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[Proposed] The World Scouting Movement

Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:42 pm

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

Description: The General Assembly,

Recognizing that in many nations, children are roaming the streets, exposed to horrible truths, such as violence, sex, gambling, etc.

Noting that such bad influence can be avoided by promoting healthy, physical, clean lives.

Noting that Scouting is a way of limiting the terrible attrocities introduced in the lowest levels of society, whilst providing the encouragement and motivation on tasks such as education, jobs, etc.


What Does Scouting Do?

Scouting creates a healthy enviornment for the boy or girl, creating motivation and leadership. It teaches the Scout to save lives, participate actively in school and sports, and to gain leadership and an idea on how they can change the world. Scouting is not to be misguided as a labor organization.


Therefore, be it resolved that:

The World Scouting Movement be created, comprising of ranks, regulations, and requirements. Therefore creating a child led Organization to introduce leadership and understanding.

Article : International Membership

- Membership isn't required, and if a nation does not have a Scouting movement, the government is encouraged to set up one.

Article 2: Who May Participate

- All persons from 11 to 18 may participate in Scouting, no matter what race, sex, religion, etc.

- Those over the age of 21 may become adult leaders or may contribute with funds.

- Scouting is not mandatory

Article 3: Civil Rights

- No person(s) may not be turned down from Scouting, no matter their beleifs and ideologies.


Article 4: Funding

- Funding is not required by any person of a nation, unless one wants to. Funds are volountary, and can be accepted to improve the Scouting curriculum of a nation.

- The family of a Scout or Scouts must pay a yearly revenue to the Troop or National Commitie

Article 5: International Jamborees

Description of Jamboree: International Jamborees are created for many nations to join in with their Scout Programs, and celebrate the Brotherhood/Sisterhood of Scouting.

- Jamborees are to be held at any time, but must have a permanent camping ground suitable of giving thousands of Scouts a great wilderness enviornment, but keeping them safe at the same time.


Scouting is designed to create a mood of responsibility and leadership, happiness and cooperation among others, while keeping the child safe from harm or danger. The World Scouting Movement is designed to do that.

"The most worth-while thing is to try to put happiness into the lives of others."

Hearby creates the World Scouting Movement


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Postby Darenjo » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:17 pm

1. Sex and gambling are not "atrocities."
2. How does scouting prevent violence? I would think teaching children how to fire rifles would increase violence.
3. This doesn't protect gay kids from being turned away from scouting. Or it's contradictory, depending on how you read it.
4. This is sheer micromanagement - I do not see how such an organization is worthy of international legislation; we have far better things to do.

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:26 pm

Darenjo wrote:2. I would think teaching children how to fire rifles would increase violence.


What does firing rifles have to do with scouting? Unless your proposing it's mandatory to shoot rifles. Thats not even allowed in the GA proposals

Darenjo wrote:3. This doesn't protect gay kids from being turned away from scouting. Or it's contradictory, depending on how you read it.


I mean, if anybody of any ideology signs up, it forbids the troop to turn them down because of their ideologies.

Darenjo wrote: This is sheer micromanagement - I do not see how such an organization is worthy of international legislation; we have far better things to do.


I don't see anything else that's "better to do" except pass resolutions and repealing them, the world needs Scouting
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Postby The Burya Natsiya » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:33 pm

What tells you the world "needs" scouting? That's the job of the education system of every nation. Now, if this resolution was about those who don't do this particular job, that would be fine by me. Personally, if this scouting thing was passed, I would order my police forces to shoot them on sight. No foreigner is going to do the job of our teachers, no thanks.
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Girl Scouts has helped me

Postby Hog and Pig farts » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:35 pm

WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
Thanks you!!!!!
Scout has helped me and friends. It teaches you self defense and cooking and such.

You need to put that scouting helps shape people into better people that in turn help the nation,
and the age limit should be lower. Like 5.
SHUT UP! SCOUTING HELPS PEOPLE ALOT SCOUTS LEAD BETTER LIVES ITS PROVEN!

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:36 pm

The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting?


Crime rates increasing, drug sales increasing, deaths increasing. Scouting prevents this drastically.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:38 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
Thanks you!!!!!
Scout has helped me and friends. It teaches you self defense and cooking and such.

You need to put that scouting helps shape people into better people that in turn help the nation,
and the age limit should be lower. Like 5.
SHUT UP! SCOUTING HELPS PEOPLE ALOT SCOUTS LEAD BETTER LIVES ITS PROVEN!


:lol2: I was inspired through Scouting to write this proposal.
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Postby The Burya Natsiya » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:39 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
Thanks you!!!!!
Scout has helped me and friends. It teaches you self defense and cooking and such.

You need to put that scouting helps shape people into better people that in turn help the nation,
and the age limit should be lower. Like 5.
SHUT UP! SCOUTING HELPS PEOPLE ALOT SCOUTS LEAD BETTER LIVES ITS PROVEN!


I will politely ask you to calm down. You have no right to order me to shut up, and this is only your opinion. (We do have something similar, although in our country, it's called "Youth military". Just that it's for national defense... and not compulsory.)

Demphor wrote:
The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting?


Crime rates increasing, drug sales increasing, deaths increasing. Scouting prevents this drastically.


Yeah um... Scouting is only a minor -beneficial, I don't deny it, but minor actor in all that. How about something to increase the efficiency of things that are there already to fight crime, drug sales, like, you know, schools, education, and police forces? That resolution would be treating every such administrations of just about every country in the world as being incompetent, or incapable of this job already. Plus, this is only a general assumption. We have very low crime rates in the Natsiya and that's thanks to both a strong police force and an efficient educational system. May I point out that it's even lower for youth-related incidents. On a purely personal point of view, this resolution is a mockery. On my opinion of a general point of view, it's not useful.
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Postby Hog and Pig farts » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:40 pm

The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting? That's the job of the education system of every nation. Now, if this resolution was about those who don't do this particular job, that would be fine by me. Personally, if this scouting thing was passed, I would order my police forces to shoot them on sight. No foreigner is going to do the job of our teachers, no thanks.

You little butthole
scouts are from your own country genius! Go read the Boy scout handbook or the girl scout hand book!

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:41 pm

The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting? That's the job of the education system of every nation. Now, if this resolution was about those who don't do this particular job, that would be fine by me. Personally, if this scouting thing was passed, I would order my police forces to shoot them on sight. No foreigner is going to do the job of our teachers, no thanks.


Well, then you can work very hard in trying to get the resolution repealed if it passes. Why would you shoot Scouts?
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Postby Dukopolious » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:42 pm

Insted of creating an alternatly harmful program why not just enforce restrictions?
This would teach the childred dicipline and then they would be mature when they are adults.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:43 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:
The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting? That's the job of the education system of every nation. Now, if this resolution was about those who don't do this particular job, that would be fine by me. Personally, if this scouting thing was passed, I would order my police forces to shoot them on sight. No foreigner is going to do the job of our teachers, no thanks.

You little butthole
scouts are from your own country genius! Go read the Boy scout handbook or the girl scout hand book!


As much as I like support, could you take it down a few?
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Postby The Burya Natsiya » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:43 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:scouts are from your own country genius! Go read the Boy scout handbook or the girl scout hand book!


I will not tolerate you insulting me. Calm down. (OOC: And you have no idea what country I am from. Stop making assumptions.)

Demphor wrote:
Well, then you can work very hard in trying to get the resolution repealed if it passes. Why would you shoot Scouts?


Just because our citizens are very likely to... not like this resolution, in the hypothetical event it will be passed.
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Postby Hog and Pig farts » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:44 pm

The Burya Natsiya wrote:
Hog and Pig farts wrote:WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
Thanks you!!!!!
Scout has helped me and friends. It teaches you self defense and cooking and such.

You need to put that scouting helps shape people into better people that in turn help the nation,
and the age limit should be lower. Like 5.
SHUT UP! SCOUTING HELPS PEOPLE ALOT SCOUTS LEAD BETTER LIVES ITS PROVEN!


I will politely ask you to calm down. You have no right to order me to shut up, and this is only your opinion. (We do have something similar, although in our country, it's called "Youth military". Just that it's for national defense... and not compulsory.)

Demphor wrote:
Crime rates increasing, drug sales increasing, deaths increasing. Scouting prevents this drastically.


i know someone who was teased at school and fed up with the school he commited suicide.

Yeah um... Scouting is only a minor -beneficial, I don't deny it, but minor actor in all that. How about something to increase the efficiency of things that are there to fight crime, drug sales, like, you know, schools, education, and police forces?

Scouting is not rotc it is skills. You can't just guess what scouting is. Only real scouts know what its like

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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:45 pm

Dukopolious wrote:Insted of creating an alternatly harmful program why not just enforce restrictions?
This would teach the childred dicipline and then they would be mature when they are adults.


"Correcting bad habits cannot be done by forbidding or punishment."- Robert Baden Powell
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Postby Beldonia » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:46 pm

OOC: Given all the damn liberals on here, this won't get a lot of support. But, as a scout, I'm in favor.

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Postby The Burya Natsiya » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:Scouting is not rotc it is skills. You can't just guess what scouting is. Only real scouts know what its like


Oh really. Apparently scouts did not teach you how to make arguments. Besides, what values the military teach the scouts don't? I would make an educated guess and say that the military - especially ours! - would teach much, much more than a scouting program. We in the Natsiya do not need such a program and we won't tolerate one to be enforced to our country.

OOC: The "damn" was not necessary.
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Postby Cathatis » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:48 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:
The Burya Natsiya wrote:
I will politely ask you to calm down. You have no right to order me to shut up, and this is only your opinion. (We do have something similar, although in our country, it's called "Youth military". Just that it's for national defense... and not compulsory.)



i know someone who was teased at school and fed up with the school he commited suicide.

Yeah um... Scouting is only a minor -beneficial, I don't deny it, but minor actor in all that. How about something to increase the efficiency of things that are there to fight crime, drug sales, like, you know, schools, education, and police forces?

Scouting is not rotc it is skills. You can't just guess what scouting is. Only real scouts know what its like

Speaking as an ex-Scout of 9 years, I'm opposed to this.
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Postby Dukopolious » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:48 pm

Demphor wrote:
Dukopolious wrote:Insted of creating an alternatly harmful program why not just enforce restrictions?
This would teach the childred dicipline and then they would be mature when they are adults.


"Correcting bad habits cannot be done by forbidding or punishment."- Robert Baden Powell


Well how about teaching them in soem sort of apprenticeship programs, for example learn the law from a cop. At my country (IC) I have people from diffrent professions visiting schools and other education centers speaking to kids about thier profession.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:49 pm

Beldonia wrote:OOC: Given all the damn liberals on here, this won't get a lot of support. But, as a scout, I'm in favor.


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Postby The Burya Natsiya » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:50 pm

Dukopolious wrote:
Demphor wrote:
"Correcting bad habits cannot be done by forbidding or punishment."- Robert Baden Powell


Well how about teaching them in soem sort of apprenticeship programs, for example learn the law from a cop. At my country (IC) I have people from diffrent professions visiting schools and other education centers speaking to kids about thier profession.


Yes, or from a lawyer. This looks much more reasonable, plus it wouldn't have to be enforced on a world scale - it is something that is at the discretion of every country of the world.
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Postby Czardas » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:51 pm

Hog and Pig farts wrote:
The Burya Natsiya wrote:What tells you the world "needs" scouting? That's the job of the education system of every nation. Now, if this resolution was about those who don't do this particular job, that would be fine by me. Personally, if this scouting thing was passed, I would order my police forces to shoot them on sight. No foreigner is going to do the job of our teachers, no thanks.

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scouts are from your own country genius! Go read the Boy scout handbook or the girl scout hand book!

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:51 pm

This proposal is excellent, although it requires some editing. I'll write up my suggested improvements later. Can I suggest a name change to the International Scouting Act?
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Postby Dukopolious » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:52 pm

I'm agesnt scounting, it will cost too much money in comparrison for things it teaches children.

But with some improvements like people of certain professions teaching it could be improved.
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Postby Demphor » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:52 pm

Dukopolious wrote:
Demphor wrote:
"Correcting bad habits cannot be done by forbidding or punishment."- Robert Baden Powell


Well how about teaching them in soem sort of apprenticeship programs, for example learn the law from a cop. At my country (IC) I have people from diffrent professions visiting schools and other education centers speaking to kids about thier profession.


Scouting does that as well.
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