by Port Arcana » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:40 pm
by New Mitanni » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:44 pm
by Hairless Kitten II » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:46 pm
by Port Arcana » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:47 pm
New Mitanni wrote:Yes. Specifically, Eastern Europe. Between 1945 and 1989.
And now that there's at least one admitted Communist in the Obamunist regime, namely Van Jones, and most likely many others, that possiblity is closer than ever to realization.
by Chrobalta » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:47 pm
by Pope Joan » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:47 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:47 pm
by Epicnopolis » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:48 pm
Port Arcana wrote:I was eating lunch with two of my closest friends and a friend from France (we are all in uni) when we got on the topic of politics and culture. The French foreign exchange student commented on how bizarre it was that people could easily purchase guns in the states but have such trouble getting decent healthcare, etc and generally bashing on conservative policies and stuff when all of a sudden my friend says "yeah, we're liberals, its our job to make America more like France" or something along those lines.
To which I responded with, "whoa, you actually admitted that?" O_o
I've always been a big fan of Europe, I lived in England for a while and loved it. Sure, it has its share of problems such as knife stabbings, teen alcohol abuse and high teen pregnancy rates, but I was so impressed with the difference in attitudes and the general culture that I fell in love with the UK within three days of staying there whereas I've never felt this way about the states (after living here for almost eleven years).
Is it just me, or do other liberals have this "sense of duty" to help America become as enlightened as western Europe where a society does not abandon its worst off, and has higher accountability to the environment, values such as social equality, humanism, etc as well? Or am I just a crazy lefty college student?
by Unterzagersdorf » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:48 pm
by Techno-Soviet » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:51 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:58 pm
New Mitanni wrote:Better Jack than Barack.
by Port Arcana » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:59 pm
by The Rich Port » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:01 pm
by Gauntleted Fist » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:08 pm
by History land » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:12 pm
Gauntleted Fist wrote:If by "turning America into Europe" you mean "improving the quality of life for people", then, yes.
by Brogavia » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:18 pm
by Kantria » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:19 pm
New Mitanni wrote:Yes. Specifically, Eastern Europe. Between 1945 and 1989.
History land wrote:Improving the quality of life. I have you heard the stories about all the bad things that happen under NHS care. Plus they outlawed Guns in England and surrenderd power to the EU. I don`t want america to be controled by a world goverment.
Also I want my right to own a gun because their is less crime here than there is in england.
by History land » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:21 pm
by Chrobalta » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:21 pm
History land wrote:Gauntleted Fist wrote:If by "turning America into Europe" you mean "improving the quality of life for people", then, yes.
Improving the quality of life. I have you heard the stories about all the bad things that happen under NHS care. Plus they outlawed Guns in England and surrenderd power to the EU. I don`t want america to be controled by a world goverment.
Also I want my right to own a gun because their is less crime here than there is in england.
by Kantria » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:22 pm
Brogavia wrote:Europe is an emasuclated shell of its former self. .
by Kantria » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:22 pm
History land wrote:Also totalitarian goverments banned guns like Hitler,Mao and Stalin. So that means the UK is a totalitarian goverment under Prime Minister (AKA Dictator) Gordon Brown and controled by the Labor Party (aka Communist Party) of England.
by South Lorenya » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:24 pm
by NERVUN » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:24 pm
Plus they outlawed Guns in England and surrenderd power to the EU. I don`t want america to be controled by a world goverment.
Also I want my right to own a gun because their is less crime here than there is in england.
by Natapoc » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:25 pm
by History land » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:25 pm
Chrobalta wrote:History land wrote:Gauntleted Fist wrote:If by "turning America into Europe" you mean "improving the quality of life for people", then, yes.
Improving the quality of life. I have you heard the stories about all the bad things that happen under NHS care. Plus they outlawed Guns in England and surrenderd power to the EU. I don`t want america to be controled by a world goverment.
Also I want my right to own a gun because their is less crime here than there is in england.
As opposed to having people who don't get health care, I will settle for something like the NHS. Its better than the current American system.
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
And about crime, only 3 European countries are higher than the US, and the US is higher than all in murder. That is what all these guns lead to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... urder_rate
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_t ... per-capita
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