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Campinia
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Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Campinia » Tue May 29, 2012 4:04 am

Wewak wrote:I dont have time to read through all your comments whatsoever. I will only give my straight forward opinion based on personal knowledge. There is no need for the United Kingdom of Great Britain Northern Ireland and other CommonWealth countries to be liberated by law. Why should we pass laws to liberate nations when we have a World Assembly which say all nations are free to make their own choices. I formed my own Empire to: take control of my family's soverign wealth, make a new alliance and build up a greater global community. Lets try and see things on a different perspective. Most of our infrastructure is at UK and we still have more and its enough for everyone and no need to be greedy. I PETER CHANNEL MALENKI as the principal owner of the soverign wealth of my Empire previously held by the Head of the CommonWealth of Nations, hereby extend my hand to all other nations to join the World Assembly and lets build this world together. You still have my heart UK, but not my mind. For now I do not agree with this broad proposal and rule that it be set aside for the parties to alternatively settle their grievances. But if that process fails then this matter be referred to an internation tribunal nominated by WA member nation states. I vote AGAINST this proposal.

Or you could, you know, know what the hell you're talking about before commenting?
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Parti Ouvrier
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Tue May 29, 2012 4:13 am

Liek I said before.

Abstain.

I see no purpose in liberating an imperial region from another form of imperialism.
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Sacred Yggdrasil
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Postby Sacred Yggdrasil » Tue May 29, 2012 6:23 am

Novus Niciae wrote:About half the nations in the region are flying battle flags from what is presumably the GGR (OOC: A modified Nazi battle flag with the Wehrmacht cross in the place of the swastika) so the liberation motion should proceed. The delegate can propose a repeal for the liberation once he or she kicks them out or they auto delete.

This is completely wrong. The new WA Regional Delegate is firmly in control of TUKB and has removed its password protection. Given that all a liberation resolution does is remove password protection, there's absolutely no need -- whatsoever -- for the liberation resolution. Why wait to author a repeal when we can scuttle an unneeded liberation resolution that's still at vote?
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Xanthal
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Postby Xanthal » Tue May 29, 2012 9:28 am

Sacred Yggdrasil wrote:This is completely wrong. The new WA Regional Delegate is firmly in control of TUKB and has removed its password protection. Given that all a liberation resolution does is remove password protection, there's absolutely no need -- whatsoever -- for the liberation resolution. Why wait to author a repeal when we can scuttle an unneeded liberation resolution that's still at vote?

Xanthal will be maintaining its vote for the proposal for the time being. Being unfamiliar with UKB's background, I have a poor sense of its internal politics. If I could be directed to evidence that the current Delegate is a native and that a consensus of natives now opposes Liberating the region, I will be compelled to reverse my position. Otherwise I will be standing by my position that, when in doubt, it is best to err on the side of Liberation.
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Cowardly Pacifists
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Postby Cowardly Pacifists » Tue May 29, 2012 9:36 am

My delegation votes FOR the liberation of the United Kingdom of Britain. We have no strong feeling about the proposal one way or the other, but voting FOR seems like the popular choice and we want to be popular.

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Jaggeria
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Founded: Mar 30, 2012
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Postby Jaggeria » Tue May 29, 2012 10:28 am

There is no need for this resolution any longer, as the GGR has lost its hold over UKB. If you vote FOR now, it will only weaken UKB's defenses from future invasion. Therefore I am against this proposal.

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Delegate Vinage
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Founded: Jan 21, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Delegate Vinage » Tue May 29, 2012 10:46 am

I, Lothar Prolark, will be changing Europeia's vote to NAY after the region was liberated by Land of Kings and Emperors forces yesterday. This Liberation is no longer required with former protectors returning and with the Nazis banished from the region. We do hope others will change their vote but, since it is very likely to pass, then I will be supporting the repeal of this Liberation proposal.

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Common-Sense Politics
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Postby Common-Sense Politics » Wed May 30, 2012 7:21 pm

Xanthal wrote:
Sacred Yggdrasil wrote:This is completely wrong. The new WA Regional Delegate is firmly in control of TUKB and has removed its password protection. Given that all a liberation resolution does is remove password protection, there's absolutely no need -- whatsoever -- for the liberation resolution. Why wait to author a repeal when we can scuttle an unneeded liberation resolution that's still at vote?

Xanthal will be maintaining its vote for the proposal for the time being. Being unfamiliar with UKB's background, I have a poor sense of its internal politics. If I could be directed to evidence that the current Delegate is a native and that a consensus of natives now opposes Liberating the region, I will be compelled to reverse my position. Otherwise I will be standing by my position that, when in doubt, it is best to err on the side of Liberation.

You just have zero idea what you're talking about, huh?
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Xanthal
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Postby Xanthal » Wed May 30, 2012 9:22 pm

Common-Sense Politics wrote:You just have zero idea what you're talking about, huh?

I know precisely what I'm talking about. Rather than pretend I have information I don't, I'm seeking it.
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United Senate
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Founded: May 30, 2012
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Postby United Senate » Thu May 31, 2012 8:32 am

Voting Nay.

"The United Senate, proud of their systematic, utilitarian and logic decision-making refuses to agree that sending forces to an already decimated region, potentially scarifying thousands to save the few, can be seen as a good idea. Certainly we condemn the actions of the GGR, nevertheless a "liberation" seems out of place- especially as The United Kingdom of Britain are imperialistic themselves.

Instead we should support the colonization and integration of The United Kingdom of Britain by the GGR, as we are certain that the GGR will prove successful in establishing a stable and progressive society. Let us be the invisible hand instead the hammer in this conflict- the GGR itself was already condemned, thus we should concentrate on them, as a region itself, and not on The United Kingdom of Britain, which was lost before."

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Bob10101010
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Ex-Nation

Postby Bob10101010 » Thu May 31, 2012 8:44 am

United Senate wrote:Voting Nay.

"The United Senate, proud of their systematic, utilitarian and logic decision-making refuses to agree that sending forces to an already decimated region, potentially scarifying thousands to save the few, can be seen as a good idea. Certainly we condemn the actions of the GGR, nevertheless a "liberation" seems out of place- especially as The United Kingdom of Britain are imperialistic themselves.

Instead we should support the colonization and integration of The United Kingdom of Britain by the GGR, as we are certain that the GGR will prove successful in establishing a stable and progressive society. Let us be the invisible hand instead the hammer in this conflict- the GGR itself was already condemned, thus we should concentrate on them, as a region itself, and not on The United Kingdom of Britain, which was lost before."


If we do not act properly by Liberating this region you're only encouraging others to continue theirs aggressive actions against other defenseless and innocent regions which does not not seem to be the proper course if you hope to modify their behavior of both this and other states to way more acceptable means of interacting with the international community that we try to preserve peace and freedom for the many regions that are part of the institution we use.

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United Senate
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Postby United Senate » Thu May 31, 2012 9:39 am

Take under consideration that The United Kingdom of Britain is imperialistic, too. Why should we support one regime to fight off the other, while risking the lives of good men? This wouldn't be the way I'd preserve peace. I'd rather, as stated above, support the GGR in colonizing the region- this way we'd be able to influence them more to our willing- like an invisible helping hand, rather than the hammer of an angry God of war. We already condemned the GGR, there is not much more that we responsibly could do.


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