A solution for gay marriage

[Orcoa]

Well..you never know

Sorry I had to let that burst of anger out

It's ok.

And by the way, No true christian would view someone as worthless or lower..All men and women are equal in the eyes of God and his son

So you are more then worthy to enter God's home my friend

[Unhealthy2]

Hmmm I'm assuming its a troll face or forever along face so I wont click it but night everyone its not 2:20 and I'm falling asleep.

I'm saying that you are using "I was trollin'." as a defense, and that you really did believe the stuff you put up earlier.

[New Sheoth VI]

Hey who wants to hear the worst part about this all? I've married a gay couple once, truelying I'm trolling and have numerous gay friends (all tho i don't agree with them all the time) i respect their views and sexual orientation mainly because they cant help it. Or they can't according to modern science.

No. This is what you're doing.

Lol I clicked on it after all and it s funny and made my night, anyways goodnight. Oh an TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO TROLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOOLTRLOLOLOOLOLOOLLOLOL TROLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. And you cant forget the, you mad bro you mad you mad you mad you mad you mad you mad? Or the you jelly hm you jelly I jelly u jelly?

[ICO Diplomat to Qwendra]

I don't follow any specific religions, I combined chatholosism, Norse, buhdism, and a few others to form my religion so get your fact straight.

No one cares.

he/she is a troll. either ignore him/her or play along.

[New Sheoth VI]

Hmmm I'm assuming its a troll face or forever along face so I wont click it but night everyone its not 2:20 and I'm falling asleep.

I'm saying that you are using "I was trollin'." as a defense, and that you really did believe the stuff you put up earlier.

Nope.avi I have a license to marry people so I married my gay friend and his lover.

[Soheran]

Hell, if you want, you can get ordained by the Universal Life Church (I think thats the one) and marry people!

I think there has been some question about the legitimacy of such ordinations.

[Volnotova]

Hey who wants to hear the worst part about this all? I've married a gay couple once, truelying I'm trolling and have numerous gay friends (all tho i don't agree with them all the time) i respect their views and sexual orientation mainly because they cant help it. Or they can't according to modern science.

No. This is what you're doing.

Touché

[Euronion]

Compromise isn't always the best solution, bud.

it is hen neither side is willing to budge, sometimes you have to go midway to meet your goals

[Soheran]

Nope.avi I have a license to marry people so I married my gay friend and his lover.

Do your gay friends know you post on online forums about how you hate gay people and want them all to be exterminated?

I can tell you that if I learned that any of my friends did that, "jokingly" or not, they wouldn't be my friends anymore.

[Enadail]

Hell, if you want, you can get ordained by the Universal Life Church (I think thats the one) and marry people!

I think there has been some question about the legitimacy of such ordinations.

How so? Doesn't it just mean that the ULC accepts you as being able to conduct certain actions? I mean, would it be different if I started a church and just made my friends priests in it? What of it needs "legitimacy"?

[Enadail]

Compromise isn't always the best solution, bud.

it is hen neither side is willing to budge, sometimes you have to go midway to meet your goals

And sometimes you have to show the other side is wrong. Certain things you don't compromise on, rights being one of them.

[Soheran]

How so? Doesn't it just mean that the ULC accepts you as being able to conduct certain actions? I mean, would it be different if I started a church and just made my friends priests in it? What of it needs "legitimacy"?

It needs legitimacy if you want the government to recognize you as a member of the clergy such that you can marry people. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_ ... the_church

[Enadail]

How so? Doesn't it just mean that the ULC accepts you as being able to conduct certain actions? I mean, would it be different if I started a church and just made my friends priests in it? What of it needs "legitimacy"?

It needs legitimacy if you want the government to recognize you as a member of the clergy such that you can marry people. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_ ... the_church

I see, thanks. I was not aware there was such scrutiny as to "officiating a marriage". Hell, I'm not really sure what that means, as once you have a marriage license, aren't you legally married? If you have a ceremony, does it matter who leads it? Or does that mean that certain people can lead the process by which the license is signed?

[Reploid Productions]

I'm a TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLing for the win!!!!

No, you're trollololing yourself into a *** 3-day ban for trolling ***. I suggest you take the time to read over the rules of this website, and learn to follow them. Trolling is neither acceptable behavior nor an acceptable defense.


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[Soheran]

I see, thanks. I was not aware there was such scrutiny as to "officiating a marriage". Hell, I'm not really sure what that means, as once you have a marriage license, aren't you legally married?

No. The solemnization step, which must take place within some period of time after the issuance of the license, is necessary before you are married. That's the part that is usually made part of the wedding ceremony. (I'm talking about the US here. I'm told it's different elsewhere.)

If you have a ceremony, does it matter who leads it?

Only certain people are authorized by law to solemnize marriages: generally, members of the clergy and various public officials.

[Grave_n_idle]

No one cares.

Some bi guy told me my religion is full of bigots that speed hate through the bible and such , yet I am the only member and do no such thing, I was making a point.

And still, no one cares.

Excuse it how you want, if your religion is your own personal crusade, and you're the only one, and you're a bigot... then the original claim was true. No?

[JJ Place]

For an individual who believes that the State does set the law, I find it interesting that you now argue that the State does not set the law, by repealing itself from an area of society. A bit of speaking out of both sides of your mouth, Grave? Religious organizations have the right to observe marriages as they wish, Grave. Churches have all the right to refuse to marry anyone they wish, and deny access to the church should they dislike anyone for any reason. That's their right as a for-prophet business. Here's a topic of consideration for yourself: Would you seriously want to to be a member of organization that hates you, an organization that only accepted you because they where forced to? I wouldn't, myself.

Churches can refuse all they like. The gay marriage movement doesn't care. What we care about is churches campaigning against the extension of marriage rights to gays. That is religious dogma setting the law.

Churches can protest freely as they wish, and campaign in any measure they wish; any and all have a right to freedom of speech and assembly, a right protected by the Bill of Rights of the United States. Churches can protest for whatever they like, that's not setting the law at all, that's freedom of speech. Churches can protest that all homosexuality needs to be banned, and made a Capital Offense, that gays are an abomination to the world, that god hates fags, and that soldiers in the military are killed by god to punish the United States for condoning homosexuality; that's their right of free speech, and one has the right to take that from them, regardless of their message. Religious Dogma is not setting the law by respecting free speech; by using their freedom of speech, Westboro Church has not set the law by any stretch of the imagination; if anything, Westboro has done more to fight homophobia than any other party I can think of, even Gay Right's Organizations. It just takes a look into the extreme by the moderates, for the moderates to realize just what their belief is causing and impacting, for the change to be made.

I find it a bit, pretentious, of you to assume, or declare, that the entire of the gay marriage movement cares as you do of church's campaigning against gay marriage; taking legal action against churches for their protest isn't a goal of a vast array of individuals in the gay marriage, gay, and and general alternative lifestyle's movement. If history's taught us one thing, it's that banning something doesn't make it go away; it strengthens it. Marijuana was the poor man's drug before the prohibition, consumed only by the poorest of the poor in society; in the modern day, after 80 years of prosecution, Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the United States. The gay marriage movement isn't going to benefit from taking down church's freedom of speech; that's not going to aid a movement of freedom and liberation by destroying other rights.