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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Islam"

Postby Jeux II » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:16 pm

The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING the nations of Justice4Islam, The Kaaba, and Iron bark as having been under the control of raider nation and former delegate of NAZI EUROPE, "Oh My Days," when they were used to pass this resolution,

NOTING that the actions of Oh my days corrupted the good intentions of the nations which passed the liberation, which supposedly sought to protect it from foreign forces that threatened the region members' rights as an independent community,

BELIEVING that, if Islam is to be truly “liberated” from all threats to its security and is to build a stable and legitimate community, the region must have the capability to lock itself down and refound to attain a new, “native” founder nation and to free itself from its inactive founder nation which was controlled and subsequently (and deliberately) eliminated by Oh My Days,

THANKFUL that Oh My Days did not claim the region in the name of NAZI EUROPE when the region was refounded, though noting that, if Oh My Days was to restore the nation which refounded Islam and take control of it once again, Oh My Days could demolish the region entirely or use it for the nation’s own agenda,

AWARE that members of the region have unsuccessfully attempted to repeal this liberation in the past and seeking to achieve for them what they wanted but were unable to attain,

HEREBY REPEALS “Liberate Islam.”

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Postby Jeux II » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:18 pm

I did this in a little of a hurry, but feed back would be very nice. Thank you.
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Postby Warzone Codger » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:33 pm

I'll like evidence of a persistent, identifiable native community there first. All I see for months is a squabbling rabble, which any upstart either torn down by infighting or burns out into inactivity faster than a firefly.
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Postby Jeux II » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:38 pm

We are not just talking about the current community but all that have come and gone within the time of the resolution.
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Tag. I'll have plenty of input tomorrow.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Jeux II » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:47 pm

Noted.
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:28 am

Do the residents of Islam want this repeal?
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:24 am

It was then that we learned that AMOM is none other than Oh My Days, and this is a massive conspiracy to conquer Islam.
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:26 am

Cinistra wrote:Do the residents of Islam want this repeal?

Did the residents of Islam really want it in the first place?
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:56 am

Mahaj wrote:
Cinistra wrote:Do the residents of Islam want this repeal?

Did the residents of Islam really want it in the first place?

The liberation? Didn't they?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Jeux II » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:14 pm

Cinistra wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Did the residents of Islam really want it in the first place?

The liberation? Didn't they?

No. It seemed more of just the nations that OMD controlled within Islam that wanted the liberation when reading over the TGs.
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:26 pm

Jeux II wrote:
Cinistra wrote:The liberation? Didn't they?

No. It seemed more of just the nations that OMD controlled within Islam that wanted the liberation when reading over the TGs.

I see. Do they want that liberation repealed now, then?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Jeux II » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 pm

I have been trying to contact the delegate, but given all the facts of why the liberation was placed there in the first place I don't see why not. Plus, most of the active communities that have come and gone in Islam all have ended up wanting the resolution repealed anyway.
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:53 pm

The repeal would have got more weight if we could got a statement from the residents, either by TGs to the author, or statements here on the forums.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Jeux II » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:40 am

I'm waiting on a reply if it ever comes.
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Postby Faith of the Five » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:33 pm

Having resided in Islam for a long time I would point out that as the current administration has not been in place long and as has been amply pointed out the lengths nations will go to in order to cause grief to the region it is my opinion that should the liberation be repealed at this point it will only enable the region to be purged of any natives that remain.
I would suggest a waiting period of 3-6 months at least to see if the region can gain any stability.
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Postby Cinistra » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:06 pm

Interesting. We can take that as a "No", then?
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby A mean old man » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:49 pm

I've edited part of this, I'll finish it by tomorrow.

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Last edited by A mean old man on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby -Carta- » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:07 pm

I'm for this.

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Postby Eist » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:49 pm

Cinistra wrote:Do the residents of Islam want this repeal?


Hahaha. The residents (by which I mean someone that could call the region "home" - natives) got up and left a long time ago due to the constant stream of invasions that embroiled the region. There are no residents of that region as invaders effectively killed them off.

AGAINST. This will only further reduce security in the region. With it now not being easy pickings as one of the last largish founderless regions, there is little need for the removal of the liberation resolution to proceed. Further, the fact that no natives have been consulted on this (because there are no natives) is a sure sign that this should not be contemplated.
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Postby Jeux II » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:03 pm

Eist wrote:
Cinistra wrote:Do the residents of Islam want this repeal?


Hahaha. The residents (by which I mean someone that could call the region "home" - natives) got up and left a long time ago due to the constant stream of invasions that embroiled the region. There are no residents of that region as invaders effectively killed them off.

AGAINST. This will only further reduce security in the region. With it now not being easy pickings as one of the last largish founderless regions, there is little need for the removal of the liberation resolution to proceed. Further, the fact that no natives have been consulted on this (because there are no natives) is a sure sign that this should not be contemplated.


By your logic, there shouldn't be a liberation there in the first place if there is nothing to protect. And besides, you are messing the main point of the proposal. The resolution needs to be repealed because of the problems within it. If a new liberation of the region is needed, then a new one will be written but on better terms and the right mind set instead of the ill hearted way the first one was written just to hand the region over to OMD.
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Postby A mean old man » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:45 pm

Changed a number of wordings, removed some redundant clauses, removed some R4 violations.

The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING the nations of Justice4Islam, The Kaaba, and Iron bark as having been under the control of raider nation and former delegate of NAZI EUROPE, "Oh My Days," when they were used to pass this resolution,

NOTING that the actions of Oh my days corrupted the good intentions of the nations which passed the liberation, which supposedly sought to protect it from foreign forces that threatened the region members' rights as an independent community,

BELIEVING that, if Islam is to be truly “liberated” from all threats to its security and is to build a stable and legitimate community, the region must have the capability to lock itself down and refound to attain a new, “native” founder nation and to free itself from its inactive founder nation which was controlled and subsequently (and deliberately) eliminated by Oh My Days,

THANKFUL that Oh My Days did not claim the region in the name of NAZI EUROPE when the region was refounded, though noting that, if Oh My Days was to restore the nation which refounded Islam and take control of it once again, Oh My Days could demolish the region entirely or use it for the nation’s own agenda,

AWARE that members of the region have unsuccessfully attempted to repeal this liberation in the past and seeking to achieve for them what they wanted but were unable to attain,

HEREBY REPEALS “Liberate Islam.”

Co-authored by A mean old man
Last edited by A mean old man on Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Jeux II » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:28 pm

Very very nice Amom!
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Postby Jeux II » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:38 pm

I will be submitting this as soon as tomorrow afternoon.
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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:42 pm

I have yet to see any natives or residence of Islam wanting this. You seem to be disregarding that fact.
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