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Turkey Preparing for War with Israel

Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:30 pm

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=236578

"Israel will no longer be able to exercise its bullying practices freely,” a Turkish diplomatic source tells a local newspaper.


The Turkish Navy will bolster its presence in the eastern Mediterranean Sea to prevent Israeli operations, Turkish officials said over the weekend, as the crisis between Jerusalem and Ankara intensified following the publication of the Palmer Report on last year’s flotilla conflict.

“A more aggressive strategy will be pursued. Israel will no longer be able to exercise its bullying practices freely,” a Turkish diplomatic source was quoted as saying in the Hurriyet Daily News. The source said that the navy would accompany ships bringing aid to the Gaza Strip.
Turkey has threatened to deploy its navy to accompany aid ships to the Gaza Strip in the past.
Meanwhile, as ties with Turkey continue to deteriorate, Israel is bolstering its ties with Greece. Greece and Israel have strengthened defense ties in recent years and both air forces have held a number of joint drills in Greece over the past year.


This is not going to end well or peacefully.

It certainly sounds like Turkey is gearing up for a war against Israel and will start it by attacking Israeli ships enforcing a justified blockade of a region under the control of a known international terrorist organization whose only goal is the death of civilians for the crime of being Jewish.


all this because Turkey wants to defend violent criminals and terrorists.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:33 pm

Well the US would be stuck in a quandry. NATO vs. Israel. If Israel attacked, legally the US would have to fight Israel because Turkey is NATO.

Turkey attacks Israel? US would take Israel's side. Or not. Obama's stance on Israel make the Israelis skeptical if he would bring the US to their side during another Arab invasion. The US would have to choose which nation to lose if both fight each other.

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Postby Neo Avon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:34 pm

For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.
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Postby Almaniania » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:36 pm

Oh lord... the whole military drama thing again.
Obviously, everyone is gonna be all bark and no bite. Before a possible war breaks out, both sides are gonna back down.
The likelihood of an actual war is slim. They may hate each other... but both of them have little to gain and everything to lose by going to war.
It'll die down.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:37 pm

If Turkey would go to war against Israel I doubt it would even last seven days this time around.

Most likely this will just intensify the situation more, I don't see the war flag raised just yet, albeit, if any conflict does arise, it will be easy to determine what side Turkey will take. Regardless, Israel is more powerful and militarily competent than what it ever was. Turkey narrowly avoid a coup only a few years ago. If a conflict ensues, it will not be a pretty sight.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:37 pm

Neo Avon wrote:For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.


Well Israel could be subjected to another Holocaust. We all know what happened to the Jews in the last one... Don't want another one.

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Postby Prometheos » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:37 pm

Neo Avon wrote:For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.

*gets its* ass kicked.

Oppression? Pfft. Give me a break.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:38 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Well the US would be stuck in a quandry. NATO vs. Israel. If Israel attacked, legally the US would have to fight Israel because Turkey is NATO.

Turkey attacks Israel? US would take Israel's side. Or not. Obama's stance on Israel make the Israelis skeptical if he would bring the US to their side during another Arab invasion. The US would have to choose which nation to lose if both fight each other.

Or we could do what we did in the Falklands War. Two allies go to war. Both are important to us so we stay neutral.
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Postby Neo Avon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:40 pm

Prometheos wrote:
Neo Avon wrote:For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.

*gets its* ass kicked.

Oppression? Pfft. Give me a break.


That's your opinion. I'm stating mine. At this point any rhetoric isn't going to help, so let's stay on topic, mk?

Again, I doubt war will happen, but if it does, I just want to see a swarm of turkish infantry storming the shores of israel.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:42 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Well the US would be stuck in a quandry. NATO vs. Israel. If Israel attacked, legally the US would have to fight Israel because Turkey is NATO.

Turkey attacks Israel? US would take Israel's side. Or not. Obama's stance on Israel make the Israelis skeptical if he would bring the US to their side during another Arab invasion. The US would have to choose which nation to lose if both fight each other.


Turkey is currently threatening to breach the sea-borders Israel have with military grade ships. Nato is not obliged to aid member states that goes on the attack. It is highly unlikely that even if a new middle eastern/israeli conflict took place, that Nato would even intervene for the arabic states even if Turkey was attacked.

The more important question however would be Russia's position in all of this. They have opposed every sanction so far, and it is not unthinkable that they would want to remove a western sphere by force.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:42 pm

Herskerstad wrote:If Turkey would go to war against Israel I doubt it would even last seven days this time around.

Most likely this will just intensify the situation more, I don't see the war flag raised just yet, albeit, if any conflict does arise, it will be easy to determine what side Turkey will take. Regardless, Israel is more powerful and militarily competent than what it ever was. Turkey narrowly avoid a coup only a few years ago. If a conflict ensues, it will not be a pretty sight.

Not to mention that Turkey has upset Iraq by continually invading Iraq for the purpose of committing genocide against the Kurds. Iran is upset with Turkey because Turkey has been threatening to launch an invasion of Syria in the name of NATO to support anti-Assad rebels. Iran apparently has said if that happens, Iran will go to war against Turkey.

That's according to

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/aug20 ... -a27.shtml
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Postby Tihr » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:44 pm

Neo Avon wrote:For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.


"We live in a world of diplomatic infants and nuclear giants."
Come now. You must know full well that the moment the Israelis back down an inch, the surrounding countries will be at them like sharks in a frenzy. I would rather have a few blown up border incidents than a full-scale holocaust.

It's why Israel has taken the shape of this (talk softly, carry a big stick)sort of nation. Anything short of it would mean destruction.
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Postby Casta Nal » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:45 pm

Turkey and Israel are military, political, and economic heavyweights.
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Postby Wilgrove » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:46 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Well the US would be stuck in a quandry. NATO vs. Israel. If Israel attacked, legally the US would have to fight Israel because Turkey is NATO.

Turkey attacks Israel? US would take Israel's side. Or not. Obama's stance on Israel make the Israelis skeptical if he would bring the US to their side during another Arab invasion. The US would have to choose which nation to lose if both fight each other.


Why should the USA get involved at all? Israel has proven that it can hold it's own. If they want to go to war, then let them. We (USA) have no business in it.

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Postby Casta Nal » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:47 pm

The Israel thing is more complicated then Side A is evil and Side B is right. It is combination of both sides being quite gray.
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Postby Neo Avon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:47 pm

Tihr wrote:
Neo Avon wrote:For Ataturk and Turkey!

Krieg Krieg Krieg Krieg!

But in a less half-assed nationalistic mood, I hope Israel get's it's ass kicked militarily to see what oppression feels like. I will not condone any civilian deaths.


"We live in a world of diplomatic infants and nuclear giants."
Come now. You must know full well that the moment the Israelis back down an inch, the surrounding countries will be at them like sharks in a frenzy. I would rather have a few blown up border incidents than a full-scale holocaust.

It's why Israel has taken the shape of this (talk softly, carry a big stick)sort of nation. Anything short of it would mean destruction.


All the more reason to give some entertainment to the rest of the world. See how Israel deals with a full blown military instead of rock throwing palestinians, damn hypocrites. Just to see how badly the Israeli military gets raped would be worth it.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:47 pm

What would be interesting is if Turkey does attack the Israeli navy. To get troops to Israel it would have to move through Syria. This would, ironically, bring Iran into the war on the side of Israel.

How many people can see that happening? It happened with the UK and France, long time bitter enemies, when they ended up on the same side in World War 1 and World War 2.

Then if Greece chooses to get involved to end Turkey interfering in Cyprus, you then have a classic pincer movement:
Greece from the west
Israel Syria from the South
Iraq and Iran from the east.
Perhaps Russia from the North since Turkey is closer to Russia than Israel and more of a threat than Israel is.

Turkey can only lose if it starts a major war in the region. Especially since it is highly unlikely the US or Europe will support a war of aggression in the name of defending a terrorist organization.
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Postby Galonica » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:49 pm

The Turks are preparing for war with Syria due to the massacres there. Over 1,000,000 Syrian refugees in Turkey in a few weeks, not to mention Turks on the border can see Syrian military massacre refugees heading for the border. Either way, I think Turkey would win because they have a stockpile of weapons, they're NATO, and the Israelis are going in the same direction the Nazis did with them as they are going with the Arabs. It's genocide over there.
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Postby Drakon-Qan » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:49 pm

Turkey and Israel won't go to war. Turkey doesn't want to lose that friendship.

It'd also absolutely murder any chances it has in the EU.

Though the Greek alliance by Israel might piss them off enough. They despise Greece.
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Postby Neo Avon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:50 pm

UnitedStatesOfAmerica- wrote:What would be interesting is if Turkey does attack the Israeli navy. To get troops to Israel it would have to move through Syria. This would, ironically, bring Iran into the war on the side of Israel.

How many people can see that happening? It happened with the UK and France, long time bitter enemies, when they ended up on the same side in World War 1 and World War 2.


I doubt it. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship, they'll never compromise with the mindset they have, much like the homicidal toaster from Fallout New Vegas.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:51 pm

Drakon-Qan wrote:Turkey and Israel won't go to war. Turkey doesn't want to lose that friendship.

It'd also absolutely murder any chances it has in the EU.

Though the Greek alliance by Israel might piss them off enough. They despise Greece.


Well they've illegally occupied/annexed the northern part of Cyprus since the 70s, which is rightfully why they shouldn't be EU. More like a war will break out there before Israel.

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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:52 pm

Casta Nal wrote:The Israel thing is more complicated then Side A is evil and Side B is right. It is combination of both sides being quite gray.

Its the kind of perfect storm that usually leads to actual wars starting.
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Postby Casta Nal » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:52 pm

Trust me, this will either end very awkwardly as usual, or very bad. Turkey will be culled back into line by the rest of NATO, and the EU should hopefully keep it from being rash. Syria is another mess which NATO supports getting into, as long as they can win without getting Iran in on this shit. Israel is once again screwing an ally over. Not a good idea, the Turks aren't that bad. This is rather a complex situation with no clear-right and wrongs.
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Neo Avon wrote:
Tihr wrote:
"We live in a world of diplomatic infants and nuclear giants."
Come now. You must know full well that the moment the Israelis back down an inch, the surrounding countries will be at them like sharks in a frenzy. I would rather have a few blown up border incidents than a full-scale holocaust.

It's why Israel has taken the shape of this (talk softly, carry a big stick)sort of nation. Anything short of it would mean destruction.


All the more reason to give some entertainment to the rest of the world. See how Israel deals with a full blown military instead of rock throwing palestinians, damn hypocrites. Just to see how badly the Israeli military gets raped would be worth it.


Bullshit. Israel has the second-best trained forces in the world, bested by only the Russian Spetsnaz. They have one of the best Air Forces in the world.

Plus, with conscription, if you include the reserves, they've got an army of about 3 million.
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Postby Neo Avon » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:54 pm

Casta Nal wrote:Trust me, this will either end very awkwardly as usual, or very bad. Turkey will be culled back into line by the rest of NATO, and the EU should hopefully keep it from being rash. Syria is another mess which NATO supports getting into, as long as they can win without getting Iran in on this shit. Israel is once again screwing an ally over. Not a good idea, the Turks aren't that bad. This is rather a complex situation with no clear-right and wrongs.


But the potential for marching formations stomping over the ruins of a theocracy.....arhghaldjfklsjdf

Cue zhe musik of das sturmtrupen!

Purdy war music......
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Must be because I heard it on these forums.

We also just frolic in the grasslands while sodomizing each other between collecting our welfare checks.

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