really must be reserved for civil discourse.
by Frisivisia » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:32 am
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:40 am
by Imsogone » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:09 am
R Ev0lution wrote:greed and death wrote:
No one is denying you the right to boycott, just curious what you think it will accomplish ?
They are respecting LGBT rights, they in the course their actions as a company do not discriminate. Chik-fil-a is not a chapel they do not marry people.
They do not discriminate against gay customers
They do not discriminate against gay employees, with the possible exception of not providing benefits to same sex couples but less be honest the employers who do not discriminate in that regard are in the minority right now.
So if your boycotting them you are boycotting them for having an opinion. What do you think that will accomplish ?
Bankrupt Chik-fil-a and leave a bunch of employees without jobs. The CEO will still have the same opinion and if anything might become more extreme.
When lunch counters and bus lines were boycotted they were boycotted for actions by the restaurants and the buslines, and to change action.
Boycotts are great for changing the actions of the targeted company, not for changing the opinion of the CEO. Changing opinions really must be reserved for civil discourse.
The fact that Chick-Fil-A doesn't openly discriminate against LGBT individuals doesn't actually mean anything to me. Sexual-orientation-based discrimination is illegal in 21 states. It's also illegal in Atlanta, where Chick-Fil-A's headquarters are. So... You know, the fact that they don't discriminate against LGBT communities means nothing to me, since they can't legally do it. For all I know, they would discriminate against LGBT customers and employees if they legally could.
Also, the CEO didn't say "I personally believe in traditional marriage" as a personal opinion. As a representative of Chick-Fil-A, he said that the company supports "the Biblical definition of the family unit." Meaning that, as an organization, Chick-Fil-A is opposed to same-sex marriage. Meaning that the company that is Chick-Fil-A, as a collective, opposes LGBT rights, even if some individual employees might not.
Meaning that, you know, one ostensible objective for a hypothetical boycott might be to just drive the entire company into the ground.
by Herskerstad » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:17 am
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