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Anyone here who doesn't believe in evolution?

Postby Iceland-Thule » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:07 pm

Is there anyone here who thinks that the Earth is 6000 years old and that everything was drowned in a great flood.
If you do please tell me how the FUCK you can ignore all the evidence in favor of evolution.
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Postby Smunkeeville » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:10 pm

Selective ignorance. You know how you have to have a suspended disbelief thing going on to enjoy a movie? Some people need this to enjoy their religion.

I talked to a guy once who said if they proved that Genesis wasn't literal he would quit going to church and be an atheist. I remember being sad at how shallow his supposed faith was.

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Postby Douchebaggerry » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:11 pm

There'll be the odd one or two nutters here who don't, yeah.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:11 pm

It's willful ignorance.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Iceland-Thule wrote:Is there anyone here who thinks that the Earth is 6000 years old and that everything was drowned in a great flood.
If you do please tell me how the FUCK you can ignore all the evidence in favor of evolution.

Oh, now, come on, you can figure this out. God, the Bible, I mean, it's easy. The human mind is an amazing thing, it can ignore all kinds of information with almost no effort at all. Take women in abusive relationships, it's well documented that they can ignore the evidence of their own abuse, even though it is practiced on their own bodies, for decades. And have you read any science books? They're boring. The Bible has God and wars and sex and heroes and villans and titanic special effects, why, you'd think Hollywood came up with the plot.
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Postby Chrobalta » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Yeah, theirs people like that here... sadly :(
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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Well, considering both are still only theories, be that creationism and evolutionism I refrain from saying either happened definitively, and until someone comes along and proves to me that they were there and saw what actually happened, I'm going to stick with both are theories, one is simply backed by science, the other is backed by faith.

Though on a personal note I do agree that evolution happened, however, I also believe in a higher power.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:16 pm

Conservative Ad Droid wrote:Well, considering both are still only theories, be that creationism and evolutionism I refrain from saying either happened definitively, and until someone comes along and proves to me that they were there and saw what actually happened, I'm going to stick with both are theories, one is simply backed by science, the other is backed by faith.

Though on a personal note I do agree that evolution happened, however, I also believe in a higher power.

Ah, the "only theories" gambit. I like that one. Evolution is a theory like gravity. It has a great mass of actual physical evidence for it. In fact, the "theory" is just the explanation of the evidence. Creationism, on the other hand, does not have any evidence. It is a myth drawn from sources in the Middle East about four or five thousand years ago. It explains nothing.
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Postby Chrobalta » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:16 pm

One is backed by science, the other is backed by nothing. Tough Choice :roll:
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Postby Angleter » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:16 pm

I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:17 pm

Conservative Ad Droid wrote:Well, considering both are still only theories, be that creationism and evolutionism I refrain from saying either happened definitively, and until someone comes along and proves to me that they were there and saw what actually happened, I'm going to stick with both are theories, one is simply backed by science, the other is backed by faith.


Do note that the word "theory" has two different meanings here ;)

I myself do not "believe" in evolution. I do however believe it is by far the best scientific theory to explain the diversity of life we currently have.

My religious beliefs on this are torn between intelligent design by the flying spaghetti monster and the creation story of the ancient Egyptians, involving the great God Atum giving himself a blowjob.
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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Correct, however, technically, it is a theory, therefore I maintain it is a strong, scientifically backed theory.

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Farnhamia wrote:]In fact, the "theory" is just the explanation of the evidence. Creationism, on the other hand, does not have any evidence. It is a myth drawn from sources in the Middle East about four or five thousand years ago. It explains nothing.


Partially wrong. Religion is about faith, not evidence.
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Postby Kobrania » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:18 pm

I think this is a flame-bait topic.

But yeah, evolution.
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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:19 pm

Chrobalta wrote:One is backed by science, the other is backed by nothing. Tough Choice :roll:


Wrong, the other is backed by faith.
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Postby Iceland-Thule » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:19 pm

Angleter wrote:I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).

Even though i dont think life was created by a god i have to admitt that evolution doesnt prove the existance of god wrong.

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Postby Psybris » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:20 pm

Angleter wrote:I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).


So to kill the dinosaurs he threw rocks at the Earth?
Eventually dinosaurs would've become fully intelligent lizard people.
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Postby Kobrania » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:20 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Conservative Ad Droid wrote:Well, considering both are still only theories, be that creationism and evolutionism I refrain from saying either happened definitively, and until someone comes along and proves to me that they were there and saw what actually happened, I'm going to stick with both are theories, one is simply backed by science, the other is backed by faith.


Do note that the word "theory" has two different meanings here ;)

I myself do not "believe" in evolution. I do however believe it is by far the best scientific theory to explain the diversity of life we currently have.

My religious beliefs on this are torn between intelligent design by the flying spaghetti monster and the creation story of the ancient Egyptians, involving the great God Atum giving himself a blowjob.

I want rule 34 on that NOW!!
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Postby DrunkenDove » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

There's no need to believe in evolution. It's like believing in erosion or condensation. It's true whether you have faith or not.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

Conservative Ad Droid wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:One is backed by science, the other is backed by nothing. Tough Choice :roll:


Wrong, the other is backed by faith.

Which, in the realm of science, is nothing.

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Postby The Naacal » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

I heard a theory somewhere that "Seven Days" were in another temporal framework. ie: a day could have represented a geological age. In that case 6,000 years could actually represent several billion. Also that 6,000 years was the start of some form of human recorded history.

If you use either of those admittedly metaphorical interpretations, then there is plenty of room for evolution to occur. And they make a lot more logical sense in general then the world being literally 6,000x365 days old.

Side note on the Flood: I once shook a guy up completely when I answered his "And all human and animal life, save that on the Ark, was destroyed" with the simple comment.

"What about the FISH?"

The mental chaos that ensued was somewhat humorous. :rofl:

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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

Psybris wrote:
Angleter wrote:I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).


So to kill the dinosaurs he threw rocks at the Earth?
Eventually dinosaurs would've become fully intelligent lizard people.


Actually, I threw small rocks, the fucking scientists keep getting it wrong.
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Postby Kobrania » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

Conservative Ad Droid wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:One is backed by science, the other is backed by nothing. Tough Choice :roll:


Wrong, the other is backed by faith.

Only American protestants seem to rely on faith in the western world.
Kind of a minority don't you think?
Even The Catholic Church accepted it.
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Postby Iceland-Thule » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Psybris wrote:
Angleter wrote:I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).


So to kill the dinosaurs he threw rocks at the Earth?
Eventually dinosaurs would've become fully intelligent lizard people.

Some creationist think the dinosaurs drowned in the flood.
So much for takin 2 of every animal

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Postby Conservative Ad Droid » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Sarkhaan wrote:
Conservative Ad Droid wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:One is backed by science, the other is backed by nothing. Tough Choice :roll:


Wrong, the other is backed by faith.

Which, in the realm of science, is nothing.


Correct, but to construe that it is backed by nothing at all, is wrong.
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Postby Tagmatium » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Psybris wrote:
Angleter wrote:I believe in evolution. God only started life off and then waited for intelligent life to form. Every now and then he helped along the way- see the mass extinctions of life that used to happen (metaphor=Noah's flood).


So to kill the dinosaurs he threw rocks at the Earth?
Eventually dinosaurs would've become fully intelligent lizard people.

Not necessarily.

I'd like to say "No, they bloody wouldn't have!", but I can't, as my alternate universe machine isn't working.
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