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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:03 pm

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My friends, enemies, enemies of my enemies, friends of my enemies, enemies of my friends, friends of my friends, and associated people who think i'm rambling on too much,

one nation that has been a perpetual force in this Security Council, a nation that has been a force in the world assembly, in fact, a nation which is an outspoken proponent of the defender cause, and a nation I look up to and respect greatly,

Unibot. Unibot has commended many nations for their great accomplishments, yet we have not yet recognized his. I am of the belief that it is about time that we do recognize his contributions. When better than now, with the new year, and ideally, the first SC resolution of 2012 will be this, Commend Unibot II.

I look forward to comments, suggestions, and critiques.


The Security Council,

IDENTIFYING the nation of Unibot II as the successor to the now defunct state of Unibot as well as the nation behind the puppet state of Unibotian WA Mission, as well as a variety of other puppet states, and that Unibot II is frequently referred to simply as 'Unibot',

COGNIZANT that Unibot played a role in the furtherment of the idea, which was eventually implemented, of the two WA chambers operating as they do, with independent voting and separate proposal queues,

RECOGNIZING the vast success of Unibot in both branches of the World Assembly, the General Assembly and the Security Council, including authoring 8 GA resolutions with 1 coauthored and authoring 13 SC resolutions with 4 coauthored,

APPLAUDING Unibot for writing resolutions to address concerns such as care of the mentally ill, nautical pilotage, forced disappearances, and the protection of outer space

RECOGNIZING Unibot as one of the pioneers of the Security Council, including authoring a commendation of Starblaydia for sporting achievements, a Commendation for The Cat Tribe for general debating, a condemnation for Greater Tezridan for international incidents, a condemnation for Flag Thief, and a Liberation for Greece,

NOTING that Unibot was one of the main proponents of Liberation Resolutions as a method of conflict resolution for defenders and not simply a tool for the worst of the worst situations such as what once was in Belgium, and consequently Unibot has helped restore native communities via a Liberation Resolution six times,

ACKNOWLEDGING Unibot as one of the premier defenders of this modern era in NationStates, in terms of skill, leadership, and strategy,

RECOGNIZING Unibot as the creator of the United Defenders League, a defense organization based on a concept of individual nations as opposed to regions comprising the organization, and an organization which has quickly became one of the premier defending organizations in NationStates,

REALIZING Unibot is the founder of Eastern Islands of Dharma, which has developed into the premier WA-centric region of NationStates and home to numerous resolution authors,


APPLAUDING the many scholarly works emnating from Unibot, including an analysis of NationStates generations, a refurbished document containing advice to budding nation creators regarding achieving a certain World Census category, and a list of common prayers to the almighty god of our humble multiverse, violet,

BELIEVING that with all the accomplishments of Unibot, a commendation is long overdue,

Hereby, with all the accomplishments of Unibot being considered, Commends Unibot II.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:58 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:We support this!

I am glad to hear it!
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Postby Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:41 pm

Mahaj wrote:*ahem*

My friends, enemies, enemies of my enemies, friends of my enemies, enemies of my friends, friends of my friends, and associated people who think i'm rambling on too much,

one nation that has been a perpetual force in this Security Council, a nation that has been a force in the world assembly, in fact, a nation which is an outspoken proponent of the defender cause, and a nation I look up to and respect greatly,

Unibot. Unibot has commended many nations for their great accomplishments, yet we have not yet recognized his. I am of the belief that it is about time that we do recognize his contributions. When better than now, with the new year, and ideally, the first SC resolution of 2012 will be this, Commend Unibot II.

I look forward to comments, suggestions, and critiques.


I think you should be commended for being such a tool.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:46 pm

I'll support this.
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Postby Lemmingtopias » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:53 pm

I support this overall. A couple of the points I don't, such as commending for commending others, makes it a bit of a gentlemans club yanno?

But overall, fully support.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:54 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'll support this.

Glad for your support, Nightkill.

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds wrote:
I think you should be commended for being such a tool.

And the first of what i'm sure will be many comments in this vein come out. Three posts in, not counting the OP. Well done!
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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:54 pm

Why not commend Unibot? Why Unibot II?
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:55 pm

Lemmingtopias wrote:I support this overall. A couple of the points I don't, such as commending for commending others, makes it a bit of a gentlemans club yanno?

But overall, fully support.

Well... commending others is an accomplishment, and Uni has commended many others, so it makes sense to note what he has done.

Glad for your (mostly) support.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:55 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:Why not commend Unibot? Why Unibot II?

Unibot.

Be my guest.
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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:57 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:Why not commend Unibot? Why Unibot II?

Unibot.

Be my guest.


Oh weird. Why doesn't Unibot exist anymore?
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:58 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Unibot.

Be my guest.


Oh weird. Why doesn't Unibot exist anymore?

Modkilled.

Seriously though, you haven't noticed Unibot using the Unibot II nation for a while now? :p
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Postby Swift Atalanta » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:59 pm

Meh. I think some of the things he has done make him unworthy.

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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:00 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Oh weird. Why doesn't Unibot exist anymore?

Modkilled.

Seriously though, you haven't noticed Unibot using the Unibot II nation for a while now? :p


Hmm. I wonder though if we really want to commend a player with a prior reputation of getting his nations deleted by the mods. :p
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:03 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Modkilled.

Seriously though, you haven't noticed Unibot using the Unibot II nation for a while now? :p


Hmm. I wonder though if we really want to commend a player with a prior reputation of getting his nations deleted by the mods. :p

I knew this was coming. First of all, its nation, singular. Secondly, that doesn't mean his accomplishments didn't occur, and it shouldn't take away from worthiness.


Swift Atalanta wrote:Meh. I think some of the things he has done make him unworthy.

I'm sure some people think he's done some bad things, but I wouldn't say that they make him unworthy, he has still accomplished a tremendous amount, for sure worthy of a commendation. Although, some people will never support this.
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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Hmm. I wonder though if we really want to commend a player with a prior reputation of getting his nations deleted by the mods. :p

Secondly, that doesn't mean his accomplishments didn't occur, and it shouldn't take away from worthiness.


Of course it does. We commend the nation, not certain individual actions. The positive and negative aspects of a player's/nation's past should both be considered and weighed against each other.
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Postby The New Texas Lands » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:07 pm

I, speaking for Breedale, support this.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:34 pm

NOTING that Unibot was one of the main proponents of Liberations as a tool for defenders and not simply a tool for the worst of the worst situations such as Belgium, and consequently Unibot has helped restore native communities via a Liberation six times,

What about everyone who voted for them? I think they did much more than anyone here did :P

ACKNOWLEDGING Unibot as one of the premier defenders of this modern era in NationStates, in terms of skill, leadership, and strategy,

Define era. There's a few people i'd put above Uni. Don't forget the FRA business where he was nearly voted out of AC....

REALIZING Unibot is the founder of Eastern Islands of Dharma, a region known for being a popular hangout for numerous WA authors

He founded a region, thats nice. DId he personally help each WA author with every proposal?

PRAISING Unibot for the diplomacy shown in various interactions, such as in World Assembly debates and in communications with other defense organizations,

Communication? Are we talking about the same Uni? How's his communication with TITO?

Out of interest, have we ever commended someone who had their first nation deleted? I'm too lazy to check
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Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds wrote:
Mahaj wrote:*ahem*

My friends, enemies, enemies of my enemies, friends of my enemies, enemies of my friends, friends of my friends, and associated people who think i'm rambling on too much,

one nation that has been a perpetual force in this Security Council, a nation that has been a force in the world assembly, in fact, a nation which is an outspoken proponent of the defender cause, and a nation I look up to and respect greatly,

Unibot. Unibot has commended many nations for their great accomplishments, yet we have not yet recognized his. I am of the belief that it is about time that we do recognize his contributions. When better than now, with the new year, and ideally, the first SC resolution of 2012 will be this, Commend Unibot II.

I look forward to comments, suggestions, and critiques.


I think you should be commended for being such a tool.

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:43 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Secondly, that doesn't mean his accomplishments didn't occur, and it shouldn't take away from worthiness.


Of course it does. We commend the nation, not certain individual actions. The positive and negative aspects of a player's/nation's past should both be considered and weighed against each other.

I would still argue that the positive outways the negative by a far amount here.


The New Texas Lands wrote:I, speaking for Breedale, support this.

I am glad for the support.

Drop Your Pants wrote:
NOTING that Unibot was one of the main proponents of Liberations as a tool for defenders and not simply a tool for the worst of the worst situations such as Belgium, and consequently Unibot has helped restore native communities via a Liberation six times,

What about everyone who voted for them? I think they did much more than anyone here did :P

And if they weren't authored by somebody they couldn't be voted on. :p

ACKNOWLEDGING Unibot as one of the premier defenders of this modern era in NationStates, in terms of skill, leadership, and strategy,

Define era. There's a few people i'd put above Uni. Don't forget the FRA business where he was nearly voted out of AC....

era is a time frame. Right now, and around this time, I think for many people Uni is one of the faces of defending. And there can be multiple premier defenders, Uni definitely deserves to be in this class. As for the FRA business-- I don't think that had really much to do with defending. I'm not very knowledgeable about that, though, and his attempted lib of TSP from sedge may have played a part of it, though I'd argue he didn't do anything wrong trying to lib TSP.


REALIZING Unibot is the founder of Eastern Islands of Dharma, a region known for being a popular hangout for numerous WA authors

He founded a region, thats nice. DId he personally help each WA author with every proposal?

No, but said hangout would not exist had he not founded it.

PRAISING Unibot for the diplomacy shown in various interactions, such as in World Assembly debates and in communications with other defense organizations,

Communication? Are we talking about the same Uni? How's his communication with TITO?

Sometimes I think he's *too* nice with TITO :p. He seriously is diplomatic with them.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:02 pm

Some changes made, as I showed it to Uni to see if he had any objections and he did. :p
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Postby Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:17 am

Mahaj wrote:Some changes made, as I showed it to Uni to see if he had any objections and he did. :p


What is the point of the whole "don't commend yourself" rule when proxies are so easily employed to do it for us?

I feel like this justifies my earlier post. *glances at Nervun*

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:31 am

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds wrote:I feel like this justifies my earlier post. *glances at Nervun*

Cut it out, or you'll be warned.

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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:39 am

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Some changes made, as I showed it to Uni to see if he had any objections and he did. :p


What is the point of the whole "don't commend yourself" rule when proxies are so easily employed to do it for us?

And The Negative Nancies are back for more, too bad they have no fans.


Seriously, do you have any substantial comments?
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Postby Paper Flowers » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:53 pm

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds wrote:What is the point of the whole "don't commend yourself" rule when proxies are so easily employed to do it for us?


Without having seen the original draft (so I don't know what Unibot objected to,) I would say there are some situations where it makes sense to at least take into account the opinion of the person you wish to commend. An example could be if Mahaj had put in something that Unibot didn't feel was worthy of commendation, or thought some of the details were inaccurate.

Basically there's a difference between "I'm going to write a commendation about <x>....I'd better get their opinion on it" and <x> saying "hey, go write a commendation about me."
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