Worst Pokemon generation?

[Dungeyland]

What do you think is the worst Pokemon generation?

I think it is the 4th. It was just so bland and boring. I mean, the first generation started it all, the second was an evolutionary leap that added loads to the game, the third added things like double battles and EV/IV points. The fourth added, or should I say re-added, the clock. Oh, and Sinnoh, the dullest region there is.

Hoenn was so exciting, and so is Unova. Black and White may not have the best Pokemon (although there are some greats in there), but it has without a doubt the best plot, and most new and awesome changes from the previous generations. Even Gen III, which didn't add that much in retrospect, added freaking colour (proper colour, not crappy GBC colour.)

So, in conclusion, I think that the worst Pokemon generation was the fourth.

(To be clear, I loved HG/SS, but that's a reflection of my love for the second gen)

[Forster Keys]

Baby boomers. They never really got into it.

[Encyclopaedic Ignorance]

I don't like the 3rd gen. Found Hoenn boring as a region, dull story and didn't like the new pokes.

Earlier gens had the nostalgia thing, fourth gen was solid, five has crap pokes but great graphics and a good story.

[Chinese Regions]

I don't like the 3rd gen. Found Hoenn boring as a region, dull story and didn't like the new pokes.

Earlier gens had the nostalgia thing, fourth gen was solid, five has crap pokes but great graphics and a good story.

My first Pokémon games were Ruby and Emerald.
The the remakes HG/SS were the best games imo.

[Oterro]

The last one I played was Diamond & Pearl and it put me off continuing.

[San-Silvacian]

1st and 2nd were good, but after a while they ran out of creativity...

[Tim-Opolis]

Johto was great
Kanto was great
Hoenn was decent

Sinnoh..... Sinnoh killed Pokemon for me.... The new pokemon sort of sucked...

Then whatever thing is in Black and White I can't stand. After Pokemon went to the DS it sort of died. The only decent thing for it there is HG and SS

[TaQud]

1St 3 generations were great. 4th was going a little too far. 5th has gone too far.

Heatran a legendary? Really?

[Radiatia]

I stopped after Crystal. Anything after that doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.

[AETEN II]

Technically speaking, all of the games are retarded as it is a moderately complicated equation.

Though memory wise, 1, 2, and 3 were the best, 2nd was awesome because you could go to Kanto. The 4th sucked, as to me it was a gimmick to get a DS, which I didn't want because they were no good games for it and I moved onto a PSP as a handheld gaming device. From what I've seen, the fifth is an abomination that should be shot and put out of its misery. 3rd was pretty cool though, as I really liked some of the Pokemon designs, especially the Treeko evolutions and Mudkip was original as well. Bloomish, or whatever it was called, should be wiped from all memory.

[Azrael]

OH GOD THE 4TH

[TaQud]

Pokemon

[Azrael]

OH GOD THE 4TH

The moment I saw the title of this thread I just had to let it be known that I absolutely hate the 4th generation. Now that I've taken the time to list my true opinions on the fourth gen, here are my complaints:

1. SO MANY CROSS-GEN EVOLUTIONS - Gen IV introduced 107 pokemon, 28 of which were evolutions or pre-evolutions of existing pokemon, more than a quarter of the pokemon they introduced. No other generation introduced that many - Gen II (which introduced baby pokemon and non-Eevee branch evolutions) had the second most, with 18. Most of these 28 evolutions/pre-evolutions were pretty pointless, like Magnezone or Frosslass.

2. OVERALL POKEMON DESIGNS - If the lack of creativity displayed by having more than 25% of your pokemon be related to previous ones, Gen IV has some of the most bland and stupid pokemon designs. It's quite disappointing that some old favorites like Electabuzz, Magmar, Magneton, Lickitung, and Tangela evolving into Electivire, Magmortar, Magnezone, Lickilicky, and Tangrowth respectively. And then we've got Nosepass, who evolves into the even worse-looking Probopass. The new pokemon families were also pretty disappointing (the Stunky, Bidoof, Burmy, Combee, and Bronzor families were all bad).

3. THE LEGENDARIES - Gen IV introduced THIRTEEN, more than any other. As taken from Bulbapedia,

Many of the legendary Pokémon of this generation have little connection to the plot of the games, instead being minor, post-League sidequests for the player to go on.

Not to mention that many of these legendaries were pretty pointless, like Heatran, Manaphy and Phione, Cresselia, and the entire Lake Guardian Trio (all three pokemon are Psychic and relatively weak). Arceus was pretty cool, but introducing something that was essentially the god of all pokemon too early on in the series defeated the feeling of the games.

The only real redeeming factor that the Fourth Generation has is HG/SS, which are arguably the best games in the series, but this is mainly because they're based off of Gen II, my favorite generation since my first Pokemon game was Gold Version. I felt that HG/SS took the best from G/S/C and added some improvements. However, I really dislike how forced the plot felt (just like with the rest of Gen IV) and that the original plot from G/S was perfectly fine and made the game easy to enjoy.

Well, that's my Gen IV rant. I just wanted to put this on the interwebs, even if it does seem like overreacting in response to this thread.

[Dungeyland]

OH GOD THE 4TH

The moment I saw the title of this thread I just had to let it be known that I absolutely hate the 4th generation. Now that I've taken the time to list my true opinions on the fourth gen, here are my complaints:

1. SO MANY CROSS-GEN EVOLUTIONS - Gen IV introduced 107 pokemon, 28 of which were evolutions or pre-evolutions of existing pokemon, more than a quarter of the pokemon they introduced. No other generation introduced that many - Gen II (which introduced baby pokemon and non-Eevee branch evolutions) had the second most, with 18. Most of these 28 evolutions/pre-evolutions were pretty pointless, like Magnezone or Frosslass.

2. OVERALL POKEMON DESIGNS - If the lack of creativity displayed by having more than 25% of your pokemon be related to previous ones, Gen IV has some of the most bland and stupid pokemon designs. It's quite disappointing that some old favorites like Electabuzz, Magmar, Magneton, Lickitung, and Tangela evolving into Electivire, Magmortar, Magnezone, Lickilicky, and Tangrowth respectively. And then we've got Nosepass, who evolves into the even worse-looking Probopass. The new pokemon families were also pretty disappointing (the Stunky, Bidoof, Burmy, Combee, and Bronzor families were all bad).

3. THE LEGENDARIES - Gen IV introduced THIRTEEN, more than any other. As taken from Bulbapedia,

Many of the legendary Pokémon of this generation have little connection to the plot of the games, instead being minor, post-League sidequests for the player to go on.

Not to mention that many of these legendaries were pretty pointless, like Heatran, Manaphy and Phione, Cresselia, and the entire Lake Guardian Trio (all three pokemon are Psychic and relatively weak). Arceus was pretty cool, but introducing something that was essentially the god of all pokemon too early on in the series defeated the feeling of the games.

The only real redeeming factor that the Fourth Generation has is HG/SS, which are arguably the best games in the series, but this is mainly because they're based off of Gen II, my favorite generation since my first Pokemon game was Gold Version. I felt that HG/SS took the best from G/S/C and added some improvements. However, I really dislike how forced the plot felt (just like with the rest of Gen IV) and that the original plot from G/S was perfectly fine and made the game easy to enjoy.

Well, that's my Gen IV rant. I just wanted to put this on the interwebs, even if it does seem like overreacting in response to this thread.

Ditto, but I just cannot see why people don't like the fifth. The pokemon were original, and with the exception of Trubbish, creative. They were completely fresh, and thankfully there were no Zubats or Abras - players couldn't just rely on the tried and tested Alakazam, and the other strong multi use pokemons. You had to find great new ones.

And the plot, was so good, and the graphics! First play, I vomited rainbows.

Side note, yes, I think Black & White were the best games. Well, I think Black and White 2 will be the best games. And the R/S remakes. And the 6th gen. With the 5th gen, Game Freak redeemed itself from the cornucopia of awful that was Diamond/Pearl.

[Azrael]

The moment I saw the title of this thread I just had to let it be known that I absolutely hate the 4th generation. Now that I've taken the time to list my true opinions on the fourth gen, here are my complaints:

1. SO MANY CROSS-GEN EVOLUTIONS - Gen IV introduced 107 pokemon, 28 of which were evolutions or pre-evolutions of existing pokemon, more than a quarter of the pokemon they introduced. No other generation introduced that many - Gen II (which introduced baby pokemon and non-Eevee branch evolutions) had the second most, with 18. Most of these 28 evolutions/pre-evolutions were pretty pointless, like Magnezone or Frosslass.

2. OVERALL POKEMON DESIGNS - If the lack of creativity displayed by having more than 25% of your pokemon be related to previous ones, Gen IV has some of the most bland and stupid pokemon designs. It's quite disappointing that some old favorites like Electabuzz, Magmar, Magneton, Lickitung, and Tangela evolving into Electivire, Magmortar, Magnezone, Lickilicky, and Tangrowth respectively. And then we've got Nosepass, who evolves into the even worse-looking Probopass. The new pokemon families were also pretty disappointing (the Stunky, Bidoof, Burmy, Combee, and Bronzor families were all bad).

3. THE LEGENDARIES - Gen IV introduced THIRTEEN, more than any other. As taken from Bulbapedia,
Not to mention that many of these legendaries were pretty pointless, like Heatran, Manaphy and Phione, Cresselia, and the entire Lake Guardian Trio (all three pokemon are Psychic and relatively weak). Arceus was pretty cool, but introducing something that was essentially the god of all pokemon too early on in the series defeated the feeling of the games.

The only real redeeming factor that the Fourth Generation has is HG/SS, which are arguably the best games in the series, but this is mainly because they're based off of Gen II, my favorite generation since my first Pokemon game was Gold Version. I felt that HG/SS took the best from G/S/C and added some improvements. However, I really dislike how forced the plot felt (just like with the rest of Gen IV) and that the original plot from G/S was perfectly fine and made the game easy to enjoy.

Well, that's my Gen IV rant. I just wanted to put this on the interwebs, even if it does seem like overreacting in response to this thread.

Ditto, but I just cannot see why people don't like the fifth. The pokemon were original, and with the exception of Trubbish, creative. They were completely fresh, and thankfully there were no Zubats or Abras - players couldn't just rely on the tried and tested Alakazam, and the other strong multi use pokemons. You had to find great new ones.

And the plot, was so good, and the graphics! First play, I vomited rainbows.

Side note, yes, I think Black & White were the best games. Well, I think Black and White 2 will be the best games. And the R/S remakes. And the 6th gen. With the 5th gen, Game Freak redeemed itself from the cornucopia of awful that was Diamond/Pearl.

Yeah, I think Gen V gets undeserved hate. And whoa, this is the first time I've ever heard of B&W 2. Hmm... better go check that out.
...
WHOA! What is up with the Reshiram/Kyurem and Zekrom/Kyurem fusions?!? Is this like some sort of extension to B&W? Oh man, I'm excited already!

Anyway, I agree with most of what you just said there. I like Gen V, but not as much as I like Gen II. And then IV is by far the worst.

[Meowfoundland]

The storyline of the 5th generation makes me uncomfortable and the 4th generation seemed like it was trying way too hard to educate me on energy sources. My favourite is the 2nd, although I haven't played the remakes.

[Manahakatouki]

My first video game was Pokemon Red...

I loved it...

Kinda skipped over the second generation as my N64 had me hooked from all other video games for a while...

Got a Gameboy Advanced and loved Pokemon Ruby...Perhaps it wasn't the best of the original three, but I spent countless hours on the same profile, and never have I started over with that one...(I just play my brother's Sapphire if I want to do that...)

Then I started Pokemon Gold a little while ago...It's probably one of the best ones to be honest...Really loved the pokemon that came with it and all...

But after third generation I never even played them...

Probably a good thing from all the negative feedback I'm hearing...

[Yufouria]

1St 3 generations were great. 4th was going a little too far. 5th has gone too far.

Heatran a legendary? Really?

What's wrong with Heatran being legendary? It's a solid OU Pokemon, which is more than you can say for some legendaries (cough Cresselia). Is this a canon/anime thing?

The storyline of the 5th generation makes me uncomfortable and the 4th generation seemed like it was trying way too hard to educate me on energy sources. My favourite is the 2nd, although I haven't played the remakes.

I don't know, I think that's a good thing. I liked that Pokemon decided to "grow up" a little bit with their original fans with a storyline that's a teensy bit more mature without becoming inacessible to new kids coming into the franchise. My main complaint about the storyline is that Team Plasma's ideals were interesting in the beginning, then quickly degraded into strawman territory. (We want to protect Pokemon but we have to enslave them to do it! Haha, just kidding, we really want power for ourselves!) I like to think it would have been possible to be a little more nuanced than that without making younger players think that they're abusing their Pokemon.

I haven't really hated any of the Pokemon games I've played. I guess I pick BW, just because the Pokemon Musicals were kind of disappointing and the Vanillish line made me feel deeply embarrassed on behalf of the designers.

[Saurisisia]

My first and only Pokemon game was Gold which I had for the GBA. And haven't played in years.

In retrospect, maybe it's a good thing I didn't get any new games since.

[New Amerik]

Whatever the latest generation is. Doesn't matter which one it is, it's always the latest.

Ditto, but I just cannot see why people don't like the fifth. The pokemon were original, and with the exception of Trubbish, creative. They were completely fresh, and thankfully there were no Zubats or Abras - players couldn't just rely on the tried and tested Alakazam, and the other strong multi use pokemons. You had to find great new ones.

Aw...

Why hate on the Trubbish, eh? When you've got magnets and balls and shadows and eggs and rats and mimes being turned into Pokemon, why not a garbage bag too? I mean, it's a reference to the Grimer/Muk line with the whole 1st/5th generation connection as well!

[Parhe]

For the most part it is a tie between the third and fourth. However, I voted the third generation because my all time favorite Pokemon game(after Pokemon Snap) was, despite the stupid name, Pokemon Heart Gold, which technically is a fourth generation Pokemon game.* At the same time, I feel that the remakes Green and Red were not as interesting, especially since a big part of the appeal of the originals to me as a six/seven year old were the many bugs and glitches. I understand they would't program glitches into a game purposely, but still, it was one of the biggest things I remember from the original games. The fifth generation I say would have some of the "worst" Pokemon ties with the third generation, in my opinion. But what I did like about the fifth generation was the more challenging Pokemon gym puzzles, what seems to be more character and an overall better story line, compared to the others. Only thing i really have to say about the second generation is that it was pretty good, I loved how you could travel BACK to Kanto(I live for the day when a Pokemon game allows you to travel to every region) and the Pokemon it introduced which, though very small in number, the best visual-wise, in my view.

*Now that i think about it, Generation Four might be my favorite, or at least tied with the first, because of Pokemon SoulSilver and HeartGold.

[Parhe]

Whatever the latest generation is. Doesn't matter which one it is, it's always the latest.

Ditto, but I just cannot see why people don't like the fifth. The pokemon were original, and with the exception of Trubbish, creative. They were completely fresh, and thankfully there were no Zubats or Abras - players couldn't just rely on the tried and tested Alakazam, and the other strong multi use pokemons. You had to find great new ones.

Aw...

Why hate on the Trubbish, eh? When you've got magnets and balls and shadows and eggs and rats and mimes being turned into Pokemon, why not a garbage bag too? I mean, it's a reference to the Grimer/Muk line with the whole 1st/5th generation connection as well!

I hate the way they make Pokemon out of man-made objects like candles, magnets, trash, dolls and so forth.
I don't care what generation, I dislike it except for a few exceptions.

[Gallade]

4th. Mainly because it turns me into the "back in my day" kinda person. Though it did bring about some nice changes (I love the pokeathlon), the original pokemon gold is still king.

[TaQud]

1St 3 generations were great. 4th was going a little too far. 5th has gone too far.

Heatran a legendary? Really?

What's wrong with Heatran being legendary? It's a solid OU Pokemon, which is more than you can say for some legendaries (cough Cresselia). Is this a canon/anime thing?

The storyline of the 5th generation makes me uncomfortable and the 4th generation seemed like it was trying way too hard to educate me on energy sources. My favourite is the 2nd, although I haven't played the remakes.

I don't know, I think that's a good thing. I liked that Pokemon decided to "grow up" a little bit with their original fans with a storyline that's a teensy bit more mature without becoming inacessible to new kids coming into the franchise. My main complaint about the storyline is that Team Plasma's ideals were interesting in the beginning, then quickly degraded into strawman territory. (We want to protect Pokemon but we have to enslave them to do it! Haha, just kidding, we really want power for ourselves!) I like to think it would have been possible to be a little more nuanced than that without making younger players think that they're abusing their Pokemon.

I haven't really hated any of the Pokemon games I've played. I guess I pick BW, just because the Pokemon Musicals were kind of disappointing and the Vanillish line made me feel deeply embarrassed on behalf of the designers.

What importance does he have? Arceus=universe Dialga & Palkia=Space, Time, Heatran=???

[Zamantula]

What is interesting to me is, looking back at when I played the first games, I thought that they were the hardest I had ever played. Now, I realize that they weren't hard, I just had no knack for puzzles.

As for the worst generation, I vote fourth. Uninteresting pokemon, EXTREMELY STUPID plot (though the Galactic Bomb was interesting), and who can justify the whole "Let's walk through four cites until you can fight another gym leader"?

I do wonder when you will be able to go to all five+ regions in a game. That would be interesting to see how they dealt with some of the problems that several regions could result in (i.e. Gym levels, Elite Four, possible storyline connections).

Also, would it kill the developers to allow you to design your own character? I absolutely HATED Gen V's character models.