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World Baseball Classic Discussion Thread

Postby Qazox » Wed May 27, 2009 9:36 pm

Anything and everything involving the WBC that is not an RP or scores belongs here!

Current WBC Constitution this link. [Mod Edit: Current Constitution, January 2017]
Or behind this spoiler:
WBC Constitution, December 2013
(previously amended April 2012)


Article I: Council Eligibility

Section 1: To be an eligible member of the Council, a nation must have participated (meaning post a roster and at least ONE RP) in the previous 2 Classics and be approved by a simple majority vote of the current Council. (ie: if there are currently 10 or 11 voting members are on the council, then 6 members would have to approve, etc.) This is to limit the number of members of the Council to the truly active participants.

Section 2: To maintain membership, a nation must fulfill at least one of the following criteria:
Clause a. Hosting (or Co-hosting) a Classic, (if possible), within the next 3 Classics.
Clause b. Participate (meaning post a roster and at least ONE RP) in the subsequent Classic.

Section 3: If a Member of the Council fails to maintain its membership (by failure to fulfill any of the above criteria), it shall have 1 Classic to retain membership (by fulfilling any of the above criteria). If the Member does not do so, then it shall not be eligible for membership on the Council for a minimum of one Classic.

Section 4: Any previous hosts of the Classic within the last three WBCs are also eligible, pending a simple majority vote of the current Council.

Article II: Rights and Responsibilities of the Council

Section 1: The Council shall be the voters for the next Host of the Classic and shall choose from the available bids.

Section 2: The Council shall be the determining body for changes, (ie: repealing, amending or introduction of new rules), to the WBC Constitution. A two-thirds majority shall be needed to amend or repeal any part of the WBC Constitution, but a simple majority vote shall be sufficient for introduction of new rules to the Constitution.

Section 3: Any member of the Council can withdraw from the Council without prejudice, but shall be subject to the above eligibility guidelines if they seek re-instatement.

Section 4: Council members may "go on vacation" (ie: take a NS break) for a maximum of two Classics; but shall be subject to the above eligibility guidelines if they seek re-instatement if they are gone for more than two consecutive Classics.

Section 5: The Council is responsible for maintaining the integrity of the Classic and for advertising of the same.

Section 6: The Council shall be held to any subsequent rights and/or responsibilities that are created henceforth into the WBC Constitution.

Article III: President of the Council

Section 1: The Council will be headed by a president who will be elected by the members of the council, using the same election procedures as outlined in Article VI.

Section 2: The president will be elected after every third World Baseball Classic, and will serve terms of three Classics. No one may serve as president for two consecutive terms.

Section 3: The president's duties are the following: opening the sign-up thread; opening and collecting host voting; opening and collecting constitutional proposal voting; keeping the council list updated; opening and collecting council member election voting; and making any other arbitrary decisions which are not fit to be decided by the council as a whole.

Section 4: The president must appoint a vice-president to serve in his/her absence. If the president goes missing for an extended period of time, or ceases to exist, the vice-president has the right to step up and serve as the president pro tempore.

Section 5: The president may be impeached under the procedures of Article IV. If the president is impeached and removed from the council, the vice-president becomes the new president.

Article IV: Impeachment Procedures

Section 1: In order to initiate impeachment and/or removal from office proceedings against a current member of the World Baseball Classic Council, another member in good standing must motion for impeachment. If a different member seconds the motion, the member is considered impeached.

Section 2: In the event that a Council member is impeached, the full Council shall have one RL week to discuss whether or not to remove the impeached member. During that period, the impeached member is still considered a full voting member of the Council on any items other than those involving the impeachment proceedings.

Section 3: The council president shall initiate the removal vote, which shall only take place in the event two thirds of votes cast are in favour of removal from office. If the president is the one being impeached, the vice-president shall serve the same role as the president for the purposes of this section.

Section 4: In the event that two third of votes cast are in favour of removal from office, the Council member shall be removed from the Council with immediate effect for a period of two World Baseball Classics. At the end of the two World Baseball Classic period, the member may petition to rejoin the Council and initiate a plan to address any concerns outlined in the impeachment proceedings.

Section 5: Any Council member removed due to impeachment proceedings must be nominated to rejoin the Council and must be formally seconded. If that occurs, the Council may vote on readmission when votes for new Council members are being taken. If a simple majority of votes cast are in favour of readmission, the impeached member shall rejoin the Council with immediate effect.

Article V: Formula for World Rankings

Section 1: For each Classic, divide the number of games a team won by the number of games played by the team playing the most games.

Section 2: A team's ranking is the sum of:
Clause a. Four times their Section 1 quotient for the most recently completed Classic;
Clause b. Twice their Section 1 quotient for the next-most-recent completed Classic; and
Clause c. The unmodified Section 1 quotient for the third-most-recent completed Classic.

Section 3: When calculating the rankings, any games won due to forfeit are still treated as bona fide wins.

Article VI: Tournament Sportsmanship

Section 1: No team may voluntarily forfeit games or entire series after a World Baseball Classic has started.

Section 2: Only nations that have ceased to exist during the World Baseball Classic before being eliminated are deemed as forfeiting.

Section 3: Forfeited games due to CTE by a nation are automatic victories for the opposing team and should be scorinated as such.

Article VII: Voting Procedures

Section 1: For a Council vote to be considered valid, a motion must have a simple majority of votes cast provided that a quorum of Council members votes in favour of or against the motion at vote.

Section 2: For the purposes of this amendment, a "quorum" shall be defined as one more than half the current voting membership of the Council.

Section 3: Any measure that receives the votes of one more than half the active Council membership shall be automatically approved.

Article VIII: Miscellaneous Procedures

Section 1: When creating the signup thread, the thread creator is to provide (at minimum) a link to the winning bid of the last World Baseball Classic and set a definitive deadline for when host bids must be received by.
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Postby Qazox » Wed May 27, 2009 10:15 pm

Newmanistan wrote:
I agree.

I was referring to a more official World Baseball Classic Committee. Something to think about right now. I'm quite optimstic about the influence the new forums, and a specific sports forum is going to have on numbers of participants.



I agree with you. But Since the next WBC isn't going to happen for until at least July, I'm not overly worried about that right now. But it does need to be done.

I'll start on somewhat of a Consitution this week for it.

So any suggestions for what should go into this new WBC Consitution? Please post them here and i will take all SERIOUS suggestions seriously. (ie: No perma-ban of DH, as some teams like it, while most don't.)

Hopefully by mid-june (the earliest the sign-ups for the next WBC will begin) I'll have a preliminary consitution up and we can debate about it then.

As for a WBC Council: My earliest thoughts as to who should sit on it, so to speak, are:

    Qazox
    Milchama
    Zwangzug
    Liventia
    Taeshan
    Newmansitan
    Tocrowkia

These 7 nations have been very involved with the hosting of, (excepting Taeshan and Milchama), and/or paticipating in all of the WBC's so far. Not to mention collectively the 7 nations above are very active withing the NSSports community and are respected (excepting myself) members of the forums.

If there is any other nation that you believe should sit on the WBC Council or if one of the above 7 shouldn't sit on the WBC Council. Post away about it.
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Qualified for World Cups 31, 33, 35-50, 54-59, 61, 62. Runners-up: CoH 52
Baptism of Fire 44 (w/Mangolana); World Baseball Classics 1, 4, 5, 10, 13 and 23; World Cup of Hockey 7 and 14; World Bowls IV & IX; IBC X; Baptism of Iron III and VIII; NSCAA Tourney II, III (conferences/regionals), The OXEN Cup; the TOUR de QAZOX, Qazoxian Sports Festival and NS X-Games/Winter X-Games I.
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Postby Tocrowkia » Thu May 28, 2009 1:00 am

I would of course be more than honored to be a member of the WBC council. I have no objections to the other six members either, especially members like Newmanistan and your self Qazox whom have not only hosted the event multiple times but RP frequently and do so consistently and with quality. Like I said, it would truly be an honor to be up there with you guys.
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Re: WBC Disscussion Thread

Postby Zwangzug » Thu May 28, 2009 1:22 pm

The list looks all right for now, I might add Secristan as well. But that's only good for now--there's no criteria for adding more nations in the future. The World Cup has some hard and fast guidelines for committee membership, and that might be something to emulate.

Also, "Discussion". And maybe spell out "baseball" in the title so newcomers know what we're talking about?

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Re: WBC Disscussion Thread

Postby Newmanistan » Thu May 28, 2009 9:28 pm

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Six-time World Baseball Classic Champions
NEWMANISTAN SPORTING ACHIEVEMENTS:
CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Qazox » Thu May 28, 2009 9:53 pm

Zwangzug wrote:The list looks all right for now, I might add Secristan as well. But that's only good for now--there's no criteria for adding more nations in the future. The World Cup has some hard and fast guidelines for committee membership, and that might be something to emulate.

Also, "Discussion". And maybe spell out "baseball" in the title so newcomers know what we're talking about?


for the thread title I have no idea how to change that.

As for the first point, (just spitballing here)

In the text below Council refers to the WBC Council collectively, Classic refers to the Tourney itself, and Member(s) refers to the individual Council members.

WBC COUNCIL


COUNCIL ELIGIBILITY:

    1- To be an eligible member of the Council, a nation must have participated (meaning post a roster and at least ONE RP) in the previous 2 Classics and be approved by a 50%+1 majority vote of the current Council. (ie: if there are currently 10 or 11 members are on the council, then 6 members would have to approve, etc.) This is to limit the number of members of the Council to the truly active participants.

    2- To maintain membership, a nation must fufill at least one of the following criteria:
      a: Hosting (or Co-hosting) a Classic, (if possible), within the next 5 Classics.
      b: Participate (meaning post a roster and at least ONE RP) in the subsequent Classic.
      c: Hosting (or Co-hosting) a Classic qualifying tourney, (if such a need exists), (if possible), within the next 5 Classics.

    3- If a Member of the Council fails to maintain its membership (by failure to fufill any of the above criteria), it shall have 1 Classic to retain membership (by fufilling any of the above criteria). If the Member does not do so, then it shall not be eligible for membership on the Council for a mininum of TWO Classics.

    4- Any previous hosts of the Classic are also eligible, pending a 50%+1 majority vote of the current Council.

RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COUNCIL:

    1- The Council shall be the voters for the next Host of the Classic and shall choose from the availible bids.
    2- The Council shall be the determining body for changes, (ie: repealing, admending or introduction of new rules), to the WBC Constitution. A two-thirds majority shll be needed to admend or repeal any part of the WBC Constitution, but a 50%+1 majority vote Council shall be sufficent for introduction of new rules to the Constitution.
    3- Any member of the Council can withdraw from the Council without predjudice, but shall be subject to the above eligiblity guidelines if they seek re-instatement.
    4- Members of the Council, may, upon request, overrule a Host's (or Co-Host's) decision regarding controversies during a tourney, but the vote to do so MUST BE unanimous.
    5- Council members may "go on vacation" (ie: take a NS break) for a maximum of 3 Classics; but shall be subject to the above eligiblity guidelines if they seek re-instatement if they are gone for more than 3 Classics.
    6- The Counsil is responsible for maintaining the integrity of the Classic, and for advertising of the same.
    7- The Council shall be held to any susequent rights and/or responsibities that are created henceforth into the WBC Constitution.

CURRENT PROVISIONAL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL:
(Pending Approval)
    Qazox
    Liventia
    Milchama
    Taeshan
    Zwangzug
    Newmanistan
    Tocrowkia
    Sarzonia
    Secristan
    Vephrall
    Yafor II
    Kura-Pelland
    Cassadaigua

(Possible Council members pending retrurn or approval:)
    Az-cz
    Green Wombat
    Lovisa
    ESF/Valanora
    Quakmybush

(how's that for starters?)
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Baptism of Fire 44 (w/Mangolana); World Baseball Classics 1, 4, 5, 10, 13 and 23; World Cup of Hockey 7 and 14; World Bowls IV & IX; IBC X; Baptism of Iron III and VIII; NSCAA Tourney II, III (conferences/regionals), The OXEN Cup; the TOUR de QAZOX, Qazoxian Sports Festival and NS X-Games/Winter X-Games I.
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Postby Secristan » Fri May 29, 2009 3:17 pm

It's ok for the most part. Point #4 of the rights and responsibilities must be changed about overruling a host's decision needing a unanimous vote from the the Council, because that will never happen because the host will be on the council and if they need to overrule themselves then why didn't they just change whatever it was before the vote would be held. Simply saying the hosts vote wouldn't be counted fixes this provision up.

Why is Kura-Pelland on this council? I respect his opinions but I have not seen him in one WBC that I've been in, and this is my fifth.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Sarzonia » Fri May 29, 2009 6:09 pm

Right now, NO ONE is on the council since no one has officially begun the voting process. Since this constitution or rules system hasn't been voted on yet, we don't have a council at the moment. Thus, Kura-Pelland is not on this council since it actually doesn't exist yet.

The case I'd make in favour of Kura-Pelland is the fact that his player has been involved in the NS sporting scene for a LONG time. His involvement there predated my founding Sarzonia back in 2004. However, the more compelling argument to me is against his being a member of the council since he hasn't been heavily involved with this sport in the past few Classics.

I'm honoured to be considered for the Council, and would be more than willing to take part in it if I'm elected. Though I must also point out that my involvement is at the bare minimum needed for Council eligibility as currently being discussed.

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Postby Qazox » Fri May 29, 2009 9:53 pm

Secristan wrote:It's ok for the most part. Point #4 of the rights and responsibilities must be changed about overruling a host's decision needing a unanimous vote from the the Council, because that will never happen because the host will be on the council and if they need to overrule themselves then why didn't they just change whatever it was before the vote would be held. Simply saying the hosts vote wouldn't be counted fixes this provision up.

Why is Kura-Pelland on this council? I respect his opinions but I have not seen him in one WBC that I've been in, and this is my fifth.


K-P has participated in the WBC since WBC 5 and was an involved RPer early on.

As to point #4. Re-reading that. It doesn't make sense. That's why I'm asking for suggestions to improve the WBC Council portion and for the WBC Constitution.

And Sarzonia, that's why I prohibitively put you on the list.

As I have said before, I'm just throwing out ideas, and asking for honest opinions about them.

As for the inaugural Council, I'd prefer that the nations that are most active in the WBC vote yay/nay for each of the PROVISIONAL MEMBERS and the Possible Council members.

Other than GREEN WOMBAT (who is not going to return, see the WCDT) the only nays I see are:
Lovisa (they sign up and don't RP), Quakmy bush (as they haven't been an active member in a while) and Az-cz as they are CTE (i think) or no longer interested in RPing. ESF is a yay to me, though they haven't participated in a bit.
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Qualified for World Cups 31, 33, 35-50, 54-59, 61, 62. Runners-up: CoH 52
Baptism of Fire 44 (w/Mangolana); World Baseball Classics 1, 4, 5, 10, 13 and 23; World Cup of Hockey 7 and 14; World Bowls IV & IX; IBC X; Baptism of Iron III and VIII; NSCAA Tourney II, III (conferences/regionals), The OXEN Cup; the TOUR de QAZOX, Qazoxian Sports Festival and NS X-Games/Winter X-Games I.
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Postby Newmanistan » Sat May 30, 2009 11:11 am

Now complete:
Newmanistan Baseball Wiki: http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Newmanistan_Baseball (Going to eventually make some individual player pages)
Wiki devoted to Newmanistan domination of Taeshan: http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=You_Can't_Beat_Us!
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CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Cassadaigua » Sat May 30, 2009 2:28 pm

*coughs*

I have, you know, been in this since WBC 9. 8)
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Postby Qazox » Sat May 30, 2009 9:22 pm

Cassadaigua wrote:*coughs*

I have, you know, been in this since WBC 9. 8)


True, and in the 3 WBC's you have participated in, you have been a very active participant and as such, I forgot to put your name on the list. :palm: :oops: You definitely need to be on there,
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Postby Zwangzug » Sun May 31, 2009 11:44 am

Qazox wrote:IF there is enough sign-ups (meaning at least 20..) the a qualification round would be in order with the top 8 ranked teams automatically qualified, and the remainder of the teams would battle until we got a total of 16 teams for the WBC. 4 groups of 4, seeded, and the top team from each group advancing to the WBC semifinals.
Why? Shouldn't this be up to the hosts?

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Postby Qazox » Sun May 31, 2009 7:51 pm

Zwangzug wrote:
Qazox wrote:IF there is enough sign-ups (meaning at least 20..) the a qualification round would be in order with the top 8 ranked teams automatically qualified, and the remainder of the teams would battle until we got a total of 16 teams for the WBC. 4 groups of 4, seeded, and the top team from each group advancing to the WBC semifinals.
Why? Shouldn't this be up to the hosts?


That's the type of thing we need to discuss!

Most likely YES it would be up to the host, pending on whether or not they wanted to do so.
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Postby Tocrowkia » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:11 am

I agree. Such things should be left to the hosts.
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Postby Delaclava » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:48 am

Don't mean to be possibly ignorant, but what are the plans for when the next WBC will be held?
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Tocrowkia » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:59 am

I think Qazox said something about July, maybe around the time of the All-Star Break.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Zwangzug » Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:31 pm

That night they scored the winning run/They dreamed about a rising sun/Oh, oh, oh/Why dream when you've already won?
Congratulations to Tocrowkia on its WBC 11 championship! And here are your new rankings; as always, hosts should only use as many decimals as they want but the copy-and-paste is easier this way. :p
1. Newmanistan 5.2142857
2. Tocrowkia 5.1309524
3. Zwangzug 4.3904762
4. Qazox 4.0357143
5. Secristan 3.6619048
6. Taeshan 3.2976190
7. Sarzonia 2.9047619
8. Liventia 2.5404762
9. Cassadaigua 2.4976190
10. Milchama 2.1166667
11. Yafor 2 1.6190476
12. Green wombat 1.2333333
13. Lovisa 1.1523810
14. Steroga 0.9523810
Dancougar 0.9523810
16. Prux 0.8500000
17. Vephrall 0.7619048
18. Bluth Corporation 0.7500000
19. Mallatarsland 0.5714286
Norwellia 0.5714286
Quintessence of Dust 0.5714286
22. kenavt 0.3000000
Colbourne 0.3000000
San Castello 0.3000000
25. Rennidan 0.2500000
26. Cookesland 0.2000000
Tree Hugging Lesbians 0.2000000
28. Mantwenic 0.1904762
Achtervolging 0.1904762
The Bye 0.1904762
31. Greal 0.1000000
Lurikastan 0.1000000
Patetopia 0.1000000
34. Rainere 0.0833333

The top two teams (and WBC 11 finalists) won equally many games in the two most recent tournaments; they're separated by their WBC9 performance, in which Newmanistan won just one more game overall!

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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Tocrowkia » Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:39 pm

Thank you, Zwangzug. :) And are those lyrics at the top of your post just a coincidence, or did you actually click the link I had in my post and find that just for me? :blush:

As for the council voting process:

Qazox Yes. President of the WBC, after all.
Liventia Yes. Hosted twice, and participated in all the WBC's I've been in...I think.
Milchama Abstain. He's won two titles, but didn't even post a roster in WBC 11 and made like only one post in the 10th.
Taeshan Yes. Frequent participant and RPer.
Zwangzug Yes. Same as above
Newmanistan Yes. Same as above.
Tocrowkia I can't vote for my self.
Sarzonia Yes, has become a frequent addition to the Classic.
Secristan Yes. Same as above.
Vephrall ....I abstain. I didn't really see him RP much, but I might have missed it.
Yafor II Abstain. Doesn't RP too frequently.
Kura-Pelland Sure.
Cassadaigua Yes.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Qazox » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:15 pm

Delaclava wrote:Don't mean to be possibly ignorant, but what are the plans for when the next WBC will be held?


Like Tocrowkia said, I'd like to have it start around July 14th (the ASG in St. Louis). So sign-ups most likely begin in about 3 weeks, maybe less, if there is enough serious disscussion to begin earlier.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Qazox » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:17 pm

Tocrowkia wrote:...


Well, Tocrowkia, offically, YOU can vote for yourself, nothign says you can't. And I'm just the defacto president, since I took over WBC 1 from Amrican Fist who either CTE'd or lost interest. Offically, NO ONE is the WBC President, though I think I have done a good job of it.


AS for voting on who should/shouldn't be in the WBC Council, so far, just yourself and myself have voted so far. I would like to see at a mininum, all nominated nations vote on it.


QAZOX' offical vote for WBC Council:
CURRENT PROVISIONAL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL:
(Pending Approval)

Qazox - (abstain due impartiality issues)
Liventia- YES
Milchama- YES
Taeshan YES
Zwangzug YES
Newmanistan YES
Tocrowkia YES
Sarzonia YES
Secristan YES
Vephrall YES
Yafor II YES
Kura-Pelland YES
(These 3 nations could RP a bit more, but they are veterans of NS Sports overall and would be an asset in any organization)
Cassadaigua YES

(Possible Council members pending retrurn or approval:)

Az-cz: NO (been gone too long)
Green Wombat NO (inactive)
Lovisa NO (doesn't post)
ESF/Valanora NOT YET (I would like them to be on it though, if they'd paticipate more)
Quakmybush NO (been gone too long)

If Dancougar comes back for WBC 12, he'd probably be the next one on the Council.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Quintessence of Dust » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:03 pm

Qazox wrote:If Dancougar comes back for WBC 12, he'd probably be the next one on the Council.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Dancougar » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:15 pm

Qazox wrote:If Dancougar comes back for WBC 12, he'd probably be the next one on the Council


Given that Newmanistan called me out and I never got to play him, I guuueesssssss I should...

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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Newmanistan » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:29 pm

Dancougar wrote:
Qazox wrote:If Dancougar comes back for WBC 12, he'd probably be the next one on the Council


Given that Newmanistan called me out and I never got to play him, I guuueesssssss I should...



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Basketball? Might be a while.
Baseball?

You need something that you can work yourself to the top too. You're already there in pretty much everything else. Go for it.
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Re: World Baseball Classic Disscussion Thread

Postby Dancougar » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:58 pm

Oh, there's no doubt that I'll be back. Just gotta invent some more eccentric players to torture Schwartz.
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