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Postby Braaainsss » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:01 pm

Leave it to Scalia to argue that it's constitutional to execute innocent people.

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Postby Soratsin » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:13 pm

This story might be even worse than the OP. Michael Richard, a death row convict in Texas was executed even as his lawyers were trying to file a last minute appeal. They're now alleging that the judge hearing the case deliberately closed the court early knowing an appeal was in the works.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8206480.stm

At least the judge in that case is getting disciplined.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:16 pm

Samatolian City-States wrote:We need new Supreme Court Justices. Anyone up for a "vote of no confidence"?

Why? They did the right thing. Well, not all of them, but the net result was the right thing. :p

Edit: But if you want to give Barack Obama the opportunity to choose nine new Supreme Court justices, I'm sure there will be plenty of Republicans who will gladly pound you with hammers. :)
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Postby Samatolian City-States » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:21 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Samatolian City-States wrote:We need new Supreme Court Justices. Anyone up for a "vote of no confidence"?

Why? They did the right thing. Well, not all of them, but the net result was the right thing. :p

Edit: But if you want to give Barack Obama the opportunity to choose nine new Supreme Court justices, I'm sure there will be plenty of Republicans who will gladly pound you with hammers. :)

Well, I don't want all of them gone. Just a select few. I'm looking at Scalia and Thomas in particular.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:29 pm

Samatolian City-States wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Samatolian City-States wrote:We need new Supreme Court Justices. Anyone up for a "vote of no confidence"?

Why? They did the right thing. Well, not all of them, but the net result was the right thing. :p

Edit: But if you want to give Barack Obama the opportunity to choose nine new Supreme Court justices, I'm sure there will be plenty of Republicans who will gladly pound you with hammers. :)

Well, I don't want all of them gone. Just a select few. I'm looking at Scalia and Thomas in particular.


You know, Scalia might have a different perspective on the Constitution, but at least he respects it. In fact, I suspect he has it tattooed onto his bum. Thomas, I'm really not sure what the hell is wrong with him, but I suspect he and Samuel Alito have corporate logos tattooed onto their bums. :p
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Postby The Chaparral » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:34 pm

Soratsin wrote:This story might be even worse than the OP. Michael Richard, a death row convict in Texas was executed even as his lawyers were trying to file a last minute appeal. They're now alleging that the judge hearing the case deliberately closed the court early knowing an appeal was in the works.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8206480.stm

At least the judge in that case is getting disciplined.


that woman should be put in prison, her actions deserve far more than an end to her career as a judge.

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Postby Samatolian City-States » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:39 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Samatolian City-States wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Why? They did the right thing. Well, not all of them, but the net result was the right thing. :p

Edit: But if you want to give Barack Obama the opportunity to choose nine new Supreme Court justices, I'm sure there will be plenty of Republicans who will gladly pound you with hammers. :)

Well, I don't want all of them gone. Just a select few. I'm looking at Scalia and Thomas in particular.


You know, Scalia might have a different perspective on the Constitution, but at least he respects it. In fact, I suspect he has it tattooed onto his bum. Thomas, I'm really not sure what the hell is wrong with him, but I suspect he and Samuel Alito have corporate logos tattooed onto their bums. :p

Still, a judge is supposed to be impartial and unbiased. When you show too much bias one way or the other, you don't need to be there.
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Postby Psychotic Mongooses » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:38 am

Scalia. :roll:
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Postby Naturality » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:45 am

/rant

Why do we trust judges with such power? What percentage of judges are corrupt? They are human beings (fallible, biased etc) in a job, politically charged .. with protections .. but yet their word lays law to the land and our freedom?

What's the alternative?

I'm not even a lawyer and I don't like judges. I'd trust a random jury over a lifetime judge any day. IMO they are like lifetime politicians. BAD. Lose contact with the real world and prone to corruption.

Well maybe not any random jury. I guess I'd want them within my 'class' at least. I don't trust the comfortable middle class or rich out of contact of society and the real world to be judging anything of 'common people' (working class or poor people).
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Postby Tiesabre » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:51 am

Finally, the innocent man is given a chance.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:07 am

Incidentally, who would get charged if someone was executed and then found to have been innocent?
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Postby Naturality » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:14 am

Sure as hell not a judge

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Postby Desperate Measures » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:27 am

Soheran wrote:
Thethunderdome wrote:wtf is Thomas doing on the wrong side of this? Scalia is obviously a shithead, but Thomas?


Thomas is even more of a shithead, e.g. his dissent arguing that a school was perfectly justified in strip-searching a thirteen-year-old girl on the word of another student that she had drugs. Even Scalia didn't join him on that one.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:44 am

Ifreann wrote:Incidentally, who would get charged if someone was executed and then found to have been innocent?


It would depend on the reason why said innocent person was convicted. A legitimate mistake? Then nobody.

If the person was essentially "set up" to be convicted, I imagine whomever so set him up could be charged with murder, or at very least manslaughter. I don't know if any such thing has ever been done in the US, but it's not inconceivable that it could.
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