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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:07 am

Zissi wrote:10 hours ago: Zissi was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".

The Free Land of Zissi is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its museums and concert halls.. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 569 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like


The legalization of prostitution has been a disaster for the free lands of Zissi. The laws ending the ban on prostitution and any regulations on it have effectivly destroyed our social safety net and and forced poorer citizens into prostitution as well as causing a massive increase in trafficing. While we respect the rights of other nations to legalize it if they with in their own borders we do not feel it is appropriate for this body to force it's legalization on the rest of us (though less intrusive resolution on trafficing would certainly be welcome). As a result our parliament has voted to leave the WA.


Your not in the WA buh-bye.

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Zissi
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Postby Zissi » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:21 am

Dilange wrote:
Zissi wrote:10 hours ago: Zissi was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".

The Free Land of Zissi is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its museums and concert halls.. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 569 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like


The legalization of prostitution has been a disaster for the free lands of Zissi. The laws ending the ban on prostitution and any regulations on it have effectivly destroyed our social safety net and and forced poorer citizens into prostitution as well as causing a massive increase in trafficing. While we respect the rights of other nations to legalize it if they with in their own borders we do not feel it is appropriate for this body to force it's legalization on the rest of us (though less intrusive resolution on trafficing would certainly be welcome). As a result our parliament has voted to leave the WA.


Your not in the WA buh-bye.


Nope not anymore......

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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:26 am

Zissi wrote:
Dilange wrote:
Your not in the WA buh-bye.


Cool bye, you got sad due to legislation and left. Oh well.

Nope not anymore......

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Postby RB Rebecca Black » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:29 am

I never knew something this simple could cause so much controversy. It is only in the interest of women and their bodies.
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Postby Suidwes-Afrika » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:00 am

RB Rebecca Black wrote:I never knew something this simple could cause so much controversy. It is only in the interest of women and their bodies.


It was not passed in the interests of women, RB. It was passed to encourage vices and the exploitation of women in the name of promoting civil rights. There is a time when a nation must draw the line and say, "So far and no further." While I'm all for civil rights and sexual privacy, I draw the line when prostitution is about to legalized, the same practice that was specifically banned in my nation just a year ago as part of an overall health program designed to combat our HIV epidemic.
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Postby Lestaria and Neuchies » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:14 am

Zissi wrote:10 hours ago: Zissi was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".

The Free Land of Zissi is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its museums and concert halls.. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 569 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like


The legalization of prostitution has been a disaster for the free lands of Zissi. The laws ending the ban on prostitution and any regulations on it have effectivly destroyed our social safety net and and forced poorer citizens into prostitution as well as causing a massive increase in trafficing. While we respect the rights of other nations to legalize it if they with in their own borders we do not feel it is appropriate for this body to force it's legalization on the rest of us (though less intrusive resolution on trafficing would certainly be welcome). As a result our parliament has voted to leave the WA.


You do realize the WA has nothing to do with that, correct? A nation's reclassification comes solely from their own choices on issues that pop up from within their own citizenry. If you're now classified as something else, then that's your own doing. Because Lestaria and Neuchies, before this proposal passed, was a "Left-Leaning College State," and has since gone on to remain classified as such past it, only to be changed to an "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" very recently after a choice that was made by our government on an issue unrelated to this resolution.

However, since such a knee-jerk reaction seems to be the norm for the losing side of this bill, I doubt that crossed your mind. As much as I doubt you'll bother to read this, if your mention of leaving the WA actually holds any truth.

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Zissi
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Postby Zissi » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:22 am

The re-classification happened just as I got a telegram stating that this resolution went into effect. Since I hadn't answered any issues for the previous 24 hrs I can't see what else caused this....

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Postby Alqania » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:23 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Dilange wrote:Well this passed, Im not going to follow it and neither is my country or people.

Darenjo wrote:We will add this soon-to-be resolution to the "No Enforcement Allowed" list.

The Republic of Lanos wrote:We will not leave the WA but ignore and not enforce this shit in Lanos. Freedom over tyranny.

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Ms. Harper has written in to confirm that Charlotte Ryberg has officially violated the said resolution.

Windica wrote:The Far-Reaching Holy Empire of Windica has done likewie.

Then I'm sure none of you will have difficulty locating the "resign" button, provided for your convenience at the very top of the WA page. Because it is laughably pointless to willingly associate your nation with an organization whose entire existence is predicated on the assumption that members will do what it tells them when you never had any intention of doing so. There's no cause for debating proposals, striving to improve them, strenuously objecting to them, trying to repeal them, hunting for loopholes to avoid outright defiance, or even complaining that the entire operation serves to erode sovereignty, if everything that passes here is essentially meaningless. Not to mention it's just shitty player etiquette to ignore the professional courtesy you owe to your fellow authors (who don't want their resolutions nullified any more than you would yours) and/or members who, unlike yourselves, joined this outfit in good faith.

But hey, yeah, apparently you all are "roleplayers" now! Good for you! 8)


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In regards to Alqanian policy, we are simply exploiting the many loopholes in this deeply flawed and ill written resolution to keep things as they are. This resolution did not really have any effect, if one knows how to implement creative solutions."


Lord Raekevik chose his last words carefully and offered a smile to the Kennyite delegation.
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Zissi
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Postby Zissi » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:27 am

Can't see how the reclassification was caused by an issue.....

77 minutes ago: Zissi resigned from the World Assembly.
12 hours ago: Zissi was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".
1 day 19 hours ago: Zissi voted for the World Assembly Resolution "Commend Glen-Rhodes".
2 days 4 hours ago: Zissi voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Legalizing Prostitution".
3 days 12 hours ago: Following new legislation in Zissi, schoolchildren have twice-weekly sex education classes.

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Alqania
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Postby Alqania » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:30 am

Zissi wrote:Can't see how the reclassification was caused by an issue.....

77 minutes ago: Zissi resigned from the World Assembly.
12 hours ago: Zissi was reclassified from "New York Times Democracy" to "Corporate Bordello".
1 day 19 hours ago: Zissi voted for the World Assembly Resolution "Commend Glen-Rhodes".
2 days 4 hours ago: Zissi voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Legalizing Prostitution".
3 days 12 hours ago: Following new legislation in Zissi, schoolchildren have twice-weekly sex education classes.


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Your interpretation that the reclassification was caused by the passing of this proposal could be correct. When a proposal passes, the stats change and when the stats change, the WA category may or may not change. I don't know how anyone would come to any other conclusion.
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Shadowlandistan
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Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:48 am

Shadowlandistan is pleased to see this proposal pass in the World Assembly. Prohibition, as a whole, brings more violence, eliminates regulation, and significantly increases the power of the black market.
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Postby Adamarctica-Oz » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:28 pm

The Ambassador Salura stands to the microphone, opens her notepad and starts to speak

Honored members of the Assembly, Adamarctica-Oz is pleased to see this bill come to pass. The sexual black market allows international organised crime to flourish. While the Wizard-Empire accepts the moral objections of our fellow assembly members we believe that criminalization of what is already a large hidden industry only leads to the exploitation of young men and women, often foreign, for the benefit of gangsters.

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Lorigahistan
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Age of consent modification?

Postby Lorigahistan » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:15 pm

The resolution as passed makes it illegal to prevent any sapient being from becoming a prostitute. Can we get a modification such that it has an age of consent waiver on the "shall not prohibit any sapient being" clause?

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Postby Quelesh » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:19 pm

Lorigahistan wrote:The resolution as passed makes it illegal to prevent any sapient being from becoming a prostitute. Can we get a modification such that it has an age of consent waiver on the "shall not prohibit any sapient being" clause?


That's already covered by GAR4.
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Postby The New Vegas Strip » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:00 pm

Suidwes-Afrika wrote:
RB Rebecca Black wrote:I never knew something this simple could cause so much controversy. It is only in the interest of women and their bodies.


It was not passed in the interests of women, RB. It was passed to encourage vices and the exploitation of women in the name of promoting civil rights. There is a time when a nation must draw the line and say, "So far and no further." While I'm all for civil rights and sexual privacy, I draw the line when prostitution is about to legalized, the same practice that was specifically banned in my nation just a year ago as part of an overall health program designed to combat our HIV epidemic.


it was passed in favor of women. Women and men have a choice, they can now sell themselves for sex. Gone are the days of fat, STD-ridden whores standing out on street corners while shady men pay them $$$. Now, we aim to improve the sex industry by directly screening for health issues, enduring the workers are paid well, and treated as human-beings.

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:18 pm

The New Vegas Strip wrote:
Suidwes-Afrika wrote:
It was not passed in the interests of women, RB. It was passed to encourage vices and the exploitation of women in the name of promoting civil rights. There is a time when a nation must draw the line and say, "So far and no further." While I'm all for civil rights and sexual privacy, I draw the line when prostitution is about to legalized, the same practice that was specifically banned in my nation just a year ago as part of an overall health program designed to combat our HIV epidemic.


it was passed in favor of women. Women and men have a choice, they can now sell themselves for sex. Gone are the days of fat, STD-ridden whores standing out on street corners while shady men pay them $$$. Now, we aim to improve the sex industry by directly screening for health issues, enduring the workers are paid well, and treated as human-beings.

All of which you could have done before this passed.

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Postby Darenjo » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:54 pm

:palm:

"Biggest. Loophole. Ever..."

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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:56 pm

Lorigahistan wrote:The resolution as passed makes it illegal to prevent any sapient being from becoming a prostitute. Can we get a modification such that it has an age of consent waiver on the "shall not prohibit any sapient being" clause?

Well there is a previous law preventing people from having sex with a minor.
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Re: [Passed] Legalizing Prostitution

Postby Xanthal » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:36 pm

The Federation, for reasons already made clear in the previous debate on this matter, opposes the resolution, and hopes for its repeal. However, Xanthal agrees with the Kennyite ambassador in that we take our obligations to the World Assembly very seriously. It is our intent to comply in good faith with Legalizing Prostitution as quickly as the appropriate institutions can be put in place to do so in a manner consistent with the best interests of sex workers, their clients, and the communities in which they operate.
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Postby Suidwes-Afrika » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:31 pm

For the time being, the Suidwes-Afrikan Parliament will put the issue on hold. While acknowledging prostitution's legal status in the state, this status in question, although officially in place, has been temporarily suspended with the rights we have as a sovereign government. Proper regulations for the industry and numerous loopholes to be exploited will be discussed in the coming months.

Until then, consider it de-facto illegal here.
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Postby The Eternal Kawaii » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:57 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Lorigahistan wrote:The resolution as passed makes it illegal to prevent any sapient being from becoming a prostitute. Can we get a modification such that it has an age of consent waiver on the "shall not prohibit any sapient being" clause?

Well there is a previous law preventing people from having sex with a minor.


Why stop there? We are sure the esteemed ambassador could pass a resolution legalizing child prostitution under the banner of protecting the civil rights of children.
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Postby Peoples Republic of CahmkhatiKa » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:06 pm

This is an outrage!!!! My nation will not stand for such a rediculous proposition as being FORCED to legalize prostitution and as such RESIGN, effective immediately, from this sham you call a "World Assembly"
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:30 am

Suidwes-Afrika wrote:Proper regulations for the industry and numerous loopholes to be exploited will be discussed in the coming months.

Until then, consider it de-facto illegal here.


Loopholes? We are having an interesting discussion about them with regard to Charlotte Ryberg's proposal.

Please consider yourself de-facto breaking the law. (The international law).
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Postby Maroza » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:32 pm

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Postby Flibbleites » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:20 pm

Maroza wrote:The Holy Empire of Maroza wishes to inform the WA that we are leaving. We will not be a part of the corrupt authoritarian organization any more.

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