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Mormon
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Orthodox
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Baptist
79
11%
Evangelical
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5%
Presbyterian
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3%
Lutheran
50
7%
Episcopal
23
3%
Society Of Friends (Quaker)
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3%
Other(Other denomination, not other religion, only other Christian denominations)
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Christian disscussion thread

Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Thats right a thread just for christians! Or other religions that want to comment. Yep a place to discuss the holy bible, the lord, churches, etc. I figured that since there are a lot of christians on NSG it would be a good time to start a christian thread, i am not christian myself but have been thinking about converting to lutheranism. On another note please no insults to christianity or christians, if you dont like christianity thats fine but please dont flame and troll in this thread.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:19 pm

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I'll pop in to post my eggs, which should be war-ready by Easter, a bit later, and thank you OP for starting the thread :D
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Postby Mollux » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:25 pm

Accepted Christ as my savior last year (I'm 25); God be praised!
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Postby Hahklallah » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:25 pm

I think the correct term for my Christian faith is Non-Denominational.

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Postby Jafas United » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:34 pm

Non-practising Lutheran here. OP, what made think of converting to Lutheranism? Good luck to you if you are.

And this is a perfect troll/flame thread. Just sayin'. ;)

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:36 pm

Jafas United wrote:Non-practising Lutheran here. OP, what made think of converting to Lutheranism? Good luck to you if you are.

And this is a perfect troll/flame thread. Just sayin'. ;)

Well i had been a muslim but i had been going to a lutheran church over here and that made me start thinking about converting to lutheranism. I might or might not decide to.
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Postby Bizan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:01 am

Shofercia wrote:I'll pop in to post my eggs, which should be war-ready by Easter.....

Ha ha ha ha ha..... That'll be interesting. Looking forward to that.

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Postby Hibernius » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:03 am

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I like the architecture. Also the community activities, like playgroups, that churches are always willing to support and develop. That said, although my family is nominaly Catholic, I, and my most immediate family, are athiests.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:06 am

I am a Mennonite.

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Postby Bizan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:07 am

I'm a more or less liberal Christian who finds himself comfortable with both the Anglican/Episcopal Church and the Orthodox Church.

Where the two differ, I tend to follow the Orthodox liturgically and the Episcopal politically.

I'd prefer to be able to ordain and elevate women, and I think the Anglicans are ahead there, although I admit that there is a tribe of very powerful deaconesses in most Orthodox Churches.

We can debate the "filioque" all the day long, but the bottom line is we should leave it out because it wasn't in the original Nicene or Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creeds.

I wish we could decide on a common date for Easter so that this most important of all Christian festivities, and the one we are most certain about insofar as the date calculations, could be celebrated by everyone at the same time.

I believe that the Bible is the single most important element of Holy Tradition, but I do not believe that all of Holy Tradition is in the Bible, and that too much of the Bible is too frequently taken out of context by evangelicals and fundamentalists who use it to oppress other people.
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Postby Tekania » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:08 am

I'm an odity.... liberal leaning Reformed Presbyterian.
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Postby Creestahlyia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:10 am

I wonder what does being christian means? is it following the teachings of Christ or is it subscribing to his cult and accepting him as my lord?

Because I truly admire the man and condemn the way he was treated but I don't recognize anyone or anything as my lord under that definition. But I do follow his teachings, he was quite an enlighten man.

So I am a Christian or not?


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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:13 am

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Postby Pope Joan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:14 am

Creestahlyia wrote:I wonder what does being christian means? is it following the teachings of Christ or is it subscribing to his cult and accepting him as my lord?

Because I truly admire the man and condemn the way he was treated but I don't recognize anyone or anything as my lord under that definition. But I do follow his teachings, he was quite an enlighten man.

So I am a Christian or not?


I have run into church doctrine and dogma which insists that being Christian means accepting the whole bible (killing women and babies and so on) and all church teachings.

I won't do that. Mennonites are satisfied with the Sermon on the Mount at the center, surrounded by the Gospels, with the letter of James for pragmatic advice. To us, these authorities help us stay as close as we can to the man who was and is God.
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:14 am

Creestahlyia wrote:I wonder what does being christian means? is it following the teachings of Christ or is it subscribing to his cult and accepting him as my lord?

Because I truly admire the man and condemn the way he was treated but I don't recognize anyone or anything as my lord under that definition. But I do follow his teachings, he was quite an enlighten man.

So I am a Christian or not?


Atheist Christian is a way to put it, I guess. It's like Buddhism, but putting Christ and His teachings in place of Buddha and his teachings.

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Postby The Pretend Pub » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:19 am

Creestahliya: Christianity is simply following the teachings of the Christ. The cult of Jesus (who was not the Christ) and Jehovah is a wholesale rejection of the actual teachings of the Christ perpetuated by the Paulinists, because they fail to recognize the truth of the metaphorical divinity of the Christ's teachings and so insist upon the myth of the literal divinity of Jesus's (whom they falsely claim was himself the Christ) person.
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Postby Bizan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:20 am

Creestahlyia wrote:I wonder what does being christian means? is it following the teachings of Christ or is it subscribing to his cult and accepting him as my lord?

Because I truly admire the man and condemn the way he was treated but I don't recognize anyone or anything as my lord under that definition. But I do follow his teachings, he was quite an enlighten man.

So I am a Christian or not?

The way that the Christians defined Christianity in the original Councils, no, you are not a Christian.

To be a "Christian" (according to them), you would have to believe:

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all time, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;


It is part of the basic philosophy of Christianity that at the origin of things, the Uncreated, because the Uncreated exists in all time at the same time, already knew/knows that Creation would have to be saved by the Uncreated's becoming a part of it. In a way, Christ is an allegorical representation of this, that the Uncreated becomes (but already is and was) a part of Creation, and faces the ending (the death of hell) the same way that Creation faces it, and it is through the union with the Uncreated that we defeat time, and defeat our endings.

But while saying that Christ is an allegorical representation of this, we still truly believe literally that Christ is fully God and fully Man, fully Created and Uncreated at the same time.

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Postby Kleomentia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:21 am

A not-so-religious- Orthodox Christian or as i like to call it a i-just-don't-give-a-fuck Orthodox Christian ;)
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Postby The Pretend Pub » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:21 am

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Postby Bizan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:21 am

The Pretend Pub wrote:Creestahliya: Christianity is simply following the teachings of the Christ. The cult of Jesus (who was not the Christ) and Jehovah is a wholesale rejection of the actual teachings of the Christ perpetuated by the Paulinists, because they fail to recognize the truth of the metaphorical divinity of the Christ's teachings and so insist upon the myth of the literal divinity of Jesus's (whom they falsely claim was himself the Christ) person.

Although I disagree with what you have literally said, I see you as a companion in faith, and I have to say that I think you are on the right track.

:-)

Not that I can pretend to be worth that opinion, but there it is.

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Postby Creestahlyia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:28 am

Bizan wrote:
Creestahlyia wrote:I wonder what does being christian means? is it following the teachings of Christ or is it subscribing to his cult and accepting him as my lord?

Because I truly admire the man and condemn the way he was treated but I don't recognize anyone or anything as my lord under that definition. But I do follow his teachings, he was quite an enlighten man.

So I am a Christian or not?

The way that the Christians defined Christianity in the original Councils, no, you are not a Christian.

To be a "Christian" (according to them), you would have to believe:

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all time, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;


It is part of the basic philosophy of Christianity that at the origin of things, the Uncreated, because the Uncreated exists in all time at the same time, already knew/knows that Creation would have to be saved by the Uncreated's becoming a part of it. In a way, Christ is an allegorical representation of this, that the Uncreated becomes (but already is and was) a part of Creation, and faces the ending (the death of hell) the same way that Creation faces it, and it is through the union with the Uncreated that we defeat time, and defeat our endings.

But while saying that Christ is an allegorical representation of this, we still truly believe literally that Christ is fully God and fully Man, fully Created and Uncreated at the same time.


But you know, I figure you believe in a benevolent all powerful God, and although I do not pretend to question your tenants, I can't help thinking why would he consider it more important that people subscribe to Jesus' religion and accept him as their savior, than for people to actually follow Jesus' teachings? Why do I have to accept Jesus as my lord? I already admit that I like the man and that I follow his teachings and that I condemn what they did to him? I don't really see what's his point, Is he trying to lower our self-pride by saying that we aren't entirely fulfilled until we accept a him and his son as our superiors?
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