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Postby Seculartopia » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:18 pm

Does your nation have income equality (Everyone tends to earn the same salary)

Seculartopia has a considerable amount of income equality through wage guarantees and tax credits.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:32 pm

The simple rule in the GWO is this...

You make what you earn. If you're a low-level employee, you won't make nearly as much as the CEO of Emorden-Geist Weapons Manufacturing Corporation.
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Postby Free Commonalities » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:05 pm

Our social welfare is not so much aimed at giving cash but guarantees of minimal housing, education, an amount of free culture, and food. One of our mottos is "You get what you put into it." The main emphasis is making sure those who want to advance beyond basic needs in education and business can make the attempt. Backed with a disciplined two year military service, the social contract expects you to put something into it.
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Postby Greater Americania » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:09 pm

Due to laws protecting the workers, the incomes of the respective classes are much closer than they would be under a Capitalist regime. This is helped by the high minimum wage, regulations on businesses, social welfare, etc.

However all able-bodied nationals and legal residents are expected to work. Abuse of the welfare system is something the government cracks down on.
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Postby Kekhistan and Altius » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:13 pm

The income gap differs between the 2 main islands. Altius, being the technological center, has a slightly higher average income. In the Commonwealth, it is expected that you work for your money. If you are disabled we will provide what you need, however this is for those who are physically and mentally unable to work. Those who refuse to work will receive no aid from the government whatsoever. Students in college are given money to live on through their financial aid. The minimum someone has to go to school for this income aid is 2 credit hours/wk.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:35 pm

Income Equality? In CM? *Snip a few hours of laughter*

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Postby -Bretonia- » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:06 pm

There is a large degree of income disparity in Bretonia, with the upper classes earning anywhere between several hundred thousand credits per year to billions, and the lower classes earning only a few thousand credits per year. There is clearly no intention on the part of the Bretonian government to interfere with the status quo, either, as they have a flat-rate income tax scheme in effect, and the only government benefits available are of a contribution-based nature.

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Postby Beth Gellert » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:25 pm

"Beth Gellert is ranked 1st in the region and 103rd in the world for Most Income Equality."

But no, the Commonwealth does not practice wage equalisation and does not endorse the pre-Marxian Communism of levelling-down.

However, regarding itself as one of the only genuine Communist societies in the world, the Commonwealth houses its citizens communally in Pantisocratic Phalansteries.

Here, children are educated communally, and citizens sleep in dormatories, eat in dining halls where they enjoy food cooked in community kitchens by a combination of professional chefs and volunteers or all citizens on a rotation using many ingredients produced on community land by other volunteers and the same citizens on rotation.

Most paid work, meanwhile, is carried out in job-sharing arrangements on Soviet Enterprises within the commune, which are provided with state-owned capital on which they pay a Fixed Value Tax, after covering which they share profits based on a range of democratically agreed-upon factors typically including hours worked, complexity or difficulty of task, and seniority. Citizens with particular specialist experience or higher education (which is subsidised by the state) can often achieve higher shares in exchange for their participation in a particular Soviet Enterprise.

There is also a more conventional state sector providing key services in which typically there is not more than a four to one discrepancy in wages between entry-level and senior state employees.

With all basic needs provided for, higher profit shares or state wages stand partly to indicate what an admirable Socialist worker a citizen is, but also allow a slightly more luxuriant lifestyle and in some cases private quarters within the commune.
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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:52 pm

Income equality...


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Postby Fatatatutti » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:37 pm

'Income' isn't considered a measure of anything important in Fatatatutti. Some people willingly work shorter hours, earning less, so that they can spend more time with their families, or with their hobbies or doing charity work. Some people work longer hours or work two jobs to earn more to buy a bigger house or a car. Our social welfare system ensures that nobody goes hungry, so each person is free to choose his or her own priorites, whether it's earning more 'income' or enjoying their lives in other ways.

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Postby Maraque » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:35 pm

Maraqueans do not obsess over how much money they make, as long as it covers their most basic needs such as food, clothing, and housing. Anything else is simply a secondary non-essential. Maraqueans are fiercely fiscally conservative and will only splurge on Giving Day (basically a secular Christmas). Couple that with the fact that Maraqueans do not believe in paying for something unless you have the funds available right then and there, and you have a healthy and wealthy citizenry.

The average Maraquean earns $84,000 (NSTracker), and it sufficiently covers everything, but given the average citizens high wage, items tend to be more expensive than in other countries. Heads' of national corporations don't get paid in the millions; the highest paid head of a national corporation in the Kingdom currently makes "just" $504,000, as usually anything more than three quarters of a million is seen as obsessive and unwarranted.

Add to this the high social welfare programs, and even our lowest paid workers make a living that is said to be that of a normal, middle class citizen in a typical Western nation.

Income equality: High.

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Postby Dekerin Domains » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:40 pm

Dekerins don't tend to worry about such strange concepts as "income equality" per se. We're a rather hierarchical society and having only just gotten around to ending slavery. However, we are making reforms toward a meritocracy. Merit rather than equality is the guiding principle of the revolution's economic and social policies. Justice is more about merit than about equality. After all, not everyone behaves the same, so not everyone deserves the same.
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Postby Meciene » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:43 pm

No income equality is enforced in Meciene. The quality of work that the person does determines his/her pay.

So if you're a rookie, you can't earn as much as a senior unless you do even better (that usually results in promotion).
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Postby Cameroi » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:54 pm

all incomes being effectively zero, all incomes are effectively equal.

of course life is not actually entirely that simple. but almost.

people are allowed, encouraged, and provided gratus, with the means to build for themselves pretty much whatever they might wish.

some zoning restrictions may apply.
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Postby Rejistania » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:16 am

Income equality? In the 'tani? Not really! You earn as much or as little as the mijit'tan linux (free market) thinks you should. Minimum wage laws do not exist, neither does taxation on income.
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Postby Allbeama » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:26 am

Equality is essential in this the Benevolent Social Republic of Allbeama. We maintain programs that allow for the greatest well-being and general happiness of the whole populace, or technically closer to the greatest possible number of the populace, because greedy businessmen aren't generally too happy that they live like everyone else rather than like kings and gods among men.
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Postby Swilatia » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:03 am

Income equality usually means every-one is poor. With that said, we don't have it and don't need it.
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Postby Iglesian Archipelago » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:41 am

Swilatia wrote:Income equality usually means every-one is poor. With that said, we don't have it and don't need it.

People in the Iglesian Archipelago are equally treated, so, there's large income quality. But as this comes from a very developed country, so our country is extremely high-income. There are no slums and the minimum wage is =S=1000 per month (approx. =S=33 - approx. 58,41 USD - a day), or 1770 USD. I know, very unrealistic, but we recognise that the poorest people are also people and take part of our society, and they deserve to live.
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:45 am

Seculartopia wrote:Does your nation have income equality (Everyone tends to earn the same salary)

Seculartopia has a considerable amount of income equality through wage guarantees and tax credits.


We are proud of our income inequality. It means that people actually get what they earn through their efforts.

We are also proud that, over time, not only the rich get richer, but the poor get richer too.
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Postby Eurynomia » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:55 am

Eurynomia was 4th in the region and 713th (or so) in the world in terms of income equality. All are equal.

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Postby New Olwe » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:00 am

New Olwe is ranked 2nd in our region and 107th in the world for most income equality, something we take great pride in since we are primarily socialist in our economic views. That being said, there is a clearly defined "upper class" -- people who make more than 120,000 guilders a year. They're an extreme minority, but they exist.
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Postby History land » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:12 am

Ha income equality in History Land there is a divde. But every day the lower class get`s smaller why. Because they actually go to work not wait at home for some Welfare check. But income equality is not a concept the goverment accepts everybody earns money. So it does it matter how much a CEO earns.

Your payed by your expernice and abllity. Also your work effort so it doesen`t matter how much the rich are earning and how much the common worker owns. They are still payed by thier abllity and work effort
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Postby Goias » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:04 am

There isn't much income disparity in Goias due to a combination of history and the extensive welfare state. We don't have many super-rich, multi-millionaire type people though - the richest tend to level out somewhere around sums that would be considered pretty ordinary (between 5-10 million rajes).

Goias used to have divisions of multi-national corporations, but they've all pretty much fled due to a combination of increased taxes, environmental regulations and various scandals (pollution, tax fraud, the likes). Instead, there's been a boom in small- and medium-sized businesses, thanks to a new policy of allowing such businesses one year without taxes since their official founding/incorporation.
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Postby Nilpnt » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:14 am

Ya there is no true "income" for people in my nation. It's a delicate situation. There is a currency (The Lucia) however in itself it is almost of no value. Let me explain some thing first:

1. There are no buisness or land owners, every person lives in an apartment in a city and works at a job given to them by the goverment. You are free to move between cities, apartments and jobs but there is no other type of housing. (Every person lives in a city, and every city is walled.)
2. There is no debt or credit. You are given free housing and free utilities for life, so long as you remain working (No job means no home). This is what is considered "Life for Labour" (You work for free you live for free).
3. The goverment controls all currency (The nation was origionally designed as a no money state but thats to problematic). Every buisness is owned by and every person works and pays taxes to the goverment which recieves massive amounts of profits. People recieve small amounts of money for food (Which is also goverment subsidized), entertainment, and commodities to help keep the flow of goods moving (And prevent a Barter-economy) but they never recieve any true income.

In the end all the money comes back to the goverment which, because of this, has an unlimited spending power within the nation. Outside of the nation it has almost no involvement in the world economy and no real foriegn economic influence.

All purchases are done through the goverment and all money involved in these purchases is collected as tax. I guess you could say the goverment constantly buys from and pays itself. At any time only a small amount (Less than 5%) of the total currency is in the peoples posession and it always makes itsway back into goverment accounts (Almost all transactions are electronic).

The result of this is an extremely wealthy goverment that regulates down to an inch social equality, as well as many other things.
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Postby NS Gleeson » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:41 am

The Grand World Order wrote:The simple rule in the GWO is this...

You make what you earn. If you're a low-level employee, you won't make nearly as much as the CEO of Emorden-Geist Weapons Manufacturing Corporation.


Effectively the system in Gleeson. If you want to make a living, you must work at it. Expecting others to support you, when you are perfectly able to support yourself, is seen as being despicable.

Now, if you legitimately need help there are ways to get it, but most have literally no connections with the state.
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