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Does flag burning bother you?

Yes - if it's my country's flag
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Yes - if it's any country's flag
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No
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Meh
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Flag burning - does it bother you?

Postby RoI2 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:22 am

I don't know why it bothers me, I mean it's not like I bought the flag.

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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:25 am

No. It's a piece of cloth. If it belongs to you, it's yours to do with as you please, including burning it to express your disapproval of the country or government it represents.

I really, really do not give a shit about what other people do with their flags. It seems a little pointless, but flags aren't sacred relics. Get over it.
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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:26 am

Nope.

I found it quite cute when some folks in Iran recently burned self-painted British flags. It was funny. Sad, in a way, but funny.
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Postby RoI2 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:28 am

Cabra West wrote:Nope.

I found it quite cute when some folks in Iran recently burned self-painted British flags. It was funny. Sad, in a way, but funny.

:lol2: They could atleast go to the effort of getting a real flag.
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:28 am

I'm wondering which country flag is burning the best.

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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:29 am

Cabra West wrote:Nope.

I found it quite cute when some folks in Iran recently burned self-painted British flags. It was funny. Sad, in a way, but funny.


I roll my eyes when I see it, just like I do when I see those jackasses screaming their heads off at town hall meetings. They're both pointless actions, though the latter actually bothers me a lot more because those people are disrupting the event for everyone else.
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Re: Flag burning - does it bother you?

Postby Trollgaard » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:33 am

Yes. Yes, it does.

It has always, still does, and probably will continue, spark anger, many times downright rage inside me seeing my country disrespected in such a way.

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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:35 am

RoI2 wrote:
Cabra West wrote:Nope.

I found it quite cute when some folks in Iran recently burned self-painted British flags. It was funny. Sad, in a way, but funny.

:lol2: They could atleast go to the effort of getting a real flag.


That was the sad bit... so desperate to get themselves on telly, yet unable to get their hands on a real flag anywhere. Poor sods.
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Postby RoI2 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:35 am

Trollgaard wrote:Yes. Yes, it does.

It has always, still does, and probably will continue, spark anger, many times downright rage inside me seeing my country disrespected in such a way.

Sometimes people ahve good reason. I burnt the stars and stripes over the whole Iraq thing
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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:36 am

Trollgaard wrote:Yes. Yes, it does.

It has always, still does, and probably will continue, spark anger, many times downright rage inside me seeing my country disrespected in such a way.


You know, if that's all the disrespect you've got to worry about, you live in a very happy country.
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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:36 am

Trollgaard wrote:Yes. Yes, it does.

It has always, still does, and probably will continue, spark anger, many times downright rage inside me seeing my country disrespected in such a way.


You really need to stop getting so worked up over it. It's not worth it.
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Postby RoI2 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:37 am

Cabra West wrote:
RoI2 wrote:
Cabra West wrote:Nope.

I found it quite cute when some folks in Iran recently burned self-painted British flags. It was funny. Sad, in a way, but funny.

:lol2: They could atleast go to the effort of getting a real flag.


That was the sad bit... so desperate to get themselves on telly, yet unable to get their hands on a real flag anywhere. Poor sods.

You live in Ireland, right? Have you ever seen any burning of the Union Flag
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:39 am

Well, it's better that people release their anger in burning a flag than fighting/killing each other or vandalising cars and houses.

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Postby United Russian State » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:39 am

Not if it's a western flag. :)
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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:40 am

RoI2 wrote:
Cabra West wrote:
RoI2 wrote: :lol2: They could atleast go to the effort of getting a real flag.


That was the sad bit... so desperate to get themselves on telly, yet unable to get their hands on a real flag anywhere. Poor sods.

You live in Ireland, right? Have you ever seen any burning of the Union Flag


Well, quite recently in Iran... but not live in the streets here, no.
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Postby RoI2 » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:41 am

United Russian State wrote:Not if it's a western flag. :)

How about a flag like that?
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:41 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, it's better that people release their anger in burning a flag than fighting/killing each other or vandalising cars and houses.


Ah, but the act of burning my country's flag incites the urge to fight those doing the burning.

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Postby Jalanat » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:43 am

well, my flag has been burned once, and as a patriot I felt just so much anger against them, if one man makes a mistake (geert weelders) then it's not like the entire country should be punished. what's even worse is that those flag burners got the dutch flag wrong. it was red white and purple..it's supposed to be red white and blue.
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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:43 am

Trollgaard wrote:Ah, but the act of burning my country's flag incites the urge to fight those doing the burning.


Ooh, I bet you love that feeling. I'm gonna go burn a flag right now, just for you. Enjoy.
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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:44 am

Jalanat wrote:well, my flag has been burned once, and as a patriot I felt just so much anger against them, if one man makes a mistake (geert weelders) then it's not like the entire country should be punished. what's even worse is that those flag burners got the dutch flag wrong. it was red white and purple..it's supposed to be red white and blue.


Dude, the country isn't getting fucking punished. The flag is.
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Postby St Zuriki » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:45 am

No the actual burning of the flag doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I hate patriotism on the whole (the two are linked if you think about it).

However, what does bother me is when people burn the countries flag to disrespect, threaten or aggressively try to make a point. For example, there was a comic strip that depicted "The Prophet Muhammad(sp?)" and the entire country seemed to be up in arms because a comic strip referenced their God. They were burning flags as a threat. I just wanted to say to them, get over yourselves. Do you actually REALLY care if this guy you've NEVER MET, and can't be sure he EXISTED has been drawn in a comic.

But I suppose those degenerates would burn me at the steak for saying something blasphemous like that. Because it's wrong to insult a religion. Pfft.

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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:45 am

Trollgaard wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, it's better that people release their anger in burning a flag than fighting/killing each other or vandalising cars and houses.


Ah, but the act of burning my country's flag incites the urge to fight those doing the burning.


You might want to try and get yourself above tribal impulses like that.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:45 am

Kantria wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Ah, but the act of burning my country's flag incites the urge to fight those doing the burning.


Ooh, I bet you love that feeling. I'm gonna go burn a flag right now, just for you. Enjoy.


I bet you will.

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Postby Cabra West » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:47 am

St Zuriki wrote:No the actual burning of the flag doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I hate patriotism on the whole (the two are linked if you think about it).

However, what does bother me is when people burn the countries flag to disrespect, threaten or aggressively try to make a point. For example, there was a comic strip that depicted "The Prophet Muhammad(sp?)" and the entire country seemed to be up in arms because a comic strip referenced their God. They were burning flags as a threat. I just wanted to say to them, get over yourselves. Do you actually REALLY care if this guy you've NEVER MET, and can't be sure he EXISTED has been drawn in a comic.

But I suppose those degenerates would burn me at the steak for saying something blasphemous like that. Because it's wrong to insult a religion. Pfft.


Let me get this straight... these people got upset about something symbolic. They responded by doing something symbolic themselves, and THAT upset you in turn?


Oh, the irony....
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Postby Kantria » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:47 am

St Zuriki wrote:However, what does bother me is when people burn the countries flag to disrespect, threaten or aggressively try to make a point. For example, there was a comic strip that depicted "The Prophet Muhammad(sp?)" and the entire country seemed to be up in arms because a comic strip referenced their God. They were burning flags as a threat. I just wanted to say to them, get over yourselves. Do you actually REALLY care if this guy you've NEVER MET, and can't be sure he EXISTED has been drawn in a comic.


Like I said, it's kind of dumb, but it hardly offends me. Burn all the flags you want. Saying or doing something meaningful would have more of an effect on me.
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