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A mean old man
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Postby A mean old man » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:23 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:The same bugger actually submitted something attempting to repeal your commendation as well. :lol2:


He flaunted it in a telegram to me after I told him off, but it was deleted before I could entertain myself with it. A damned shame.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Subgeniustan » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:46 am

As the ambassador from Subgeniustan, I would like to convey a message issued by the leading Islamic cleric in our country, Sheikh Ahmed bin Hussein al-Wahhab, regarding this Security Council resolution. Please note that Sheikh al-Wahhab has over 10 million loyal followers in my country, making up about a quarter of my nation's population of 40 million, and since my country has no real government and is an Anarchy, he and his followers have been free to do whatever they want, including construction of terrorist training camps and imposing Sharia law on parts of the country that they control. Here is the message from our top Islamic cleric, which he told me I had to deliver to the Security Council or else he would have me killed:

Anthony Delasanta DID kill 100 million Muslims, and over a million of the victims of this genocide were citizens of my own country of Subgeniustan who were visiting his country on a pilgrimage to a sacred mosque located in his country. If "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" is repealed, I will declare a Holy Jihad against all the nations who voted to repeal this legislation, in the name of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Death to the infidels! Allahu Akbar!!!!!!!
- Sheikh Ahmed bin Hussein al-Wahhab


So, if "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" is repealed, 10 million of my country's citizens will become mobilized by their religious leader to carry out terrorist attacks against every single nation that votes in favor of this repeal, and ESPECIALLY the ones who argue in favor of it in this thread. And since the form of government of Subgeniustan is Anarchy, I am afraid there is no governmental authority in our nation powerful enough to prevent this. Therefore, I again would like to urge everyone to vote NO on this repeal. In fact, Sheikh al-Wahhab has told me personally that if my diplomacy fails on this effort and this Security Council resolution passes, he will have both me and my family killed. So please, if you don't want to see me and my family murdered, and don't want massive suicide bombings destroying your nations, vote "NO"! I am begging you! Trust me, this guy is worse than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network is bigger than Al Qaeda!
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Postby Damanucus » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:03 am

Subgeniustan wrote:As the ambassador from Subgeniustan, I would like to convey a message issued by the leading Islamic cleric in our country, Sheikh Ahmed bin Hussein al-Wahhab, regarding this Security Council resolution. Please note that Sheikh al-Wahhab has over 10 million loyal followers in my country, making up about a quarter of my nation's population of 40 million, and since my country has no real government and is an Anarchy, he and his followers have been free to do whatever they want, including construction of terrorist training camps and imposing Sharia law on parts of the country that they control. Here is the message from our top Islamic cleric, which he told me I had to deliver to the Security Council or else he would have me killed:

Anthony Delasanta DID kill 100 million Muslims, and over a million of the victims of this genocide were citizens of my own country of Subgeniustan who were visiting his country on a pilgrimage to a sacred mosque located in his country. If "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" is repealed, I will declare a Holy Jihad against all the nations who voted to repeal this legislation, in the name of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Death to the infidels! Allahu Akbar!!!!!!!
- Sheikh Ahmed bin Hussein al-Wahhab


So, if "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" is repealed, 10 million of my country's citizens will become mobilized by their religious leader to carry out terrorist attacks against every single nation that votes in favor of this repeal, and ESPECIALLY the ones who argue in favor of it in this thread. And since the form of government of Subgeniustan is Anarchy, I am afraid there is no governmental authority in our nation powerful enough to prevent this. Therefore, I again would like to urge everyone to vote NO on this repeal. In fact, Sheikh al-Wahhab has told me personally that if my diplomacy fails on this effort and this Security Council resolution passes, he will have both me and my family killed. So please, if you don't want to see me and my family murdered, and don't want massive suicide bombings destroying your nations, vote "NO"! I am begging you! Trust me, this guy is worse than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network is bigger than Al Qaeda!

... :rofl: ... :meh: The Damanucan Army shall be waiting.

OOC: But, in all honesty, I've read the posts; they were poorly written—two poorly formatted sentences in each, detailing actions without room for retaliation or consequence. If you don't believe me or anyone else who has said the same, you can find the posts listed here.

(By the way, I can't remember if I voted yay, nay or 'ey!? to the original; if yay, then I deeply regret it.)

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Postby Subgeniustan » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:23 am

I did it! I killed Sheikh Ahmed bin Hussein al-Wahhab, the terrorist leader who threatened to attack all of you! Now you will all be safe! I didn't know I had it in me... but that monster had to be stopped. I had a meeting with him right after I conveyed that message of his to the Security Council, and while his compound does have metal detectors and security guards, I blew that place up using plastic explosives that I planted there and remotely detonated right after I left, killing him and all of his top lieutenants. My commando training in the Subgeniustan army back when we had a government and a strong military really came in handy.

Anyway, nobody has to worry about him anymore. As for his followers, they were so amazed by my daring attack that they all worship me now. Now that I have 10 million loyal followers, I have ended Sharia law and shut down the terrorist training camps, and I will be setting up a new government and ending this state of Anarchy. I just wanted to let everyone know that things are fine now and they can vote however they wish on this resolution, now that I am in control of my country and the leaders of the terrorists are all dead. It turns out his 10 million followers are quite easily swayed, and what impresses them most is power. And now I have all the power in my country, the power to rebuild and form a new government. Viva la revolucion!

Now please feel free to vote however you wish on this resolution. All that matters now is that we finally have peace and security. :hug:
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:49 am

Tangent, much?
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Warzone Codger » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:52 pm

My greatest incentive to vote against is the chance to end up as the top delegate of the against side.

15 votes, I have 18.
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:40 am

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:48 am

Seeing as the information given about the Islamic genocide is obviously skewed, and although they sold off Jews as slaves in "The Great Jew Trade", we accept the repeal.
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Postby Evraim » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:51 am

I do believe that this is a rightful repeal, as Anthony Delasanta's plotlines and characters from the threads cited tend to possess a quality rather below the likes of, say, Milograd. That said, I shall oppose this on an entirely in-character basis. In fact, Anthony Delasanta may soon find his military under a rain of shells from Luciri battaries and, possibly, dealing with a legitimately declared jihad considering his oppression of Muslims and Jews alike. Of course, I would prefer him to improve his writing substantially before this occurs... Anyhow, on to "business".


"Ladies and gentleman, have we grown callous to the plights of the innumerable multitudes who, as of yet, perish every day under wanton and negligent tyranny? Have we become so inured to blatant and detestable atrocities that we may perceive only those which dispose themselves to our attention while condemning the victims of all others to their shackles? Have we become so obtuse and passionless as to deal with numbers rather than the substance of existence, of life, of liberty? With all due respect to the esteemed individual who believed it necessary to draft this resolution, I believe that those representatives who have vocalized their support for this measure have given a resounding rejoinder: yes. This response shall serve only to foment the narcissism and uncouth temerity of petty despots the world over. The World Assembly cannot permit the precedent, the hallowed tradition of myopia which I know is much venerated in these chambers, to continue. If so, our cause is already lost. We are already lost. My colleagues, I beseech you to oppose this resolution with the full strength of your convictions as I do now. This is not justice. Justice deals not in numbers, but in legal precedents and virtues. If even a single individual perished as a result of Anthony Delasanta’s bigoted policies, the condemnation must be deemed a necessity, regardless of your political values.”

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Postby Triodard and Florard » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:38 pm

If any of you actually read the thread about the condemnation, you will see there are nearly a dozen sources. This repealing of the condemnation claims there is no evidence, but there is actually a quote here: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=8052882#p8052882
He DID kill one hundred million Muslims in a matter of days. If you actually payed attention, you could see this. Not to mention he assisted in a raid against my region, which although defeated left us in chaos, although I can't find a source for that.

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Postby Damanucus » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:00 pm

Triodard and Florard wrote:If any of you actually read the thread about the condemnation, you will see there are nearly a dozen sources. This repealing of the condemnation claims there is no evidence, but there is actually a quote here: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=8052882#p8052882
He DID kill one hundred million Muslims in a matter of days. If you actually payed attention, you could see this. Not to mention he assisted in a raid against my region, which although defeated left us in chaos, although I can't find a source for that.


OOC: If we want to condemn bad actions explained with good roleplay, then we use a Condemnation. If we want to condemn bad roleplay, we simply pip them in-thread but out-of-character. This is an example of the latter, so a condemnation is overkill.

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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:02 pm

Looks like AMOM is well on his way to another passed resolution (sorry Fisch :( ). I'm going to get my congratulations in early, so here is your celebratory clappy-smiley that serves as my official back-patting. :clap:

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Postby Fischistan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:12 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:Looks like AMOM is well on his way to another passed resolution (sorry Fisch :( ). I'm going to get my congratulations in early, so here is your celebratory clappy-smiley that serves as my official back-patting. :clap:

Now is the perfect time to run a counter campaign. What do I need to offset, 8 thousand votes?
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Postby Evraim » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:17 pm

Fischistan wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:Looks like AMOM is well on his way to another passed resolution (sorry Fisch :( ). I'm going to get my congratulations in early, so here is your celebratory clappy-smiley that serves as my official back-patting. :clap:

Now is the perfect time to run a counter campaign. What do I need to offset, 8 thousand votes?

A criminal syndicate willing to threaten a bunch of hapless nerds who enjoy role-playing ambassadors to a multinational organization strangely reminiscent of the [redacted] to change their votes on this specific issue? :p
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:00 pm

Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" was passed 8,036 votes to 1,672.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Ex-Nation

Postby Alameda California » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:07 pm

Dose anyone ever plan on invading Anthony Delasanta for his crimes?

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Postby Evraim » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:15 pm

Alameda California wrote:Dose anyone ever plan on invading Anthony Delasanta for his crimes?

Yes. Of course, it will probably cause his fellow genocidal "enlightened" nations to jump into the conflict so it will require a coalition likely. Also, I won't participate until he improves his writing a little more. He's doing better though. :)

A mean old man wrote:Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" was passed 8,036 votes to 1,672.

Congratulations. :clap:
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Postby Alameda California » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 pm

Evraim wrote:
Alameda California wrote:Dose anyone ever plan on invading Anthony Delasanta for his crimes?

Yes. Of course, it will probably cause his fellow genocidal "enlightened" nations to jump into the conflict so it will require a coalition likely. Also, I won't participate until he improves his writing a little more. He's doing better though. :)

A mean old man wrote:Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta" was passed 8,036 votes to 1,672.

Congratulations. :clap:

Who would be intrested in organizing a coalition?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Alameda California wrote:Who would be intrested in organizing a coalition?

Dunno, but do it elsewhere. This is the Security Council, not Mercenaries-R-Us. Somewhere in the Diplomacy forums if you're talking about an RP invasion, or Gameplay if you are invading his region.

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Postby Alameda California » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:52 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Alameda California wrote:Who would be intrested in organizing a coalition?

Dunno, but do it elsewhere. This is the Security Council, not Mercenaries-R-Us. Somewhere in the Diplomacy forums if you're talking about an RP invasion, or Gameplay if you are invading his region.

Okay, thanks for the advice.

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