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Postby Nodinia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:16 am

CNN) -- Amid conservative opposition, a bill that would designate a day of "significance" in California for slain gay politician Harvey Milk is heading to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's desk.


Harvey Milk was California's first openly gay elected official. He was assassinated in 1978.

The legislation would denote May 22 -- Milk's birthday -- as a day of significance across the state.


The day of significance would not close schools or state offices, according to its text.

However, Randy Thomasson, the president of SaveCalifornia.com, said the bill was vague and could allow for a number of things at schools, including gay pride parades or "mock gay weddings."

"There's no definition in the bill," he said. "There is absolutely no limit to what could occur on campuses and go into little children's brains."

"Harvey Milk was a terrible role model for children," Thomasson said


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Indeed. Imagine if May 22nd was every year turned into a mass gheyness event. Welders, builders and other such manly types would suddenly engage in mass buttsecks, male japery such as nailing or welding boots to benches and hitting each other across the ass with towels would cease.....Spongebob would be run for 24 hours on all the channells. O the horror.....

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Postby Bottle » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:18 am

Harvey Milk was before my time, but the recent movie about his life gave me a chance to learn more. I actually didn't see the major movie, but I watched a documentary about Milk, and he seemed like a really cool guy.

I think it would be fantastic to have a Harvey Milk Day, in particular because of the events surrounding his death. It would be wonderful to open up discussion about how homophobia and sexism can ruin people's lives...and I'm not just talking about Milk and his loved ones, here, but also about the man who killed him.
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Postby Sierra Lobo » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:20 am

:? :? :? is this a flame thread :? :? :?
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Postby Skaladora » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:24 am

"Harvey Milk was a terrible role model for children," Thomasson said

This is a lie.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:29 am

Why would you have mock gay weddings in school?

Or any mock weddings for that matter?

Unless it was part of a school play.
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Postby Eofaerwic » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:42 am

Nodinia wrote:Indeed. Imagine if May 22nd was every year turned into a mass gheyness event. Welders, builders and other such manly types would suddenly engage in mass buttsecks, male japery such as nailing or welding boots to benches and hitting each other across the ass with towels would cease.....Spongebob would be run for 24 hours on all the channells. O the horror.....


That would be awesome, especially since May 22nd was my birthday - bring on the mass gayness 8)
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Postby RoI2 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:53 am

Hey! What's wrong with SpongeBob?
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Postby Gopferdammi » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:00 am

RoI2 wrote:Hey! What's wrong with SpongeBob?

Why, nothing at all. He's simply fabulous!

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:01 am

Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public and showcased them as a reason for his election to public office. That's a big positive role model argument. That's why we need Hugh Hefner day and Larry Flint day, too.
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Postby H N Fiddlebottoms VIII » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:10 am

Blouman Empire wrote:Why would you have mock gay weddings in school?

Or any mock weddings for that matter?

Unless it was part of a school play.

Harvey Milk was a proponent of Fake Gay Marriage.
He was also a proponent of Fake Gay Funerals, in which a gay man would pretend to be dead and a closed casket funeral would be held. At the end of the ceremony, the casket would be opened and rainbow colored snakes would spring out, like from those joke cans.
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Postby Jello Biafra » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:34 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

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Postby Nodinia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:41 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public and showcased them as a reason for his election to public office. That's a big positive role model argument. That's why we need Hugh Hefner day and Larry Flint day, too.
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As oppossed to the married ones who keep their toe tapping secrets to themselves, and their wives, voters and colleagues......

He was elected on a number of issues, btw.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:42 am

Jello Biafra wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

And, when discovered to have been carrying on an affair with someone not their spouse, go on at length about their shame and contrition. Yes, excellent role-models.

Besides, Harvey Milk simply said, "I am a homosexual." He never "brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public." Any knowledge of those activities you think you may have, YGO, comes primarily from your imagination.
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Postby Muravyets » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:48 am

Jello Biafra wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

No, more like when heterosexual politicians act out the melodramas of their sexual infidelities -- their exotic games with prostitutes; their first class flights to Argentina for booty calls; the way they serve their wives divorce papers while she's lying in a hospital bed sick with cancer, so they can marry the woman they've been banging behind their wife's back; or when they refuse to resign their offices after they get caught having embarrassing affairs outside their marriages, even though they called for other pols to resign when they got caught doing the same things, etc. -- all played out in the media with press conferences and everything, for months on end.

That's way more decorous and admirable than simply being a gay person where people can see you. :eek:
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Postby Muravyets » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

And, when discovered to have been carrying on an affair with someone not their spouse, go on at length about their shame and contrition. Yes, excellent role-models.

Besides, Harvey Milk simply said, "I am a homosexual." He never "brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public." Any knowledge of those activities you think you may have, YGO, comes primarily from your imagination.

Well, I guess some people prefer that closets remain closed. I guess.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:51 am

Muravyets wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

No, more like when heterosexual politicians act out the melodramas of their sexual infidelities -- their exotic games with prostitutes; their first class flights to Argentina for booty calls; the way they serve their wives divorce papers while she's lying in a hospital bed sick with cancer, so they can marry the woman they've been banging behind their wife's back; or when they refuse to resign their offices after they get caught having embarrassing affairs outside their marriages, even though they called for other pols to resign when they got caught doing the same things, etc. -- all played out in the media with press conferences and everything, for months on end.

That's way more decorous and admirable than simply being a gay person where people can see you. :eek:

Just so, Mury. One would think that there are no closets in San Francisco. Some people have no sense of their proper place.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:52 am

Muravyets wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Sure, why not designate a holiday for a man that brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public

You mean like when heterosexual politicians talk about their wives and (biological) children?

And, when discovered to have been carrying on an affair with someone not their spouse, go on at length about their shame and contrition. Yes, excellent role-models.

Besides, Harvey Milk simply said, "I am a homosexual." He never "brought knowledge of his intimate private activities to the general public." Any knowledge of those activities you think you may have, YGO, comes primarily from your imagination.

Well, I guess some people prefer that closets remain closed. I guess.

I suppose, though I suspect some people can see through even a closed closet door.
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Postby Muravyets » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:05 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Muravyets wrote:No, more like when heterosexual politicians act out the melodramas of their sexual infidelities -- their exotic games with prostitutes; their first class flights to Argentina for booty calls; the way they serve their wives divorce papers while she's lying in a hospital bed sick with cancer, so they can marry the woman they've been banging behind their wife's back; or when they refuse to resign their offices after they get caught having embarrassing affairs outside their marriages, even though they called for other pols to resign when they got caught doing the same things, etc. -- all played out in the media with press conferences and everything, for months on end.

That's way more decorous and admirable than simply being a gay person where people can see you. :eek:

Just so, Mury. One would think that there are no closets in San Francisco. Some people have no sense of their proper place.

I've never lived in San Francisco, so I don't know what the closet situation there is. I know closets are prime real estate in NYC, and very hard to come by in Boston. ;)

In any event, I approve of a Harvey Milk Day, because I think his career and his death are significant to more people than just the gay community, and I believe he deserves the recognition and remembrance.
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Postby Veblenia » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:34 am

H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:Why would you have mock gay weddings in school?

Or any mock weddings for that matter?

Unless it was part of a school play.

Harvey Milk was a proponent of Fake Gay Marriage.
He was also a proponent of Fake Gay Funerals, in which a gay man would pretend to be dead and a closed casket funeral would be held. At the end of the ceremony, the casket would be opened and rainbow colored snakes would spring out, like from those joke cans.


What a disgusting affront to the sanctity of death. This is no doubt directly responsible for the rise in zombism.
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Postby Flameswroth » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:45 am

Seems to me like the only reason this idea has any clout is because he got assassinated. If he had lived out his term, and his life, he probably would have been recognized, but wouldn't have had a shot at having a holiday.

It's like Martin Luther King, Jr. all over again, except worse: we don't get the day off!
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Postby Dimoniquid » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:50 am

So a gay guy... is an elected official? Good for you.

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Postby Iron Chariots » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:50 am

Flameswroth wrote:Seems to me like the only reason this idea has any clout is because he got assassinated. If he had lived out his term, and his life, he probably would have been recognized, but wouldn't have had a shot at having a holiday.

It's like Martin Luther King, Jr. all over again, except worse: we don't get the day off!


Yeah, that damn Dr. King. What the hell did he ever do that was worth commemorating with a holiday?!

But yeah, I'm all for a Harvey Milk day. Too bad most people in this country are homophobic bigots and the idea wouldn't have national viability. But good for California if they pass this.
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Postby H N Fiddlebottoms VIII » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:02 am

Veblenia wrote:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:Harvey Milk was a proponent of Fake Gay Marriage.
He was also a proponent of Fake Gay Funerals, in which a gay man would pretend to be dead and a closed casket funeral would be held. At the end of the ceremony, the casket would be opened and rainbow colored snakes would spring out, like from those joke cans.


What a disgusting affront to the sanctity of death. This is no doubt directly responsible for the rise in zombism.

Gay zombies are the worst kind of zombie. It is bad enough to have a guy ripping you open and pulling out your intestine like so much poorly packed sausage, the last thing I want is to worry about him also checking out my butt.
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Postby Iron Chariots » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:05 am

H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:
Veblenia wrote:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:Harvey Milk was a proponent of Fake Gay Marriage.
He was also a proponent of Fake Gay Funerals, in which a gay man would pretend to be dead and a closed casket funeral would be held. At the end of the ceremony, the casket would be opened and rainbow colored snakes would spring out, like from those joke cans.


What a disgusting affront to the sanctity of death. This is no doubt directly responsible for the rise in zombism.

Gay zombies are the worst kind of zombie. It is bad enough to have a guy ripping you open and pulling out your intestine like so much poorly packed sausage, the last thing I want is to worry about him also checking out my butt.



But of course, he drapes the intestine around you so tastefully that when you arise as a zombie yourself, you look fabulous!
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Postby Dimoniquid » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:15 am

Iron Chariots wrote:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:
Veblenia wrote:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:Harvey Milk was a proponent of Fake Gay Marriage.
He was also a proponent of Fake Gay Funerals, in which a gay man would pretend to be dead and a closed casket funeral would be held. At the end of the ceremony, the casket would be opened and rainbow colored snakes would spring out, like from those joke cans.


What a disgusting affront to the sanctity of death. This is no doubt directly responsible for the rise in zombism.

Gay zombies are the worst kind of zombie. It is bad enough to have a guy ripping you open and pulling out your intestine like so much poorly packed sausage, the last thing I want is to worry about him also checking out my butt.



But of course, he drapes the intestine around you so tastefully that when you arise as a zombie yourself, you look fabulous!


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