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Romney VS Obama: The Megathread

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Who do you support in the USA presidential election?

Mitt Romney
451
22%
Barack Obama
1114
54%
Gary Johnson
106
5%
Jill Stein
118
6%
Ron Paul
264
13%
 
Total votes : 2053

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:19 am

Since the USA general election is in less then three months, I decided a thread of general debate and discussion of the election between Romney and Obama was needed. So NSG? Who is your president, Romney or Obama? Me? I prefer Romney, I dont like his Free Market ideals, but slashing spending, having a conservative social policy, an interventsionist policy, I agree with him on every point but Free Market. He might even be better than John McCain. But since the thread isnt just for my opinion, what is YOUR opinion on the USA election NSG?

ModEdit by Katganistan wrote:Since there is a HUGE amount of interest in these candidates, and consequently, a HUGE number of threads, this will become the official thread of the 2012 Presidential campaign. All other threads will be locked or merged into this one, with the exception of the political analysis thread on handicapping the race.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:21 am

Obama partially since conservative social policies are stupid. Also Romney's economic plans don't work nor will they ever work.
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Postby The UEG-Space Command » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:23 am

Obama is a US citizen so he wins my vote, oh and he has sanity.

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Postby Olthar » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:24 am

I'm voting for Vermin Supreme. He's the only candidate who's got a zombie defense plan, and, looking at the way things have been going the past few weeks, I'm guessing we're going to need a plan sooner rather than later. Plus, I like his "a pony for every American" idea.
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Postby Magmia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:25 am

My choice? Micky Mouse :rofl:

No, in all seriousness, Obama. ONLY because I can't stand Mitt

Even my mother, who hates Obama, and has been a Republican most of her life, is not voting for Mitt, but instead is voting for Obama

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Postby Trilobitia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:27 am

Other: Rocky Anderson.
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Postby Radiatia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 am

My vote goes to this guy.

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Postby Drekka » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 am

Obama, though I dont approve of the defense budget cuts.
For example, when your son is in "the sh*t" , you want
him to have the best s equipment possible. Also, the military
provides millions of jobs and job training for those who choose
to work afterward. Instead of military cuts, we should invest in
military financial efficiency (more bang for the buck)


Other than that, IMHO, he is the best Commander and Chief
we have had in a long time.

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Postby Trilobitia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:37 am

Drekka wrote:Obama, though I dont approve of the defense budget cuts.
For example, when your son is in "the sh*t" , you want
him to have the best s equipment possible. Also, the military
provides millions of jobs and job training for those who choose
to work afterward. Instead of military cuts, we should invest in
military financial efficiency (more bang for the buck)


Other than that, IMHO, he is the best Commander and Chief
we have had in a long time.


One decade of increased spending in defense is a lot of money. What exactly is the problem with cutting our defense budget some?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:42 am

Obama.

The mendacious Mr. Romney will probably make us loose quite a bit if not all.....
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Postby Trilobitia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:45 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Obama.

The mendacious Mr. Romney will probably make us loose quite a bit if not all.....


It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars. Of course, two wrongs don't make a right, but the point of hypocrisy stands.

If I can make an observation, the term ''mendacious'' appears in both your signature and this post. Is that a word you saw and decided to use a lot to seem intelligent, or what? I'm interested to know.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:49 am

Trilobitia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Obama.

The mendacious Mr. Romney will probably make us loose quite a bit if not all.....


It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars. Of course, two wrongs don't make a right, but the point of hypocrisy stands.

There's a fairly big difference in the frequency between the two...

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Postby Olthar » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:50 am

Trilobitia wrote:It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars.

It could also be said that every politician in the history of politics is a liar. It sucks, but it's just something you have to ignore.
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Postby Trilobitia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:50 am

Laerod wrote:
Trilobitia wrote:
It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars. Of course, two wrongs don't make a right, but the point of hypocrisy stands.

There's a fairly big difference in the frequency between the two...


I would agree with that statement. I was only playing devil's advocate.
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Postby Trilobitia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:52 am

Olthar wrote:
Trilobitia wrote:It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars.

It could also be said that every politician in the history of politics is a liar. It sucks, but it's just something you have to ignore.


I was going to say that, but it's way too broad for my preferences.
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Postby Rubinoutia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:52 am

Obama

Romney wouldn't care about the average American.

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Postby Maurepas » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:57 am

Why no Stewart Alexander? I mean, he won't win, and the fact that he won't even be on the ballot in MS means it wouldn't do any good for me to vote for him, but if I had my choice I'd still want him to win, :p

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Postby Corrian » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:58 am

I'm having a hard time deciding between Gary Johnson or Barack Obama to select as my option.
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Postby Australasia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:59 am

Corrian wrote:I'm having a hard time deciding between Gary Johnson or Barack Obama to select as my option.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:06 am

Laerod wrote:
Trilobitia wrote:
It could be said that both President Obama and Mitt Romney are liars. Of course, two wrongs don't make a right, but the point of hypocrisy stands.

There's a fairly big difference in the frequency between the two...


Indeed. As Madow said Romney lies about the stupid stuff.

In this age of smart phones, he is stupid enough to utter "I didn't say that!"
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:34 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:... slashing spending,...

Do you really trust a Republican to slash governmental spending, given their precedents (Reagan and Bush jr)? Or do you mean they'll slash only the part you/they don't like (like education, healthcare, welfare), while increasing public subsidies for corporations, defense contracts and other military expenditure?

Also... why not Jill Stein, Risottia? *blames the FPTP*
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Postby Nazis in Space » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:38 am

Don't care.

Unless Romney takes one of the Ricks as his running mate. Then Romney all the way.

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Postby The Richard Bastion Republic » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:48 am

I know Romney will make the Economy better, and I saw an ad that informed on the fact that Obama is increasing the debt by 4 million $$$ a day.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:49 am

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:I know Romney will make the Economy better,

Don't lie. No one does.
and I saw an ad that informed on the fact that Obama is increasing the debt by 4 million $$$ a day.

And if it was on TV, it must be true...

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Postby Second Korean Empire » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:29 am

Been listening to a lot of U.S radio talk shows recently onyoutube because I have too much time on my hands at home. Michael Savage, Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity and Michelle Malkin all seem to hate Obama's guts, and Howard Stern disapproves as well. I haven't been able to really form my own opinion about Obama before, but after listening to not only the news but also both conservative and liberal media commentary, I really dislike what Obama's doing at present. In the past, I thought that Mitt Romney was just some kind of idiot who's only been successful so far because of his charisma, but after listening to commentary on radio shows instead of just watching and reading news on tv and in the paper, I'm leaning towards Romney.

...But hey, I can't even vote. I'm just a Korean guy in Melbourne who's an Australian citizen. :p

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