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Should it be illegal to deny the Holocaust?

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Should it be illegal to Deny the Holocaust?

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Should it be illegal to deny the Holocaust?

Postby Cyborg Holland » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:51 pm

On holiday in Berlin I found out that it is illegal to deny the Holocaust, as well as the national socialists. Germany has done well in trying not to forget its troubled past, erecting many memorials and museums to all those killed by the Nazis. NSG, what do you think?

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Postby Greater Cabinda » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:53 pm

In Germany? Yes. It's probably good for everyone that it's illegal.

However, in other countries? No. It's too good a way to spot an asshole.
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Postby Seperates » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Well, it shouldn't be illegal... but such people should be disdained and looked down upon in society as liars and ignoramuses.
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Postby Andonam » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 pm

People have the right to be stupid/.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Seperates wrote:Well, it shouldn't be illegal... but such people should be disdained and looked down upon in society as liars and ignoramuses.


Or just punched.
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Postby The unbreakable will » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:55 pm

you gotta be either really dense or made of stone to deny the holocaust.

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Postby The unbreakable will » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:56 pm

Andonam wrote:People have the right to be stupid/.

true, just type "stupid people" into youtube and you will get a few hundred fine examples
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:56 pm

In Germany? Sure. They have to live with the history and if they feel that's the way they want to go sure.......

They will probably drop the laws when a couple generations past the participants are dead.
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Postby Cyborg Holland » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:56 pm

The unbreakable will wrote:you gotta be either really dense or made of stone to deny the holocaust.


????

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Postby The unbreakable will » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:58 pm

Cyborg Holland wrote:
The unbreakable will wrote:you gotta be either really dense or made of stone to deny the holocaust.


????

either there skulls too thick to let it soak through or they really dont give a shit.

Thats basically what im saying though neither one is a good thing

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Postby Castrana » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:59 pm

I think it should be illegal but I would not want to be the one to write up that law. :meh:

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Postby Utsunomiya » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Absolutely.

I'm aware of two countries that will imprison you for denying this atrocity: Germany and the Czech Republic. Should be universal, though.
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Postby Churchilland » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:00 pm

No, everyone has the right to think what they want, no matter how stupid they are. Anyway, the Holocaust is taught in every or near enough every school in Britain so kids are learning about it.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:00 pm

The unbreakable will wrote:
Andonam wrote:People have the right to be stupid/.

true, just type "stupid people" into youtube and you will get a few hundred fine examples

I have generally found that YouTube commenters are their own kind of üntermensch.
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Postby Finium » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:00 pm

It must be illegal, it is a constant reminder to the horrible corruption brought on by power. Germany had a Reichstag, then Hitler took over and the atrocities were committed. The same can occur in any nation, the holocaust must always be remembered to warn the future that that absolute power leads to the corruption of a nation.

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Postby Gernonai » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:01 pm

In Germany, it should be illegal, but in other countries, they should decide for themselves.
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Postby Seperates » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:03 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Seperates wrote:Well, it shouldn't be illegal... but such people should be disdained and looked down upon in society as liars and ignoramuses.


Or just punched.

That too.
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Postby The unbreakable will » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:03 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
The unbreakable will wrote:true, just type "stupid people" into youtube and you will get a few hundred fine examples

I have generally found that YouTube commenters are their own kind of üntermensch.

You do realize that
A) google translator exists
B) you spelled that wrong
C)That was uncalled for
and D) You have no sense of humor, i suggest you go find one

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Postby Utsunomiya » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:03 pm

Gernonai wrote:In Germany, it should be illegal, but in other countries, they should decide for themselves.

And Poland, if you're going to pick and choose.
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Postby Finium » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:04 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Seperates wrote:Well, it shouldn't be illegal... but such people should be disdained and looked down upon in society as liars and ignoramuses.


Or just punched.

*nods sagely* those who are as thick as a fist will be punched by the fist

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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:06 pm

No, forcing somebody to believe in anything is a violation of free speech. ^.o; If somebody's too dense to realize it happened, then that's their own problem. Nobody, not even Germany, should have laws punishing for not believing it happened.

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Postby Trixiestan » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:06 pm

It should be legal to deny that the Holocaust ever happened. I mean, of course the Holocaust happened, but I see no need to start arresting people for talking out of their arses. Quite honestly, it's a pointless law anyway, even in Germany. People will just find work arounds for it, just like they found away to get around the ban on Swastikas.
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Postby The unbreakable will » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:06 pm

Finium wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Or just punched.

*nods sagely* those who are as thick as a fist will be punched by the fist

If there head's this thick, your going to need something heavier.

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Postby Finium » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:07 pm

The unbreakable will wrote:
Finium wrote:*nods sagely* those who are as thick as a fist will be punched by the fist

If there head's this thick, your going to need something heavier.

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:blink: ouch

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Postby Cyborg Holland » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:07 pm

Finium wrote:It must be illegal, it is a constant reminder to the horrible corruption brought on by power. Germany had a Reichstag, then Hitler took over and the atrocities were committed. The same can occur in any nation, the holocaust must always be remembered to warn the future that that absolute power leads to the corruption of a nation.


Germany had a Reichstag, don't you mean Reich? The Reichstag is the Government building

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