Atheism takes faith?

[Zarabad]

Is it a stretch to assume that atheists have faith, because they believe that no deity created Earth? It's a legitimate question.

According to Wiki: "In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."

In a sense, atheists choose to believe there's no deity? Just like Theists believe there is (are) one (some)?
You decide.

Alright there buddy, don't just skip to the last page. A conclusion has been made. I have determined that atheism is that lack of faith entirely, and that is the pre-requisite for explicit atheism. You're welcome to voice your opinion, but I've got an answer. :3

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Is it a stretch to assume that atheists have faith, because they believe that no deity created Earth? It's a legitimate question.

According to Wiki: "In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."

In a sense, atheists choose to believe there's no deity? Just like Theists believe there is (are) one (some)?
You decide.

Well, I've seen atheists that consider other deities have the same validity the Christian god has as a source for the 'creation'.

Also, aren't there different types of atheism: explicit and implicit?

[Ovisterra]

I'm an atheist. It's not a faith. It's a lack of any faith.

Having no food isn't a meal after all.

[Zarabad]

Isn't implicit just, if one doesn't necessarily believe in a deity, he is considered an atheist?
And explicit a sort of real atheism?

However, this doesn't answer the question.

Does atheism take belief/faith. Whatever you want to call it. Because one is believing the possibility there is no deity?

[Motuka]

Gnostic atheism requires faith. Most atheists are agnostic though.

Technically I guess everyone who doesn't believe in any god is an atheist but atheists like to make things more complicated than that with all kinds of categories and everything

[Ovisterra]

Isn't implicit just, if one doesn't necessarily believe in a deity, he is considered an atheist?
And explicit a sort of real atheism?

However, this doesn't answer the question.

Does atheism take belief/faith. Whatever you want to call it. Because one is believing the possibility there is no deity?

What do you mean "Does it take faith"?

[Ovisterra]

Gnostic atheism requires faith. Most atheists are agnostic though.

Technically I guess everyone who doesn't believe in any god is an atheist but atheists like to make things more complicated than that with all kinds of categories and everything

That's fair. All the theists get categories.

[Zarabad]

Isn't implicit just, if one doesn't necessarily believe in a deity, he is considered an atheist?
And explicit a sort of real atheism?

However, this doesn't answer the question.

Does atheism take belief/faith. Whatever you want to call it. Because one is believing the possibility there is no deity?

What do you mean "Does it take faith"?

Well, one believes that there is no deity. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. How would one know, for certain. There's no concrete proof that there aren't deities. So, one might assume that it takes a certain amount of belief to believe there is not deity. Get where I'm coming from?

[Risottia]

Is it a stretch to assume that atheists have faith, because they believe that no deity created Earth? It's a legitimate question.

Yes, it is a legitimate question and yes, it is a stretch.

[Motuka]

also do we really need more threads about religion?

[Ovisterra]

What do you mean "Does it take faith"?

I mean, one believes that there is no deity.

No, one doesn't believe there is a deity. Atheism isn't a faith, it's a lack of faith. It's not that you believe in theism or you believe in atheism. You just believe or don't believe in theism.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Isn't implicit just, if one doesn't necessarily believe in a deity, he is considered an atheist?
And explicit a sort of real atheism?

However, this doesn't answer the question.

Does atheism take belief/faith. Whatever you want to call it. Because one is believing the possibility there is no deity?

I think you're giving atheism something that it doesn't really need or has. Faith, in a supernatural context.

I believe the sky is blue. That doesn't take faith. It is a fact. I believe that humans can be good or bad. That doesn't take faith. It's a fact that goodness and badness are traits that humans can have.

To an atheist what matters, in most cases, is that the facts tell them there is no deity. There's no faith involved in that.

[Dordriel]

It is not faith in the same way that believing in a deity is faith, but it could be said to be a faith in the same way that not believing n Martians is a faith. This would be a stretch of the use of the word faith though.

[Zarabad]

Isn't implicit just, if one doesn't necessarily believe in a deity, he is considered an atheist?
And explicit a sort of real atheism?

However, this doesn't answer the question.

Does atheism take belief/faith. Whatever you want to call it. Because one is believing the possibility there is no deity?

I think you're giving atheism something that it doesn't really need or has. Faith, in a supernatural context.

I believe the sky is blue. That doesn't take faith. It is a fact. I believe that humans can be good or bad. That doesn't take faith. It's a fact that goodness and badness are traits that humans can have.

To an atheist what matters, in most cases, is that the facts tell them there is no deity. There's no faith involved in that.

What facts, prey tell?
No sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested.

[Forsher]

Is it a stretch to assume that atheists have faith, because they believe that no deity created Earth? It's a legitimate question.

According to Wiki: "In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."

In a sense, atheists choose to believe there's no deity? Just like Theists believe there is (are) one (some)?
You decide.

Depends on the kind of faith we are talking about. I have faith in my ability to pass Level Two this year. When it comes to gods and the such there quite simply isn't.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think you're giving atheism something that it doesn't really need or has. Faith, in a supernatural context.

I believe the sky is blue. That doesn't take faith. It is a fact. I believe that humans can be good or bad. That doesn't take faith. It's a fact that goodness and badness are traits that humans can have.

To an atheist what matters, in most cases, is that the facts tell them there is no deity. There's no faith involved in that.

What facts, prey tell?
No sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested.

Can a god be seen? No. Can't the contradictory stories about deities be facts enough to discourage someone into 'believing' in a deity (take the Bible, as an example)? Yes.

Is there any palpable evidence of the existence of a deity? For someone who adheres to strict logic, this would dictate that a god/s is/are as unlikely in existence as the absinthe's green fairy.

You don't need faith to believe in the non-existence of a deity. All you need is, well, your senses. No sarcasm intended.

[Zarabad]

also do we really need more threads about religion?

Lulz. I'm really interested in this topic. Since NS has such a diverse user base, why not ask? Have myself challenged.

[Norstal]

Is it a stretch to assume that atheists have faith, because they believe that no deity created Earth? It's a legitimate question.

According to Wiki: "In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."

In a sense, atheists choose to believe there's no deity? Just like Theists believe there is (are) one (some)?
You decide.

Or maybe I just don't have enough fucks to devote in worshiping a god.

What do you call that? It's certainly not faith.

[Zarabad]

What facts, prey tell?
No sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested.

Can a god be seen? No. Can't the contradictory stories about deities be facts enough to discourage someone into 'believing' in a deity (take the Bible, as an example)? Yes.

Is there any palpable evidence of the existence of a deity? For someone who adheres to strict logic, this would dictate that a god/s is/are as unlikely in existence as the absinthe's green fairy.

You don't need faith to believe in the non-existence of a deity. All you need is, well, your senses. No sarcasm intended.

Point uno. You can't see air, yet you breathe it.
Point dos. What contradictory stories?
Point tres. Ancient writings cannot be completely forgotten aboot in this instance, can they? One might logically conclude that, according to the second law of thermodynamics, our ancestors were a whole lot smarter than we are, and they knew what was up?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Point uno. You can't see air, yet you breathe it.

There is evidence to the existence of air, at a chemical level. There is no such things for the existence of a deity.

Point dos. What contradictory stories?

Take the Jesus mythos, for example. Can you give any evidence that there was a historical Jesus?

Point tres. Ancient writings cannot be completely forgotten aboot in this instance, can they? One might logically conclude that, according to the second law of thermodynamics, our ancestors were a whole lot smarter than we are, and they knew what was up?

If one is to go by ancient writings, one would see that several stories in the Bible share similarities with those of other cultures (ex: the great flood). That doesn't prove the existence of a deity, what it proves is that several civilizations shared a common myth pool.

[Norstal]

Can a god be seen? No. Can't the contradictory stories about deities be facts enough to discourage someone into 'believing' in a deity (take the Bible, as an example)? Yes.

Is there any palpable evidence of the existence of a deity? For someone who adheres to strict logic, this would dictate that a god/s is/are as unlikely in existence as the absinthe's green fairy.

You don't need faith to believe in the non-existence of a deity. All you need is, well, your senses. No sarcasm intended.

Point uno. You can't see air, yet you breathe it.

You can see air.

Can you not see air here or are you being ignorant? You can also observe the molecules in air by conducting experiments.

Point dos. What contradictory stories?

I'll let Nana handle that.

Point tres. Ancient writings cannot be completely forgotten aboot in this instance, can they? One might logically conclude that, according to the second law of thermodynamics, our ancestors were a whole lot smarter than we are, and they knew what was up?

What is the second law of thermodynamics in your own words? Don't look it up and don't google it.

[Zarabad]

The second law of thermodynamics (in my words not Googling it.) Things are always progressing towards a state of decay. Perhaps I have that confused with another thing, it's late. lol.

[Norstal]

The second law of thermodynamics (in my words not Googling it.) Things are always progressing towards a state of decay. Perhaps I have that confused with another thing, it's late. lol.

Entropy in a closed system. It is a physics theory and have no bearing on our biological processes.

Thus, our ancestors we're not smarter than us (although some can be) as people continue to evolve. One can argue that this is evident by the astonishing number of those who has psychological problems such as dyslexia, ADHD (I have this one), etc. are remnants of our hunter-gatherer ancestors because these traits are no longer compatible with the modern world.

So, I don't know where you got this idea of our ancestors being smarter and wiser than us.

[Zarabad]

Point uno. You can't see air, yet you breathe it.

There is evidence to the existence of air, at a chemical level. There is no such things for the existence of a deity.

Point dos. What contradictory stories?

Take the Jesus mythos, for example. Can you give any evidence that there was a historical Jesus?

Point tres. Ancient writings cannot be completely forgotten aboot in this instance, can they? One might logically conclude that, according to the second law of thermodynamics, our ancestors were a whole lot smarter than we are, and they knew what was up?

If one is to go by ancient writings, one would see that several stories in the Bible share similarities with those of other cultures (ex: the great flood). That doesn't prove the existence of a deity, what it proves is that several civilizations shared a common myth pool.

The whole air thing was retarded, lol. I know.
Perhaps Greek writings.
And from a logical standpoint, if several civilizations share a common myth pool that perhaps it's true?

Alas, we've strayed from the question. So, the answer to my original question is, no. It takes zero belief to accept atheism?

Thanks for your input. All of you. I like to see things from other peoples' point of view.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Does not believing in leprechauns take faith? The answer to that is the same as the answer to the question posed.