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by Milks Empire » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:34 pm
by Laissez-Faire » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:35 pm
Sanguinthium wrote:and then the government abolishes itself after its purpose has been served
Vestr-Norig wrote:I'm sorry, I am not familiar with your highbrow words.
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:Ah, how heavenly & masturbatable must unregulated capitalism be!
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:You're one of the most disingenuous people I've seen here.
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:Do you see any value in human dignity or happiness? I'm not trolling. I'm seriously wondering if you're a sociopath.
by Noobubersland » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:39 pm
by Aquophia » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:44 pm
Myth.
by Laissez-Faire » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:46 pm
Sanguinthium wrote:and then the government abolishes itself after its purpose has been served
Vestr-Norig wrote:I'm sorry, I am not familiar with your highbrow words.
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:Ah, how heavenly & masturbatable must unregulated capitalism be!
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:You're one of the most disingenuous people I've seen here.
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:Do you see any value in human dignity or happiness? I'm not trolling. I'm seriously wondering if you're a sociopath.
by United Dependencies » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:47 pm
Aquophia wrote:Myth.Milks Empire wrote:False. He's more conservative. He wants to undo the fucking civil rights movement, for fuck's sake!
Also, if you define "liberal" as being pro-abortion and taxing the rich, then you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. Liberal is the opposite of Conservative. Conservative's root word in latin means "to preserve" or "to go back to." So that would mean "liberal" would be "to change." and clearly Ron Paul wants change just as much as any liberal i've ever seen. Just because he doesn't want your type of change doesnt make him a conservative.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).
Cannot think of a name wrote:Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.
Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.
by Noobubersland » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:49 pm
Laissez-Faire wrote:Noobubersland wrote:It's a governments duty to protect it's citizens against threats to their well being whether they be foreign or domestic
And how good of a job does it do? You know collectivism is in the cycle when we need an added authority at maximum capacity to serve the people in something that is already in their own individual interests.
by Laissez-Faire » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:54 pm
Noobubersland wrote:Laissez-Faire wrote:And how good of a job does it do? You know collectivism is in the cycle when we need an added authority at maximum capacity to serve the people in something that is already in their own individual interests.
Well seeing as we do it and we're doing most things besides military spending better then you, Sweden used state capitalism and interventionism to industrialize, Norway and Denmark did the same. I would say that forcing people to do something to help themselves or their fellow man is fairly good in the long run
Sanguinthium wrote:and then the government abolishes itself after its purpose has been served
Vestr-Norig wrote:I'm sorry, I am not familiar with your highbrow words.
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:Ah, how heavenly & masturbatable must unregulated capitalism be!
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:You're one of the most disingenuous people I've seen here.
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:Do you see any value in human dignity or happiness? I'm not trolling. I'm seriously wondering if you're a sociopath.
by Crogach » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:59 pm
by Cromarty » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:21 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
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by Wikkiwallana » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:29 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:30 am
Laissez-Faire wrote:Noobubersland wrote:Well seeing as we do it and we're doing most things besides military spending better then you, Sweden used state capitalism and interventionism to industrialize, Norway and Denmark did the same. I would say that forcing people to do something to help themselves or their fellow man is fairly good in the long run
Wrong.
People perform best when they are individually responsible. The growth of world economies has largely been constrained into single power entities by subsidization, and although the dynamic of such Nordic countries has, by any observer, been greatly successful (thanks to their implementation of fairly lax constrains on the free market and a good tax code), this is due to the element of the free market, not the element of government oversight.
Japan heavily subsidized it's industry, along with several Asian nations which have traditionally used heavy amounts of government-backed economic infrastructure (China is quite the rule rather than the exception in many cases). Japan and other Asian nations felt the full force of a wave of economic fallbacks largely due to the inflexibility of growth in their economies. China is at it's crest right now because the government has dedicated itself solely to GDP growth.
Perhaps it had the future interests of China in mind. Perhaps it was lust for greed and wealth. However, serving the interests of the people was not successful. Sustainable free markets create this situation, and is honestly why the same "status quo" won't work in America either.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
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