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[PASSED] Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"

Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:38 pm

Approve it.
Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"


The World Assembly,

BELIEVING that violent hate crimes are detestable and condemnation-worthy,

FURTHER BELIEVING that any nation or region that the World Assembly condemns should be a profound if not epitomic example of a truly abominable influence,

NOTING that almost all documentations of Anthony Delasanta’s activity are extremely brief and lack enough detail to be considered credible by an organization as official as the World Assembly,

EMPLOYING, as an example of the aforementioned concern, the notion that Anthony Delasanta was able to annihilate “over a hundred million Muslims … in a matter of days” from within its own population,

DISCERNING that Anthony Delasanta’s claims to have committed such an act are accompanied by very little detailed documentation, that the slaughter of over one hundred million people in a matter of days is practically impossible unless massively destructive forces (which would not be readily or realistically available to the nation of Anthony Delasanta at the time) were employed, and that, at the time this feat was supposedly accomplished, 100 million people would have been a vast portion of the nation’s population and, because of their sheer numbers, would have been a formidable adversary to those attempting to exterminate them,

DETERMINING that, based on how utterly absurd this claim is and based on how little quality evidence of its occurrence actually exists, it could not have played out in this exact fashion and is perhaps a trumped up or entirely false claim made by the government of Anthony Delasanta,

BELIEVING that Anthony Delasanta’s decisions as delegate of Ganar are hardly worth condemning; establishing a flag that the founder disagreed with is a petty thing to condemn, banning nations affiliated with an enemy region (which is also, consequentially, the region in which the author of this condemnation resides) is fairly typical and not necessarily something to frown upon, and suppressing messages which may threaten a delegate’s position is very common,

FURTHER NOTING that those in direct control of the government of Fischistan and those in direct control of the government of Anthony Delasanta are closely connected and suspecting this condemnation of being an opportunistic stunt pulled by the government of Fischistan to forward the nation’s own private interests,

CONDLUDING that, since the documentation of Anthony Delasanta’s actions is so horrendously flawed and cannot be considered accurate by the World Assembly, since Anthony Delasanta’s actions as delegate of Ganar are not outrageous, and since this condemnation is tainted by a potentially partisan and petty agenda due to the connection between the author and the target, the condemnation must be struck from the World Assembly’s records,

HEREBY REPEALS the condemnation of Anthony Delasanta.
Last edited by Goobergunchia on Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:00 pm, edited 4 times in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Fischistan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:42 pm

Didn't even draft it here before submitting, on a non-time sensitive concept? I would think that a SC regular would know better than to do something so foolish.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:51 pm

Fischistan wrote:Didn't even draft it here before submitting, on a non-time sensitive concept? I would think that a SC regular would know better than to do something so foolish.

Actually, the opposite is the case. Those like AMOM, who have experience with writing well-reasoned legal proposals, have less need of feedback from other SCers. You say "non-time sensitive", but submitting it this way means that those opposed to the proposal have less time to organise a counter-campaign. It's a clever way to do it for repeals, if you're confident enough about your writing skills and knowledge of the rules.

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Postby Milograd » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:14 pm

I'm absolutely for this, and discussed my interest in repealing this with you over IRC. Good stuff as always, AMOM.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:31 pm

Approved with my WAD. Nice work as always.

EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon?
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:44 pm

Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon?


?
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Connopolis » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:48 pm

I unequivocally support this; the resolution in which it seeks to repeal undermines the credibility and worth of a condemnation, and therefore, we happily lend our support. :)
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:55 pm

Connopolis wrote:I unequivocally support this; the resolution in which it seeks to repeal undermines the credibility and worth of a condemnation, and therefore, we happily lend our support. :)


So what qualifies as a "good" RP condemnation? Does the author have to approve of this before we can call it good?
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:01 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:So what qualifies as a "good" RP condemnation? Does the author have to approve of this before we can call it good?


I think we can all agree that one-liners, totally inconceivable statistics, godmoding, and sentences that end with !!!???!?!??!! usually make for bad roleplaying.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Connopolis » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:04 pm

A mean old man wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:So what qualifies as a "good" RP condemnation? Does the author have to approve of this before we can call it good?


I think we can all agree that one-liners, totally inconceivable statistics, godmoding, and sentences that end with !!!???!?!??!! usually make for bad roleplaying.


To elaborate on this, its the quality of the RP, not the content. I think it's universally accepted that a nation that RPs with things like -

nationville n00ked all teh nashuns in teh wurld, and evurbudy dyed!!!!!


- is much more heinous than the lesser trangressions committed by some of the more prominent condemnation recipients, but I think we can also agree that nations that write elaborate, well-written, and enjoyable RPs are to be recognized before the godmodders and newbies.
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Postby Skyrim Diplomacy » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Skyrim Diplomacy wrote:EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon?


?

Another repeal attempt got removed from queue, must not have been yours. :lol2:

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Postby Fischistan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:15 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Fischistan wrote:Didn't even draft it here before submitting, on a non-time sensitive concept? I would think that a SC regular would know better than to do something so foolish.

Actually, the opposite is the case. Those like AMOM, who have experience with writing well-reasoned legal proposals, have less need of feedback from other SCers. You say "non-time sensitive", but submitting it this way means that those opposed to the proposal have less time to organise a counter-campaign. It's a clever way to do it for repeals, if you're confident enough about your writing skills and knowledge of the rules.

Really? Of course you know I'm too lazy to do a counter campaign anyway. Maybe I'll do a half decent one just to get with the program.
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Postby Delegate Vinage » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:26 am

Completely supported
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:09 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Connopolis wrote:I unequivocally support this; the resolution in which it seeks to repeal undermines the credibility and worth of a condemnation, and therefore, we happily lend our support. :)


So what qualifies as a "good" RP condemnation?

One where the RP samples provided aren't crap?
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:20 pm

Full Support.

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Postby Goobergunchia » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:52 pm

No. 1330553725, "Repeal 'Condemn Anthony Delasanta'" (submitted by A mean old man), having received the requisite 75 approvals, has attained quorum. Question to be put in four hours eight minutes.
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Postby A mean old man » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:12 pm

A big thanks to everyone who approved and everyone I didn't telegram already to thank.
Last edited by A mean old man on Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Fischistani puppet1 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:20 pm

I am awaiting the voting of this resolution. Failure is sure to be imminent.
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:21 pm

Fischistani puppet1 wrote:I am awaiting the voting of this resolution. Failure is sure to be imminent.
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Don't be so sure. The margin was thin last time.
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Postby Fischistan » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:35 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Fischistani puppet1 wrote:I am awaiting the voting of this resolution. Failure is sure to be imminent.
~Fischistan

Don't be so sure. The margin was thin last time.

It was a pretty decent margin actually.
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Postby United Celts » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:24 pm

I have voted for this proposed repeal on behalf of Exshaw and I urge other members of this Security Council to do the same. A job well done, AMOM.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:25 pm

Fischistani puppet1 wrote:I am awaiting the voting of this resolution. Failure is sure to be imminent.
~Fischistan


AMOM repealed SC#3. I don't think so.

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Postby A mean old man » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:31 pm

United Celts wrote:I have voted for this proposed repeal on behalf of Exshaw and I urge other members of this Security Council to do the same. A job well done, AMOM.

Thanks.
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Robanistania » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:13 am

The basis for this proposal is sound, I think. Here is my thinking behind voting for this repeal:

It seems highly unlikely that the nation in question would have had the resources to carry out the heinous crimes that were alleged. One could argue that even the desire to carry out these terrible crimes should be worthy of a condemnation. However, I am a bit hesitant to hand out condemnations willy-nilly, lest they become commonplace. My concern here is that if we issue condemnations for minor infractions, it cheapens the condemnations issued for the major infractions. (Sure, I admit that the line between minor and major infractions is a blurry one, but this situation, which appears to simply involve lying, should fall more-or-less squarely on the side of minor infractions).

In closing, thank you very much for this principled repeal.

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Postby Tibberiria » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:38 am

I voted for the comdenation, but I can't find any fault with the reasoning of the repeal. Voted for.

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