Homosexuality and parenthood: your thoughts.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Brief background:
A couple who are friends of mine got married a year ago, more or less. They're homosexuals. As many couples do, they are thinking about parenting. Nothing wrong there, right? Wrong, it seems.

Because of the stigma that exists in many places, since they're gay, this apparently renders them immediately as bad candidates for parenting. Adoption, for example, has been made very difficult for them. It seems some think that homosexuality automatically turns them into bad people and, therefore, unfit for parenthood.

(Yes, I am aware that they can go the IVF way, surrogate parenting, yadda yadda. But they wish to adopt.)

My friends want to adopt, they fervently believe that they have all that is necessary to give a needy child (and they're not dead set on adopting a baby) all the love this child needs. They're economically stable, they have a good house and will be able to provide excellently for this child. These, IMO, are sufficient reasons for them to be able to adopt. The desire alone, to give love to an abandoned child, is enough.

However, this doesn't seem to be the case for the adoption agency. And the main strike against them is, sadly, their sexuality. Something that I don't see as key to bring up a happy and healthy child. If they're able to lovingly care for a son/daughter, why should their sexuality matter?

My question is simple: what do you think of homosexual parenting? Aye or nay and why do you think this way? (aside from the religion excuse)

[Meowfoundland]

I'm fine with it. Your friends will probably be better than most straight parents anyway.

[Wikkiwallana]

I think what sex one is attracted to makes no impact on one's fitness as a parent. If they are otherwise good people with a stable home and sufficient income, whether they prefer their partners to be same sex or different sex should have no bearing on their eligibility to get a child. And turning down any reasonable parent when we have so many more children needing adopting than families to adopt them is just stupid icing on the bigotry cake.

[Great Malema]

As long as they are good parents, which I'm sure they will be, who cares about their living arrangements or who they choose to love?

There are plenty of straight people who are absolutely horrible parents and scar their children for life. If terrible people who just happen to be straight have the right to be parents, then why can't gay couples?

[Archem States]

I don't see why there should be a problem with homosexual couples having children. As the guy before said, they'd probably do a much better job that a helluva lot of heterosexual couples do nowadays.

I guess it's just another barrier we have to breach on our path to the peak of social evolution.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think what sex one is attracted to makes no impact on one's fitness as a parent. If they are otherwise good people with a stable home and sufficient income, whether they prefer their partners to be same sex or different sex should have no bearing on their eligibility to get a child. And turning down any reasonable parent when we have so many more children needing adopting than families to adopt them is just stupid icing on the bigotry cake.

Exactly. Their sexuality shouldn't have an impact on their ability to be parents. Not when they can provide for a child and when there are so many children out there who only need a loving home.

[Lackadaisical2]

I'd be willign to live in their home so long as they don't get in the way of my addiction worship of bacchus.

[Lackadaisical2]

I think what sex one is attracted to makes no impact on one's fitness as a parent. If they are otherwise good people with a stable home and sufficient income, whether they prefer their partners to be same sex or different sex should have no bearing on their eligibility to get a child. And turning down any reasonable parent when we have so many more children needing adopting than families to adopt them is just stupid icing on the bigotry cake.

Exactly. Their sexuality shouldn't have an impact on their ability to be parents. Not when they can provide for a child and when there are so many children out there who only need a loving home.

I'm not a big fan of teh gheys (despite my love for Erisia, come back you fool!) but they'd be better parents than no one.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

As long as they are good parents, which I'm sure they will be, who cares about their living arrangements or who they choose to love?

There are plenty of straight people who are absolutely horrible parents and scar their children for life. If terrible people who just happen to be straight have the right to be parents, then why can't gay couples?

I think it's because of the social stigma that still exists. Some people still believe that to 'properly' raise a child, that it should be done between a man and a woman. But as you said, there are many straight men and women who make horrible parents. Horrible enough to harm and even murder their children. So, if a gay couple can offer stability and, most of all, love to a child, I don't see why they should have problems adopting.

It seems unfair, not only to them, but also to children in the foster home system.

[Sumadesia]

Well, let us not forget the fact that gay parents INEVITABLY raise gay children (just as straight parents INEVITABLY raise straight children), and it would be an awful, sinful thing to allow the creation and conversion of more gays.

[Radiatia]

This stuff never fails to make me angry.

What's worse is that the people who say "homosexuals shouldn't adopt" are almost always the same people you see standing outside abortion clinics ranting and raving.

There is no hope for humanity.

[Archem States]

Well, let us not forget the fact that gay parents INEVITABLY raise gay children (just as straight parents INEVITABLY raise straight children), and it would be an awful, sinful thing to allow the creation and conversion of more gays.

Best quote I heard was "If you want to blame someone, blame straight couples. They're the ones that keep having gay kids."

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

This stuff never fails to make me angry.

What's worse is that the people who say "homosexuals shouldn't adopt" are almost always the same people you see standing outside abortion clinics ranting and raving.

There is no hope for humanity.

It is unfair, very unfair. And I feel sad for them and for the children that need the love and care.

[Sumadesia]

Well, let us not forget the fact that gay parents INEVITABLY raise gay children (just as straight parents INEVITABLY raise straight children), and it would be an awful, sinful thing to allow the creation and conversion of more gays.

Best quote I heard was "If you want to blame someone, blame straight couples. They're the ones that keep having gay kids."

Yeah, I saw that on my friend's Facebook page the other day. It made me giggle

[Jormengand]

My question is simple: what do you think of homosexual parenting? Aye or nay and why do you think this way? (aside from the religion excuse)

The fact that this is even an issue is totally disgusting. To be honest, I don't think there is actually any tangible difference between homosexual and heretosexual parenting, and if there is, homosexuals are probably actually better at it. As was said, it's just bigoted idiots who don't know anything stopping it working.

[Unidox]

Well, this subject strikes close to home; as I also would like to raise children one day but currently reside in a state that views gays having kids as immoral, and gays as really immoral. For that matter they harp on single parents too. It seem like such a long road ahead for adoption rights that sometimes it seems like it would be better to give up on the idea.


Though, for a total non-serious musing. I purpose that your friends consolidate with other homosexual couples wanting to be parents to form a trust. To which they acquire this adoption agency through a hostile takeover 90's style.

[Lackadaisical2]

My question is simple: what do you think of homosexual parenting? Aye or nay and why do you think this way? (aside from the religion excuse)

The fact that this is even an issue is totally disgusting. To be honest, I don't think there is actually any tangible difference between homosexual and heretosexual parenting, and if there is, homosexuals are probably actually better at it. As was said, it's just bigoted idiots who don't know anything stopping it working.

Bigot.

[Jormengand]

The fact that this is even an issue is totally disgusting. To be honest, I don't think there is actually any tangible difference between homosexual and heretosexual parenting, and if there is, homosexuals are probably actually better at it. As was said, it's just bigoted idiots who don't know anything stopping it working.

Bigot.

No, it's because homosexuals tend not to be over-proud idiots as much as heteros, because they're oppressed.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Well, this subject strikes close to home; as I also would like to raise children one day but currently reside in a state that views gays having kids as immoral, and gays as really immoral. For that matter they harp on single parents too. It seem like such a long road ahead for adoption rights that sometimes it seems like it would be better to give up on the idea.


Though, for a total non-serious musing. I purpose that your friend consolidate with other homosexual couples wanting to be parents to form a trust. To which they acquire this adoption agency through a hostile takeover 90's style.

That sounds like a good idea.'

They told me the adoption agency is harping on them not having enough income. But that's BS. Between the 2 of them, they earn yearly around almost $200,000. My friend is a radiologist and his husband is a dentist. And the agency says $200,000 is not enough? It's the sexual orientation issue. And we all know it.

[Lackadaisical2]

Bigot.

No, it's because homosexuals tend not to be over-proud idiots as much as heteros, because they're oppressed.

Bigot...

[Cosmopoles]

I see no reason why homosexuals would make worse/better parents than straight couples, so why not?

It does seem to push people's buttons to a greater extent than homosecuality in general or even gay marriage. Scotland is a pretty tolerant country yet people were flipping out when a kid got placed with gay foster parents.

[Archem States]

"A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."

I'll just leave this here....

[Jormengand]

No, it's because homosexuals tend not to be over-proud idiots as much as heteros, because they're oppressed.

Bigot...

Any reason how saying that oppression leads to not being an over-proud idiot is bigoted, before i obliterate you with ignorecannons?

[Lackadaisical2]

"A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."

I'll just leave this here....

Try not to be so serious...

[Lackadaisical2]

Bigot...

Any reason how saying that oppression leads to not being an over-proud idiot is bigoted, before i obliterate you with ignorecannons?

Because oppression can lead to you being an over-righteous asshole due to your oh so fucking oppressed position fo *gasp* not being able to raise other people's kids?

How fucking horrible.