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PASSED: Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby The Sedge » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:37 am

SECURITY COUNCIL

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Liberate Feudal Japan
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): Feudal Japan | Authored by: The Sedge


RECOGNISING Feudal Japan as a sizeable and active region prior to its invasion in November 2007;

NOTING that the invasion of the region by Catlandatopia, Fox Rite, The Cathedral, and Blades of Conquest led to the imposition of a secret password and the ejection of Feudal Japan's innocent members;

UNDERSTANDING the disruption caused to the former residents of Feudal Japan, and the distress the aforementioned actions caused to them;

DISAPPOINTED that the region's current occupiers have left the region to rot and degrade into a mockery of its former self - with no indication of any community activity surviving the decay;

FURTHER NOTING that the former residents of Feudal Japan currently reside in Tokugawa Japan and still desire to return to Feudal Japan;

AWARE that the nations formerly resident in Feudal Japan can return to their region only through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY removes password protection from Feudal Japan, and forbids any future attempts to password said region.

Co-authored by Unibot.


I haven't submitted a WA proposal before, so I wanted to make sure I do it properly (ie get feedback from those who are more involved in the WA before submitting it).

On the actual invasion, I'm sure there'll be more debate on it, but I'd like to make clear from the start that although the region was invaded a long time ago (nearly 2 years ago), the natives of Feudal Japan are currently in the region Tokugawa Japan - a region that is still reasonably active, and would like to be able to move back to Feudal Japan.
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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:21 am

Okay I've made zero suggested edits except the last line, and 'fancied up the look of the draft' because I'm in a aesthetic-mood today...

Over all it looks good, except the draft is in dire need of an UNDERSTANDING clause to express the WA's opinon on the invasion of Feudal Japan. This current draft notes its been taken over and passworded, but it doesn't state that the WA finds this unacceptable and why - it just expects readers to think that Invading + Passwording to be a universally condemnable sin that needs to be reversed.

You can as of last week put regional tags in the proposal, and I think this would be an opportune moment to use those tags (I wouldn't worry about the word count). Its not a House of Cards violation, as far as I know, to use those tags because if the region dies, the region's name merely ceases to be a link. So long as the text of proposal is not requiring folks to see the raider regions for evidence, and instead the links are just there for convenience, I don't see a problem with them. But a mod might, so I'd bring it up with them while you're in the drafting phase.



SECURITY COUNCIL

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Liberate Feudal Japan
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): Feudal Japan | Authored by: The Sedge


RECOGNISING Feudal Japan as a sizeable and active region prior to its invasion in November 2007;

NOTING that the invasion of the region by Catlandatopia, Fox Rite, The Cathedral, and Blades of Conquest led to the imposition of a secret password and the ejection of the natives of Feudal Japan;

*Insert the WA's opinion of shock and dismay here*

FURTHER NOTING that the former residents of Feudal Japan currently reside in Tokugawa Japan and still desire to return to Feudal Japan;

AWARE that the natives can return to their region only through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY liberates and forbids any future attempts to password the region of Feudal Japan.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:25 am

and the ejection of the natives of Feudal Japan;


Oh, and this is always a troublesome phrase,

You could define natives for the purposes of your resolution if you'd like with a "DEFINES" clause, or just change that to 'previous residents' or something of that nature.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby The Sedge » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:03 pm

Do you mind if I copy the formatting from your post to my first one?

I agree with you about the term natives, I think as a defender, I'm accustomed to using that term. While I feel that I could define natives, I know its a controversial term, and I wouldn't want the passage of the resolution to depend on peoples acceptance of it. I'll also include your suggestion of regional tags & the edit to the last line. As for the 'understanding' line, how's this:

UNDERSTANDING the disruption caused to the former residents of Feudal Japan, and their distress the aforementioned actions caused to them;

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Martyrdoom » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:12 pm

The proviso "AWARE that the natives can return to their region only through the intervention of the Security Council" is, for me, unacceptable. It connotes that this is about re-empowering the natives (whoever they are, I mean those 'invaders' are 'natives' technically) rather than something merely related to "A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region." It could be argued that it incites a WA-sponsored police action toward a restoration of the pre-invasion setting.
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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Naivetry » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:14 pm

Martyrdoom wrote:*snip*

Unibot's point proven, in case we needed further confirmation...
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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Unibot » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:05 pm

The Sedge wrote:Do you mind if I copy the formatting from your post to my first one?

I agree with you about the term natives, I think as a defender, I'm accustomed to using that term. While I feel that I could define natives, I know its a controversial term, and I wouldn't want the passage of the resolution to depend on peoples acceptance of it. I'll also include your suggestion of regional tags & the edit to the last line. As for the 'understanding' line, how's this:

UNDERSTANDING the disruption caused to the former residents of Feudal Japan, and their distress the aforementioned actions caused to them;


Sure, you can use the formatting, its here....
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[align=center][size=85]SECURITY COUNCIL[/size]

[img]http://www.nationstates.net/images/liberate.png[/img]

[size=150]Liberate Feudal Japan[/size]
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

[b]Category:[/b] Liberation [b]|[/b]  [b]Nominee (region):[/b] [region]Feudal Japan[/region]  [b]| Authored by:[/b] [nation]The Sedge[/nation][/align]

RECOGNISING Feudal Japan as a sizeable and active region prior to its invasion in November 2007;

NOTING that the invasion of the region by [region]Catlandatopia[/region], [region]Fox Rite[/region], [region]The Cathedral[/region], and [region]Blades of Conquest[/region] led to the imposition of a secret password and the ejection of [color=#BF0000]Feudal Japan's innocent members[/color];

UNDERSTANDING the disruption caused to the former residents of Feudal Japan, and their distress the aforementioned actions caused to them;

[color=#000080]*a clause determining that the region's status is much worse than it was before*[/color]

FURTHER NOTING that the former residents of Feudal Japan currently reside in [region]Tokugawa Japan[/region] and still desire to return to Feudal Japan;

AWARE that the [color=#BF0000]refugees[/color] can return to their region only through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY liberates and forbids any future attempts to password the region of Feudal Japan.



You'll notice I edited two other lines where the use of 'native' still existed, and added your wonderful clause.
Also, as I've stated in the code, I believe what this proposal is also missing, is a clause to prove to readers why we must liberate the region, for those that are not a strong believer in native's rights.

For example,

DISAPPOINTED that the region's new and aggressive occupiers have left the region to rot and degrade into a mockery of its former self - with no indication of any community activity surviving the decay ;


But I don't know the situation in Feudal Japan well enough to write about the region's situation beyond the obvious political disregard for natives' rights.

As well I think a clause like that could help strengthen the overall proposal, because this earlier clause...
RECOGNISING Feudal Japan as a sizeable and active region prior to its invasion in November 2007;


...states how the community was a fantastic garden of eve and a whirlwind of community activity before the invasion, however the region's most recent status is not described thereafter, beyond describing the native's being kicked out and barred from returning.
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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby The Sedge » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:14 am

I didn't like the term 'refugees', but other than that, have made the changes you suggested. Thanks :)

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Knights of Zion » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:29 am

It's probably too early for a testament from me to aid the cause at this point, but perhaps something I say will suggest something that should be incorporated into the proposal if you believe it is a strong enough point.

Feudal Japan was established by our emperor Nobunaga's Revenge in 2005 with the express purpose of defending small, defenceless regions against invasion that would normally be overlooked by large defending organizations. We did not characterize ourselves as defenders, but I believe this attracted sufficient attention from invading circles to make us a target.

After the founder's unexpected demise (personal reasons, I'm given to understand), the region of Feudal Japan turned away from the defender/invader scene altogether - I can give evidence of this, as per our new regional mandate produced in 2006 - other than to support our treatied allies. Invaders, however, continued to consider us a target. I believe the fact we were founderless plus approaching eighty nations in size made us too tempting for them to ignore.

We were defended against multiple attacks thanks to support from our allies, but lived always in fear under the shadow of our early, short-lived defending history that we'd long since desired to discard. At the end of 2007 these attempts were finally successful, under the guise of new arrivals while we were doing a recruitment drive (a risky thing for a founderless region to be doing perhaps, but can any region survive without recruitment?). This deception cost us our region.

Since moving to Tokugawa Japan we have seen our numbers fall drastically and lost many valued members of our region. It is hoped that a restoration to our original title would ressurect the pride and loyalty we enjoyed and perhaps lead to a return of some of these players, a restitution of the good name Feudal Japan had spread across the NationStates world, and the satisfying sense of a great wrong being righted.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Anime Daisuki » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:06 pm

I vaguely remember the chief reason why you were invaded was because CLT had a problem with Denivogar/Govindia and he was at that time, one of your Ministers - not because you were characterized as defenders. At least, that was the given reason.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Knights of Zion » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:39 pm

Ah - you're referring to the specifics Catlandatopia cited when leading the assault that successfully invaded the region. I was referring to the bigger picture of why invaders were frequently sizing us up in general.

I continue to regard Catlandatopia's reasoning as no more than pretext, where any pretext would do to further their invading agenda. But I won't get into "we said / they said" unless it's generally felt necessary for clarifying the wording of this proposal. That effort would be better spent come vote time. ;)

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Naivetry » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 pm

Good to see you here, Knights of Zion. :)

And really... blaming it on Govindia? :eyebrow: That sounds like pretext to me.

I would love to see Feudal Japan liberated. That invasion and lockdown meant the largest destruction of a regional community in my memory. I remember reading your updates after the password was instituted... so I wish you all the best on this. Equilism will certainly be voting for, and I'm sorry we couldn't do something to free the region before it was too late.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:31 am

Well done on a well-written resolution, honoured ambassador. Knowing that the evidence is likely to be verified, we will support it.

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Re: [SUBMITTED] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby The Sedge » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:05 am

The resolution has been submitted, with a co-author credit for Unibot to recognise his contributions.

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Postby Topid » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:48 pm

Good another Liberation I can stand behind. I contacted the delegate of TSoA.
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Re: [SUBMITTED] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Vartican » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:21 pm

While my region is a mostly invader region, I would like to support this proposal as the region in question is quite old and a NS gem. Please enjoy your liberation when and if it is granted.

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Re: [SUBMITTED] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Freedomstaki » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:51 pm

You have my approval.

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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Ardchoille » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:33 am

Unibot wrote:You can as of last week put regional tags in the proposal ... <snip> ... I don't see a problem with them. But a mod might, so I'd bring it up with them while you're in the drafting phase ...


I think that they're likely to be so handy that it would be silly to forbid their use. They're embedded in the game, they're good for SC purposes, and it makes no difference to the sense of the proposal if they die.

Nothing about the SC rules is set in stone yet, anyway, except the fact that the admins want the delegates to shape the way the council develops.
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Re: [DRAFT] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Unibot » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:48 am

Ardchoille wrote:
Unibot wrote:You can as of last week put regional tags in the proposal ... <snip> ... I don't see a problem with them. But a mod might, so I'd bring it up with them while you're in the drafting phase ...


I think that they're likely to be so handy that it would be silly to forbid their use. They're embedded in the game, they're good for SC purposes, and it makes no difference to the sense of the proposal if they die.

Nothing about the SC rules is set in stone yet, anyway, except the fact that the admins want the delegates to shape the way the council develops.


Okay, great. :p

We'll see how this goes.

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Re: [SUBMITTED] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby The Sedge » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:57 am

Just reached quorum, guess those 120 telegrams paid off :)

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Re: [IN QUEUE] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:20 am

Well done honoured ambassador! It should be up for vote today.

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Re: [SUBMITTED] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Bears Armed » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:30 am

The Sedge wrote:Just reached quorum, guess those 120 telegrams paid off :)

Meh. I remember when it took 120 actual approvals...
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Re: [IN QUEUE] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Unibot » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:16 am

Meh. I remember when it took 120 actual approvals...


Pointless Unibotian Trivia:

The first time I voted in the WA was at the same time of the highest Quorum threshold in the short history of the WA, 111.

By the way, the proposal was Bob Flibble's Nuclear Arms Possession Act

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Re: [IN QUEUE] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:01 am

The presiding officer declares this proposal at vote and has been quickly informed of Ms. Harper's vote in favour of the resolution.

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Re: [AT VOTE] Liberate Feudal Japan

Postby Vinoslavia » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:03 am

Against. More WA time wasted.

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