[Draft] Repeal Condemn Lone Wolves United - Take 2

[Jamie Anumia]

The Security Council,

BELIEVING that the intentions behind the proposal were poor,

DISTURBED by the fact that the author of the resolution - Tim Opolis was asked and encouraged the write the resolution by the founder of the region being condemned, Evil Wolf.

REALIZING that the definition of griefing is so vague as to include all forms of raiding, including those which do not cause any long term damage to a region and do not deserve condemnation by the Security Council,

NOTING that the proposal contains many problems such as inaccuracies, unsubstantiated and without elaboration in regards to the mentions of other raids, many of which didn't extend to the definition of griefing and that the author - Tim-Opolis was aware of factual inaccuracies and other issues but still chose to go ahead with the proposal anyway,

COGNIZANT that the raid on Gardeshia and the actions entailed within it are grossly overstated, had factual inaccuracies and was included presumably to enable an easier passage of the condemnation,

FINDING that although griefs are mentioned, and griefing is defined, aside from one overstated mention no griefs are mentioned in this resolution and the condemnation is pn a whole based on one particular operation by Lone Wolves United.

BELIEVING that the Security Council should not be a place for the kind of proverbial back patting and that was demonstrated with the passing of this resolution,

HEREBY REPEALS Security Council Resolution #74 Condemn Lone Wolves United.

Co-author: Mahaj WA Seat

Just to state I've already discussed this with the previous author of this proposal.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Any evidence to your claims that much of the proposal is based on factual inaccuracies? You are basically claiming the entire proposal is made up/stretched information, which, unless you can back up with evidence, makes you just as bad as Tim supposedly was in writing the original condemnation.

[Mahaj WA Seat]

Any evidence to your claims that much of the proposal is based on factual inaccuracies? You are basically claiming the entire proposal is made up/stretched information, which, unless you can back up with evidence, makes you just as bad as Tim supposedly was in writing the original condemnation.

I was there... i've kept my story consistent the entire time... and people like Maroza and Separatist Peoples were involved... I'll see if I can get some testimony from them.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Any evidence to your claims that much of the proposal is based on factual inaccuracies? You are basically claiming the entire proposal is made up/stretched information, which, unless you can back up with evidence, makes you just as bad as Tim supposedly was in writing the original condemnation.

I was there... i've kept my story consistent the entire time... and people like Maroza and Separatist Peoples were involved... I'll see if I can get some testimony from them.

Provide links broseph.

[Mahaj]

I was there... i've kept my story consistent the entire time... and people like Maroza and Separatist Peoples were involved... I'll see if I can get some testimony from them.

Provide links broseph.

from the start i refuted the propaganda while some of that OP is true other parts of it are a considerable lie, including the 'facts' that

A) Natives were ejected
B) The native community was still in the region when refounded.

To provide further evidence, i'll state that one of RITN's 4 endorsements was provided via the nation Wahatan, which sent the following telegrams to me:

I thought that would be rather obvious by this point, a raid, and a new type of one at that. This is not some defenseless little founderless region, this is a full blown active founder region. They have all the defense they need right here, they are by no means weak and pathetic. This is a raid, Mahaj, not a griefing and I'm much appreciate it if you'd left.

I furthermore stated that I found out about this due to a thread made by RITN. this thread is here.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Mhmm mhmm, looks in order. Still against the proposal. EW is just far too cuddly to take away his badge.

[Reddevia II]

Unfortunately they just hit us.
A Warzone.

[Skyrim Diplomacy]

Unfortunately they just hit us.
A Warzone.

A joint effort led by Unknown. And in celebration of Codger's retirement. It was planned.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

The Lone Wolves United are the most condemnatory people I know. They KICK PUPPIES! And work with NAZIS! A repeal of this condemnation would be pro-animal abuse and anti-Semitic. DOWN with LWU! DOWN with this repeal!

[Tim-Opolis]

Obviously Against.

Especially when one of your reasons is that I was asked by Wolf to propose this.. Frankly. That's a load of shit. I wrote the proposal because I felt like LWU deserved a condemnation. Did Wolfie encourage it after it went into drafting. Obviously. It's his region that gets the swanky badge. But I was never asked to do it by Wolfie. It actually started from a chat in #udl where Connopolis and I were joking around about a Condemn LWU and I said something along the lines of "Challenge Accepted" and went in with a draft.

The intentions were poor? How so? What defines poor intentions.

[Cerian Quilor]

I support this repeal because raiders shouldn't see condemnations as badges of honor.

[The Great Destruction]

The Condemnation badge lets others know to watch out for them. Whether or not they see it as an honour is not the point. It serves a purpose for the rest of us.

[Cerian Quilor]

raiding in of itself is not worthy of condemnation. The SC is not a vehicle for one faction of NS to enforce an entirely innaccurate worldview.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

raiding in of itself is not worthy of condemnation. The SC is not a vehicle for one faction of NS to enforce an entirely innaccurate worldview.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it is!

[SunRawr]

I support this repeal because raiders shouldn't see condemnations as badges of honor.

Repealing it won't change that.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

I just realized my last post is ambiguous. I could have been saying raiding was, in itself, worthy of condemnation, or that the SC was a vehicle for one faction of NS to enforce an entirely inaccurate worldview.

I meant both.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I just realized my last post is ambiguous. I could have been saying raiding was, in itself, worthy of condemnation, or that the SC was a vehicle for one faction of NS to enforce an entirely inaccurate worldview.

I meant both.

How goes the progress on this draft to take away their badge?

[Jamie Anumia]

I just realized my last post is ambiguous. I could have been saying raiding was, in itself, worthy of condemnation, or that the SC was a vehicle for one faction of NS to enforce an entirely inaccurate worldview.

I meant both.

How goes the progress on this draft to take away their badge?

Nowhere, I'm dropping this.

[Cerian Quilor]

I support this repeal because raiders shouldn't see condemnations as badges of honor.

Repealing it won't change that.

Still should be repealed.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

Repealing it won't change that.

Still should be repealed.

Because...?

[Cerian Quilor]

Still should be repealed.

Because...?

for the sme reasons I already said.

It may not change the fact that Raiders view condemnations as a badge of honor, but that's quite beside the point.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

If your reason for repealing is that you don't like how raiders view condemnations, and repealing it isn't going to change that, then how is that still a reason to repeal? In other words, what would actually be the purpose of repealing?

[Improvised Laughter]

How goes the progress on this draft to take away their badge?

Nowhere, I'm dropping this.

^I'm going to point this out to people while cheering happily.

[Mahaj]

Looooooooks like maybe this could get another go.

[Jamie Anumia]

Looooooooks like maybe this could get another go.

^ I can confirm this. I'll likely submit it soon also. Since there were no suggestions last time.