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[PASSED] Commend Ballotonia

Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:13 pm

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Commend Ballotonia

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation | Nominee: Ballotonia | Proposed by: Mahaj


THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

ACKNOWLEDGING Ballotonia as an ardent champion of the defender cause,

NOTING that Ballotonia is the mastermind behind the liberation approach called the 'PuppetMaster Attack,' which was first used in The North Pacific in the largest successful liberation to date,

AWARE that Ballotonia presided over the Allied Liberation League, or A.L.L., which was connected to the A.D.N. and at its peak included regions such as The West Pacific, The North Pacific, The Rejected Realms, Nasicournia, Equilism, Nederland, Belgium, Utopia, and North America.

ACKNOWLEDGING Ballotonia’s leadership role in the close alliance between the regions of Nederland and Belgium which has helped keep the liberated region of Belgium active and secure under its native delegate of West-Flanders for almost two years to date,

RECOGNIZING the existence of the Ballotonian "office of almost-useless stats," which produced an interesting survey entitled "Flag Use Stats" which recorded statistics such as the most used flag in the world,

APPLAUDING the work of Ballotonian number analysts who conducted a population growth investigation with the goal of determining how quickly nations gain population and uncovered results that surprised many and debunked the old myth about population gain, which was that the population growth would be random as opposed to a systematic increase,

ASTONISHED that despite over 85000 nations currently existing, the same issues keep popping up in all of these nations,

COGNIZANT that Ballotonia has, through extensive research, catalogued these issues and the most common responses to them by nations, given the different issues names and numbers, and also listed the options that nations frequently take when addressing these issues,

RECOGNIZING Ballotonia as the author of the Security Council proposal 'Repeal Commend Sedgistan,' the only Security Council proposal yet to pass in the wake of the coup of The South Pacific by Devonitions, a puppet state of Sedgistan,

HEREBY Commends Ballotonia.

Co-Authored by [nation=short]A Mean Old Man[/nation]


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Flag Design

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Repeal Commend Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:26 pm

It's rather weak on content - the proposal references a lot of stuff Ballo has done on the NS forums in the last couple of years, but little in the way of his gameplay history, which is long and dare I say illustrious. The making of a couple of flags is nothing compared to conceiving and organising the puppetmaster liberation of TNP, and defending with the GLA, ALL and Nederland.

If he's happy for you to pursue this Commendation, I'd recommend asking Ballo about his history, so the proposal can be more thorough.

There's also probably some Rule 4 issues, but I'll look later.

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:27 pm

Sedgistan wrote:It's rather weak on content - the proposal references a lot of stuff Ballo has done on the NS forums in the last couple of years, but little in the way of his gameplay history, which is long and dare I say illustrious. The making of a couple of flags is nothing compared to conceiving and organising the puppetmaster liberation of TNP, and defending with the GLA, ALL and Nederland.

If he's happy for you to pursue this Commendation, I'd recommend asking Ballo about his history, so the proposal can be more thorough.

There's also probably some Rule 4 issues, but I'll look later.

I don't think there's Rule 4 issues, but then i've never been the best at Rule 4.

All I've experienced with Ballo are the stuff on the NS forums, other stuff before my time. I'll talk with him, though. And yes, i've got the go ahead from him.
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:12 pm

Mahaj wrote:APPLAUDING the work of Ballotonian number analysts who conducted a population growth investigation with the goal of determining how quickly nations gain population, uncovering results that surprised many and debunked the old myth about population gain,

That looks to be too clear a reference to game mechanics. I'm sure you can re-phrase is so it's Rule 4 compliant without much trouble.

AWARE of Ballotonia's helpfulness in educating other nations about the happenings of the world, for example by informing the leaders of another nation about whether their nation was doing something wrong or if there was some problem that the almighty god [violet] had to fix,

Unibot managed to get a reference to [violet] into Condemn Flag Thief, but that was "Violet the deity" not "[violet] the admin". I'm not sure you can change this without it still looking like a reference to violet fixing bugs in the game.

COGNIZANT that Ballotonia has catolouged these issues, given them names and numbers, and also listed the options that nations frequently choose in adressing these issues,

That's another too-clear reference to game mechanics. Obfuscate!

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:16 pm

So deeper stuff than previous proposals of mine.

Is the last one completely unsalvageable, you think?
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:21 pm

Nope - it should be workable. I'll try and come up with a suggestion tomorrow.

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:25 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Nope - it should be workable. I'll try and come up with a suggestion tomorrow.

Righty, thanks!
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Postby Quality Play Time Is Here » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:34 pm

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Postby Unibot II » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:53 pm

You've covered some stuff he's done in the last year, but his actual history is incredible and worthy of a commendation. I'm not opposed to a commendation of Ballotonia in general, but this resolution needs a lot of careful research to be done properly. My worry is you will fall ill of the 'hip' new way of writing security council resolutions and attempt to water down and eliminate all of the great stuff that Ballo did as a defender (!!!).
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Postby Lordieth » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:07 pm

I would support a commendation, if some real work was put into this to reflect a broader range of Ballo's accomplishments. I'm sure with some digging you could give it some weight.
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Postby Frattastan » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:07 pm

*anything that has been already said by Unibot*

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Postby Unibot II » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:11 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Mahaj wrote:APPLAUDING the work of Ballotonian number analysts who conducted a population growth investigation with the goal of determining how quickly nations gain population, uncovering results that surprised many and debunked the old myth about population gain,

That looks to be too clear a reference to game mechanics. I'm sure you can re-phrase is so it's Rule 4 compliant without much trouble.


No offense, but there are myths about population gain in real life too, what if Mahaj simply clarifies what this means in terms of NationStates? Like, "and debunked [an] old myth about population gain, that suggested a lack of government attention to issues facing a nation would negatively affect population growth,"
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Postby Naivetry » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:17 pm

Sedgistan wrote:organising the puppetmaster liberation of TNP

That alone might have earned a Commendation if they'd existed at the time.

Unibot II wrote:You've covered some stuff he's done in the last year, but his actual history is incredible and worthy of a commendation. I'm not opposed to a commendation of Ballotonia in general, but this resolution needs a lot of careful research to be done properly. My worry is you will fall ill of the 'hip' new way of writing security council resolutions and attempt to water down and eliminate all of the great stuff that Ballo did as a defender (!!!).

Unibot and Sedge (and me) agreeing on something? Watch out... there must be some kind of time warp infecting the SC. :P

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:19 pm

Right, so, Ballotonia's defender history was before my time, so I obviously know little about it.

But I've talked to Ballo and have gained some knowledge, so i'll make some changes either later today or tomorrow.

Keep the comments coming, though, and if anyone has something to add about Ballo's history you think I wouldn't know or would have a hard time finding, do let me know.
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:40 pm

If you plan to go through with this, It'd be nice of you to add something on his leadership role in Nederland's partnership with the liberated region of Belgium and note that his involvement in this area has helped keep Belgium, the first and what I believe to be the best liberated region, avtice and secure under its native delegate of West-Flanders for almost two years.


EDIT: There are also a lot of edits that should be made to the current text if it is to both read properly and be grammatically correct.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Mahaj » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:52 pm

A mean old man wrote:If you plan to go through with this, It'd be nice of you to add something on his leadership role in Nederland's partnership with the liberated region of Belgium and note that his involvement in this area has helped keep Belgium, the first and what I believe to be the best liberated region, avtice and secure under its native delegate of West-Flanders for almost two years.


EDIT: There are also a lot of edits that should be made to the current text if it is to both read properly and be grammatically correct.

I do plan on going through with this.

I'll write up a clause about that, thanks.

And yeah, i'm going to clean up and essentially do a redrafting tomorrow. I imagine there will still be plenty of errors grammatically or form wise, though.
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Postby Flemingovia » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:38 am

Sedgistan wrote:It's rather weak on content - the proposal references a lot of stuff Ballo has done on the NS forums in the last couple of years, but little in the way of his gameplay history, which is long and dare I say illustrious. The making of a couple of flags is nothing compared to conceiving and organising the puppetmaster liberation of TNP, and defending with the GLA, ALL and Nederland.

If he's happy for you to pursue this Commendation, I'd recommend asking Ballo about his history, so the proposal can be more thorough.

There's also probably some Rule 4 issues, but I'll look later.



I would agree with this. I think in the wider NS world (at least among anyone who has been around a few years) Ballotonia is best known for his actions as a defender, especially as Free4All in the puppetmaster liberation of TNP.

I suggest you read this article for some background:
http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=T ... _Conflicts
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Postby Milograd » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:47 am

Naivetry wrote:Unibot and Sedge (and me) agreeing on something? Watch out... there must be some kind of time warp infecting the SC. :P

...Nai, we've entered The Twilight Zone. :O

I for one would be for this resolution, if it does Ballo justice.
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:58 am

Flemingovia wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:It's rather weak on content - the proposal references a lot of stuff Ballo has done on the NS forums in the last couple of years, but little in the way of his gameplay history, which is long and dare I say illustrious. The making of a couple of flags is nothing compared to conceiving and organising the puppetmaster liberation of TNP, and defending with the GLA, ALL and Nederland.

If he's happy for you to pursue this Commendation, I'd recommend asking Ballo about his history, so the proposal can be more thorough.

There's also probably some Rule 4 issues, but I'll look later.



I would agree with this. I think in the wider NS world (at least among anyone who has been around a few years) Ballotonia is best known for his actions as a defender, especially as Free4All in the puppetmaster liberation of TNP.

I suggest you read this article for some background:
http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=T ... _Conflicts

Thanks for the link!
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:04 am

I support, but only because it doesn't go any further into defending than an acknowledgement of what he believes in.
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:18 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:I support, but only because it doesn't go any further into defending than an acknowledgement of what he believes in.

I think, though, that i'm going to add more about his defending, because thats a big part of who Ballotonia is.

Redrafting to come later today!
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:14 am

Flemingovia wrote:I suggest you read this article for some background:
http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=T ... _Conflicts


I knew that somehow his ADN involvement would show up here. :p
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia

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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:49 am

So made some edits. Probably didn't catch everything, (pretty sure I didn't, in fact), and i've probably omitted some stuff accidentally, but yeah, there it is!
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Postby Morlago » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:33 am

AWARE of Ballotonia's helpfulness in educating other nations about the happenings of the world, for example by informing the leaders of another nation about whether their nation was doing something wrong or if there was some problem that the almighty god [violet] had to fix,if nations should pray to the almighty god Violet to use her impressive powers to right the wrong of the world,

:rofl: I support this just because of this clause!
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:34 am

Morlago wrote:
AWARE of Ballotonia's helpfulness in educating other nations about the happenings of the world, for example by informing the leaders of another nation about whether their nation was doing something wrong or if there was some problem that the almighty god [violet] had to fix,if nations should pray to the almighty god Violet to use her impressive powers to right the wrong of the world,

:rofl: I support this just because of this clause!

Thanks.
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