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Apparently, Einstein was wrong, I guess.

Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:32 pm

http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/

I recommend muting your speakers before entering that site. Okay, so the use of mathematics in physics is wrong, because it assumes that math corresponds to reality? But no, it doesn't. Evidence demonstrates that a certain mathematical structure models a physical phenomenon well and makes accurate predictions. Based on that evidence, we use that mathematical structure to model the aforementioned phenomenon. Where does "faith" in the "religion" of mathematical physics ever show up?

Also, lol at his ridiculous double helix theory of light. Apparently, before he made crackpot physics theories on the internet, he was a spy. He even has a book on Amazon and it sits at FIVE STARS! I really hope those ratings are just parody reviews, like the three wolf moon meme, but I somehow doubt it. This crank has sucked in followers.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-God-Doesnt-Ex ... 462&sr=8-1

This is borderline Timecube shit here folks.
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Postby Kalysk » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:32 pm

Seems legit.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:39 pm

I lolled.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:40 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:I lolled.


It's not funny. It's ignorance on parade.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Intellectual Pornography » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:42 pm

when was the last time I used theoretical physics for anything

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Intellectual Pornography wrote:when was the last time I used theoretical physics for anything


:palm: Your computer is based on theoretical solid state physics. Transistors make no sense classically.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Robert Magoo » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:44 pm

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Postby Galla- » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:50 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:I lolled.


It's not funny. It's ignorance on parade.


Exactly why it's funny. Derp.
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Postby Intellectual Pornography » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:51 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote: :palm: Your computer is based on theoretical solid state physics. Transistors make no sense classically.

Exactly! All they did was get me stuck in my room!
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Postby Trotskylvania » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:53 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:I lolled.


It's not funny. It's ignorance on parade.

They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics, but the fact that this man and his acolytes are professed atheists just makes it darkly comical, as their little cult seems to have missed the point of atheism.
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Postby Intellectual Pornography » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:54 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics

I'm not religious, but I am phanatic!

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Postby Periodspace » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:55 pm

Four-sided Triangles wrote:http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/

I recommend muting your speakers before entering that site. Okay, so the use of mathematics in physics is wrong, because it assumes that math corresponds to reality? But no, it doesn't. Evidence demonstrates that a certain mathematical structure models a physical phenomenon well and makes accurate predictions. Based on that evidence, we use that mathematical structure to model the aforementioned phenomenon. Where does "faith" in the "religion" of mathematical physics ever show up?

Also, lol at his ridiculous double helix theory of light. Apparently, before he made crackpot physics theories on the internet, he was a spy. He even has a book on Amazon and it sits at FIVE STARS! I really hope those ratings are just parody reviews, like the three wolf moon meme, but I somehow doubt it. This crank has sucked in followers.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-God-Doesnt-Ex ... 462&sr=8-1

This is borderline Timecube shit here folks.

I'm not sure what to think about this.

I have recently changed some political opinions, so my "pro and against" thing is still in the works.

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Postby Metanih » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:55 pm

Idiocy on parade is amusing. I don't know what you are failing to smoke to miss that.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:58 pm

:rofl:
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Postby Kirav » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:04 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
It's not funny. It's ignorance on parade.

They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics, but the fact that this man and his acolytes are professed atheists just makes it darkly comical, as their little cult seems to have missed the point of atheism.


Actually, a lot of atheists that I know get so caught up in the dogmatic elements of the New Atheism, that science is always right and religion is always wrong, that they're willing to believe anything that appears scientific. So long as something like sinewave biorhythms or ion bracelets or these pseudophysical theories that this fellow is proposing don't involve anything supernatural, they're willing to give it credence. Using scientific vocabulary and cool sciencey computer graphics has the same effect on some atheists that quoting Bible snippets out of context and claiming divine revelation has on some people of faith.

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Postby Dakini » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:04 pm

He was wrong about quantum mechanics (in that later in his career, he wasn't really a fan) and general relativity fails at quantum scales. That doesn't mean that general relativity doesn't work well on macroscopic things though.

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:08 pm

Kirav wrote:Actually, a lot of atheists that I know get so caught up in the dogmatic elements of the New Atheism, that science is always right and religion is always wrong, that they're willing to believe anything that appears scientific. So long as something like sinewave biorhythms or ion bracelets or these pseudophysical theories that this fellow is proposing don't involve anything supernatural, they're willing to give it credence. Using scientific vocabulary and cool sciencey computer graphics has the same effect on some atheists that quoting Bible snippets out of context and claiming divine revelation has on some people of faith.


Sad to say, you're correct. Atheists don't have to be smart. Atheism is rational, but that doesn't mean that atheists are.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:10 pm

Kirav wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics, but the fact that this man and his acolytes are professed atheists just makes it darkly comical, as their little cult seems to have missed the point of atheism.


Actually, a lot of atheists that I know get so caught up in the dogmatic elements of the New Atheism, that science is always right and religion is always wrong, that they're willing to believe anything that appears scientific. So long as something like sinewave biorhythms or ion bracelets or these pseudophysical theories that this fellow is proposing don't involve anything supernatural, they're willing to give it credence. Using scientific vocabulary and cool sciencey computer graphics has the same effect on some atheists that quoting Bible snippets out of context and claiming divine revelation has on some people of faith.

They're not part of a cult though, which puts them quite a bit ahead of most religious fanatics.
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Postby Dakini » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:15 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
It's not funny. It's ignorance on parade.

They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics, but the fact that this man and his acolytes are professed atheists just makes it darkly comical, as their little cult seems to have missed the point of atheism.

I like when some atheists pretend they know science well and are smarter and know science better than believers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ignostic so I fall more into the skeptical category than the believer one, but the average atheist is similar to the average person in that they don't know much at all about science. There are some scientists who are atheists, but that doesn't mean that the atheist laypersons have a better knowledge of science than the theistic laypersons.

So it really doesn't surprise me when atheists also believe stupid things.

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Postby Keronians » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:17 pm

Dakini wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:They are a tiny minority also. And one usually expects this sort of anti-science crusading from religious fanatics, but the fact that this man and his acolytes are professed atheists just makes it darkly comical, as their little cult seems to have missed the point of atheism.

I like when some atheists pretend they know science well and are smarter and know science better than believers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ignostic so I fall more into the skeptical category than the believer one, but the average atheist is similar to the average person in that they don't know much at all about science. There are some scientists who are atheists, but that doesn't mean that the atheist laypersons have a better knowledge of science than the theistic laypersons.

So it really doesn't surprise me when atheists also believe stupid things.


As a theist, I can tell you:

Atheist = rational and intelligent person

Theist = irrational, idiotic, sexist, homophobic subhuman.

*nods*

Well, I may have exaggerated a bit, but the main point is there somewhere.
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Postby Dakini » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Keronians wrote:
Dakini wrote:I like when some atheists pretend they know science well and are smarter and know science better than believers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ignostic so I fall more into the skeptical category than the believer one, but the average atheist is similar to the average person in that they don't know much at all about science. There are some scientists who are atheists, but that doesn't mean that the atheist laypersons have a better knowledge of science than the theistic laypersons.

So it really doesn't surprise me when atheists also believe stupid things.


As a theist, I can tell you:

Atheist = rational and intelligent person

Theist = irrational, idiotic, sexist, homophobic subhuman.

*nods*

Well, I may have exaggerated a bit, but the main point is there somewhere.

You didn't hear anything about elevatorgate if you don't think that atheists can't be sexist, irrational and idiotic.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:24 pm

Dakini wrote:
Keronians wrote:
As a theist, I can tell you:

Atheist = rational and intelligent person

Theist = irrational, idiotic, sexist, homophobic subhuman.

*nods*

Well, I may have exaggerated a bit, but the main point is there somewhere.

You didn't hear anything about elevatorgate if you don't think that atheists can't be sexist, irrational and idiotic.

While I'm busy resisting the urge to bury an iceaxe in my head from the stupidity that is attaching "gate" to something to denote a scandal, do you mind explaining to me what "elevatorgate" *shudders* is?
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:26 pm

Dakini wrote:I like when some atheists pretend they know science well and are smarter and know science better than believers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm ignostic so I fall more into the skeptical category than the believer one, but the average atheist is similar to the average person in that they don't know much at all about science. There are some scientists who are atheists, but that doesn't mean that the atheist laypersons have a better knowledge of science than the theistic laypersons.

So it really doesn't surprise me when atheists also believe stupid things.


Scientifically literate people are much more likely to be atheistic. That doesn't mean atheistic people are all that likely to be scientific. It's really just an avoidance of affirming the consequent.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:27 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:While I'm busy resisting the urge to bury an iceaxe in my head from the stupidity that is attaching "gate" to something to denote a scandal, do you mind explaining to me what "elevatorgate" *shudders* is?


A guy hit on Skepchic in an elevator at a weird time of the day. She then briefly mentioned it and said it made her feel uncomfortable. Afterward, the whole atheist community on Youtube blew it way the fuck out of proportion.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Seperates » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:29 pm

Such a fail...
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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