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Postby Daynor » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:45 am

I telegramed Nai a couple days ago asking if she would be greatly opposed to a commendation. This is something I always try to remember to do, as some people have such hatred of this body, and would take a commendation as an insult.

I was a little confused why Nai ignored be, but I just received a telegram back last night....
Hehe. I would never light you on fire. <3 (Well, as long as there's no awkward use of the third person plural pronoun. ;) ) And the timing... well.
You sent that telegram about 7 hours before this went up: http://s8.zetaboards.com/The_RR_and_RRA/topic/8303754/

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That news was definitely shocking, and I'm more determined to do this now than ever.

Image Commend Naivetry
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Naivetry | Proposed by: Topid

The Security Council,

Recognizing the long history of good deeds by Naivetry,

Observing Naivetry was an important leader of Equilism and member of the region's military, the E-Army, and held many positions through the region's history including foundership,

Knowing Naivetry led the return of Equilism to democracy by restoring the old constitution,

Further observing Naivetry inherited Kandarin to lead The Rejected Realms in late 2010,

Believing Naivetry led the region effectively into a period of higher activity than The Rejected Realms had experienced in years and contributed heavily toward moving the region toward a constitutional system with elections,

Acknowledging Naivetry's opposition to the destruction of communities by invaders has been constant, and that particularly during the 2009 invasion of Belgium, the campaigning of Naivetry was a major factor in the World Assembly gaining the ability to save Belgium and many other regions since from destruction,

Remembering Naivetry as the author of one Security Council resolution and as an active contributor to the Security Council during the body's beginning, helping improve the quality of resolutions,

Impressed with the efforts of Naivetry to benefit regions, especially developing regions, by distributing useful information such as:
• Educating new nations in the difficult task of building a healthy and large region,
• Teaching the basics of military tactics within NationStates to the unaware,
• Listing the regional forums,

Impressed further by Naivetry's thorough research of the Latin language, and the willingness to share that knowledge with other nations,

Hereby commends Naivetry for effectively leading major regions and for efforts to guide nations with helpful information.


Threads of note (mentioned in resolution):
Belgium
How To Build a Region
Directory of Region's Froums
Gameplay Tactics
Latin Motto Clinic

This one needs to be drafted for some time. I realize Nai has done so much for gameplay over the years, but I tried to stick to stuff that has significance to the whole game/world (starting with the obvious stuff). If there is something left out that you feel absolutely has to go in the proposal please post here.

EDIT: And once again, any World Assembly resolution authored by me is a reflection of my views as a player and not TSP. Blah blah
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:53 am

I was slowly working my way through a re-draft of OMD's version (some notes on what I was planning here). Since I've got other stuff to focus on, I'll drop it and see about making suggestions for your draft instead :P Will try and come up with some concrete ones later this week, when I'm a bit less tired.

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Postby Daynor » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:59 am

Belgium. I forgot about that, certainly an international issue.

Wow, been a long time since I logged onto those forums... :)
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:14 pm

I'll support this.
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Postby Frattastan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:20 pm

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I think the resolution could be expanded, but I agree with the concept and I will support it.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:42 pm

I'll happily support it :)
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Postby Unibot II » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:57 pm

She also ran a Latin clinic!

And "Further observing Naivetry took control of [inherited/deputed/adopted] Kandarin [and] lead The Rejected Realms [during] late 2010,"

Sounds friendlier than 'took control', she didn't annex Kandarin. :P

"Believing Naivetry lead the region effectively into a period of higher activity than The Rejected Realms had ever experienced,"
^^ Could we get some specifics, she did a lot for TRR, didn't she? (e.g., New Constitution, Ushered in Democracy)

This is a no brainer, I support. ^_^
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Postby Unibot II » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:00 pm

Also, [nation] and [region] tags were her idea, if you can get that to be R4 compliant.
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Postby Unibot II » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:39 pm

Oh and it's "led" not "lead".
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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:55 pm

I will support this.
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Postby Daynor » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:09 pm

A nation can't inherit another nation can it? I realize it isn't the best way to say it but I figured any other way would fall foul of the stupid rule.

I'm not actually that familiar with TRR, I know after Nai took over there was a move to elections but I don't actually personally know if that is because Nai supported it or the community as a whole saw the need for the elections in the absence of Kandy, who possibly could have been trusted not to need re-election after however many years he was delegate there.

I also know that shortly after Nai took over the Foreign Affairs Department and RRA sprang back to life, but, again don't know if Nai is personally responsible for it, or if it was just a side effect of Kandy leaving and TRR gaining attention and members from the passing of Kandy.

Anyone from TRR willing to shed light on what Nai's involvement in these processes were shall be rewarded with a TSP Hula-Skirt. :)
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Postby Crazy girl » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:07 am

Sedge took control over the FA side and brought it up from nothing to what it is now. Nai had no real involvement in the RRA.

Now where's my hula skirt :P

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Postby Daynor » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:03 am

*Holds it just out of reach*
And the constitution and elections?
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:19 am

The election was based on a system originally written by Biyah's puppet Manetheren River, which was heavily modified by myself (much to his disgust), Naivetry, Thought Transference, CG and various other citizens so that it was workable. Nai and Biblical Importance (the two candidates) took responsibility for TGing all the nations in TRR so that they knew about the elections. The election process was then run by myself, Thought Transference and CG.

The Constitution was first drafted by Whamabama, edited thoroughly by myself, and then again by Naivetry to shrink it down to a workable length :P All citizens were involved in the discussion, but the three of us plus Spartan Termopylae probably contributed the most.

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:49 am

Observing Naivetry was co-founder and an important leader of Equilism and member of the region's military, the E-Army,

Can a nation, rather than an individual, actually be described as "a member" of an army?
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Postby Ballotonia » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:52 am

Make it "contributor to" instead?

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:58 am

Ballotonia wrote:Make it "contributor to" instead?

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That looks better to me, yes.
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Postby Daynor » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:19 am

From Sedge's post I suppose we can say that Nai "contributed heavily to the move to a constitutional system with elections"?

Also, if it is ruled I have to change it to 'contributed to' the military to comply with Rule IV I shall, otherwise I am leaving it. Commend Fudge stated that Fudgetopia was a member of TSP's military, so I'm hoping that will not be the ruling, but I have also learned that consistency should not be expected when it comes to Rule IV rulings. EDIT: Commend Ananke also notes her as 'in' the North Pacific Army, and that was a resolution that was passed post-Rule IV.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:32 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Observing Naivetry was co-founder and an important leader of Equilism and member of the region's military, the E-Army,

Can a nation, rather than an individual, actually be described as "a member" of an army?

Yes. As Topid pointed out, it's been allowed before in Commend Fudgetopia: "was a founding member of The South Pacific's military". It could be said with RL nations/militaries too (France is a member of the European Rapid Reaction Force, the US is a member of NATO etc.).

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:36 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:
Observing Naivetry was co-founder and an important leader of Equilism and member of the region's military, the E-Army,

Can a nation, rather than an individual, actually be described as "a member" of an army?

Yes. As Topid pointed out, it's been allowed before in Commend Fudgetopia: "was a founding member of The South Pacific's military". It could be said with RL nations/militaries too (France is a member of the European Rapid Reaction Force, the US is a member of NATO etc.).

NATO is an alliance rather than an army, and doesn't even have an army of its own separate from those of its member nations, so this comparison still doesn't look right to me... Ah well, you're the Mod...


(EDIT: 2 typoes fixed.)
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Postby Daynor » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:19 am

EDIT: I meant to hit the 'edit' button and add the constitutional/election part rather than 'quote' and reposting the whole OP here.

So... Yeah, OP edited, post made on accident. :lol:
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:07 am

Ms. Harper may support this.

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Postby Daynor » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:17 am

Unibot II wrote:She also ran a Latin clinic!

Oh yeah, I meant to respond to this... I'm at a loss for how to describe that without breaking Rule IV.
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Postby Crazy girl » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:28 am

Hmm...perhaps something along the lines of Naivetry's research of the Latin language, which knowledge is shared with other nations?

Also, Sedge, hands off my skirt :P

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Postby Daynor » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:01 pm

That'll work. Edited.
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