Why would god hate an athiest?

by **Archnar** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:12 am

People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

by **Lunatic Goofballs** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:16 am

Apparently there's a tiny voice inside your head that tells you to do what the guys in funny clothes and even funnier hats tell you to do; especially to take their special book as absolute 100% irrefutable fact.

If you don't listen to that tiny voice, you are doomed for all eternity. *nod*

Note: The guys in funny hats and funnier clothes aren't clowns. More's the pity.

by **Farnhamia** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:17 am

Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

It happens because you're supposed to believe in him without evidence. Faith and all that, don't you know. See, all the evidence you need is that Yahweh says he's the One True and Only God (that is whom we're discussing, right, the god of Abraham?).

by **Gauntleted Fist** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:21 am

Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

Because you deserve it for not having faith in him.

by **The Archregimancy** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:22 am

Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell. This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

Who are these 'people'?

Your premise assumes a Protestant theological viewpoint, particularly an evangelical Protestant one. While prominently vocalised in cetain American debates, this is - globally - a minority perspective in Christianity.

The Orthodox and Catholic majority would not assume that an atheist is automatically 'going to hell', largely for the reasons you outline - though the principle of universal salvation is more fully developed within Orthodoxy than in Catholicism.

by **Ecans** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:22 am

I believe that you confuse hatred and indifference. What heaven? What hell?

Indeed, what evidence?

by **Pieman City** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:23 am

He doesn't hate anyone.

And really, you only go to hell if you were a bad person. You can not beleive in God and still have large a chance of going to heaven.

Common misconception really. Wouldn't make much sense for an Atheist who is friendly and helpful to all those around them, who does good and is a good person to go to hell over someone who said "I beleive in God", went to church sometimes and was generally a dick.

by **Sverige** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:24 am

I do not believe in the "magical sky-daddy"; the idea is just to preposterous!
But if he existed, and planned it all from the beginning, maybe he wanted me to be an atheist. Who are the Christians to challenge his wisdom?

So, there.

PS. The irony with ~~the weird hollywood cult that kills dissidents~~ Scientology ad below is just perfect. DS

by **Pieman City** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:25 am

Sverige wrote:I do not believe in the "magical sky-daddy"; the idea is just to preposterous!
But if he existed, and planned it all from the beginning, maybe he wanted me to be an atheist. Who are the Christians to challenge his wisdom?

So, there.

Exactly true.

Which is why Catholicism isn't against homosexuality. Or atheists.

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by **JuNii** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:28 am

Its about who follows the rules and who doesn't. who hasn't heard this "fatherly" line, Do your homework or there's no desert". one child does his homework and the other doesn't. so one child gets ice cream while the other doesn't. does that mean that the father "hates" the child that didn't do his homework?

by **Sverige** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am

Pieman City wrote:
Sverige wrote:I do not believe in the "magical sky-daddy"; the idea is just to preposterous!
But if he existed, and planned it all from the beginning, maybe he wanted me to be an atheist. Who are the Christians to challenge his wisdom?

So, there.

Exactly true.

Which is why Catholicism isn't against homosexuality. Or atheists.

You are hilarious!

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by **Mr Bananagrabber** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am

Preface: I am not a christian. This is my understanding based on listening to their conversations.

I think it's not so much that God is sending people to hell, it's more that people are removing themselves from God through sin. It's important to drop the idea that hell is a place of fire and brimstone where you get punished for eternity and think of it more as just a state completely devoid of God's presence (I think the catechism dropped all mentions of hell being a place of fire back in the '50s). So through sin (which supposedly we all do) we distance ourselves from God, but through faith and prayer or whatever we can ask God to save us.

Personally, I'm not too crash hot on the idea of spending eternity in God's presence. He seems like a bit of a nob.

by **Cameroi** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am

i believe god loves atheists more then anybody else, because they are not constantly telling lies about it.

by **Chinese Regions** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am

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by **Sanguinthium** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:29 am

Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

Smart. the church only exists to make you miserable

The Archregimancy wrote:
Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell. This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

Who are these 'people'?

Your premise assumes a Protestant theological viewpoint, particularly an evangelical Protestant one. While prominently vocalised in cetain American debates, this is - globally - a minority perspective in Christianity.

The Orthodox and Catholic majority would not assume that an atheist is automatically 'going to hell', largely for the reasons you outline - though the principle of universal salvation is more fully developed within Orthodoxy than in Catholicism.

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

3) Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

by **The Anglo-Saxon Empire** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:32 am

Archnar wrote:People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

The whole point of faith is believing without solid proof, if you need solid proof to believe than you are going to hell. How hard is it to grasp? Also if I was god I would send most atheists to hell regardless of religion since most atheists online at least come across as pretentious assholes. Just a note, I am an atheist and I am a self admitted asshole, but I am not pretentious about my lack of religion.

by **Pieman City** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:32 am

Sverige wrote:
Pieman City wrote:
Exactly true.

Which is why Catholicism isn't against homosexuality. Or atheists.

You are hilarious!

I don't see what's so funny about the truth.

by **Baltenstein** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:32 am

Is there a specific reason why "atheist" is so often misspelled as "athiest" on NSG?

by **Chinese Regions** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:32 am

"And there will come a time when God seeks out His fellow heathens. Glory awaits them in the highest of Kingdoms."
~Leroy 10:8
(Rejected at the Council of Nicea)

Great words

by **Mr Bananagrabber** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:34 am

Baltenstein wrote:Is there a specific reason why "atheist" is so often misspelled as "athiest" on NSG?

I guess they're trying to turn it into the superlative. :lol:

by **Sanguinthium** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:34 am

Pieman City wrote:
Sverige wrote: You are hilarious!

I don't see what's so funny about the truth.

are you kidding?

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

by **Chinese Regions** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:35 am

Mr Bananagrabber wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:Is there a specific reason why "atheist" is so often misspelled as "athiest" on NSG?

I guess they're trying to turn it into the superlative.

Win

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