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Postby The Macabees » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:07 am

Diarcesia wrote:One of the old RPs that I'm in is set in 2020 (i.e. now). I plan to continue where I left off as a factbook entry in my perspective, but almost everyone involved is already CTE'd. This almost surely means that some godmodding will happen for narrative purposes. What are your thoughts on this?


Long RPs tend to suffer from this sort of attrition of players.

I think it depends on how strongly related they are to your canon and what the probability of their return is.

And, actually, let me take a step back. In Greater Dienstad, the policy is that you can only "narrate" the IC events of a CTEd player if (a) you had a strong canonical and RPing relationship with that player prior to the CTE and (b) sufficient time has elapsed that it suggests the player isn't returning. There's also as much effort as possible to contact that player or reach an arrangement. For example, when I took over the canon for Nicaro, I talked to the player about it knowing that he was going to not have the time to play NS and would more than likely CTE.

Alternatively, in A Passion Play -- a very old RP, but one that went through this sort of attrition among major contestants -- basically after a long time of waiting for them to return I took over the canon of the players who now had major canonical links with me. I didn't want to lose that canon so I took it over, but only after I want to say 2 OOC years of waiting.

All of this being said, "taking over canon" is contentious. There are people who have zero tolerance for it; players who think that under no circumstances should their canon be co-opted, even if they've CTEd. If a player has expressed that, it must be respected.

I approach it by developing explicit, transparent rules that region members are aware of.

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Postby Diarcesia » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:49 pm

The Macabees wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:One of the old RPs that I'm in is set in 2020 (i.e. now). I plan to continue where I left off as a factbook entry in my perspective, but almost everyone involved is already CTE'd. This almost surely means that some godmodding will happen for narrative purposes. What are your thoughts on this?


Long RPs tend to suffer from this sort of attrition of players.

I think it depends on how strongly related they are to your canon and what the probability of their return is.

And, actually, let me take a step back. In Greater Dienstad, the policy is that you can only "narrate" the IC events of a CTEd player if (a) you had a strong canonical and RPing relationship with that player prior to the CTE and (b) sufficient time has elapsed that it suggests the player isn't returning. There's also as much effort as possible to contact that player or reach an arrangement. For example, when I took over the canon for Nicaro, I talked to the player about it knowing that he was going to not have the time to play NS and would more than likely CTE.

Alternatively, in A Passion Play -- a very old RP, but one that went through this sort of attrition among major contestants -- basically after a long time of waiting for them to return I took over the canon of the players who now had major canonical links with me. I didn't want to lose that canon so I took it over, but only after I want to say 2 OOC years of waiting.

All of this being said, "taking over canon" is contentious. There are people who have zero tolerance for it; players who think that under no circumstances should their canon be co-opted, even if they've CTEd. If a player has expressed that, it must be respected.

I approach it by developing explicit, transparent rules that region members are aware of.


Thanks for the informative answer!
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Postby Teufelreich » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:56 pm

How can I roleplay the mandatory nudity for tieflings in my nation tastefully? That is to say acknowledge it but don’t make it outright pornographic.

On that note, how should I handle that my nation is populated by tieflings rather than humans?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:17 pm

Teufelreich wrote:How can I roleplay the mandatory nudity for tieflings in my nation tastefully? That is to say acknowledge it but don’t make it outright pornographic.

On that note, how should I handle that my nation is populated by tieflings rather than humans?


I'd say mention it. That's all. If they have things like body paint or tattoos, feel free to mention it, but don't closely analyze and examine every curve of your characters. Also, you might want to see if there's a legitimate cultural region behind nudity like this since it seems odd to be mandatory even in the face of say, cold or unpleasant weather. For an example, New Edom is someone who doesn't have mandatory nudity, but they do acknowledge it very briefly if you'd like an example (I only mention because I had a singular roleplay with them, mind, albeit as Ezhara).

As for the tiefling thing, this will limit your roleplay potential since a lot of people do specify things like human/humanoid. You may be willing to negotiate that they're just "really weird humans," but otherwise you might not have as large of an access to as many roleplays. That said, if you're happy doing it and can find contentment in what roleplays are available, absolutely write your nation being that way. Nobody will stop you; at most, they'll not really acknowledge you. As someone who does write non-human individuals among other such chaos, I mostly write it nonchalantly since that's the normal context for my nations, though obviously don't expect other people to know what you know about your folks.
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Postby Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:17 pm

Is Retarfgang respected in his "roleplay posts", if you can even call them that?
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Postby Tarchuna and Ravenna » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:24 pm

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Postby Lamoni » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:36 am

Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:Is Retarfgang respected in his "roleplay posts", if you can even call them that?


Firstly, that is not what this thread is for. It is for asking questions about how to roleplay, or to use aspects of worldbuilding in roleplays. Secondly, your post comes very close to flaming. Knock it off.
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Postby Northern Morik » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:22 am

Hello. I am planning on having an internal coup in my NationState. How would I go about announcing this happening? Would there be any response? What is the best was to go about creating a major lore change in my Country?

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Postby The Macabees » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:48 pm

Northern Morik wrote:Hello. I am planning on having an internal coup in my NationState. How would I go about announcing this happening? Would there be any response? What is the best was to go about creating a major lore change in my Country?


I would "announce" it through a well-planned, well-written, and well-paced opening post. Make it compelling, but don't bog people down in too much detail. Basically, if you're a new RPer your "brand value" is 0 or close to it. That means there's no "brand" driving readership. So make it easy for people to understand what's going on, make it interesting, and make it open for them to join in.

Give others some freedom in how they respond. You can set limits -- like, you don't have to accept an dogpile (invasion by multiple countries) if that's not fun for you. But, generally speaking, give people leeway, otherwise they may feel it's too restricted for their tastes.

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Postby Itgamy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:48 pm

Can you make treaties with other nations?

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Postby Sunset » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:46 pm

Itgamy wrote:Can you make treaties with other nations?


As part of roleplaying? Certainly.
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Postby Eochora » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:56 pm

Hey, I've been gone from NationStates for many years but now I am back. I am interested in roleplaying as an insane isolationist dystopian nation that refuses to officially communicate with other countries (except through espionage and back-door deals). What are some ways I can still engage in "normal" roleplay with other nations?

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Postby Bala Mantre » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:09 pm

Eochora wrote:Hey, I've been gone from NationStates for many years but now I am back. I am interested in roleplaying as an insane isolationist dystopian nation that refuses to officially communicate with other countries (except through espionage and back-door deals). What are some ways I can still engage in "normal" roleplay with other nations?

People give me crap for having a large nation even though I have the conscription law

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Postby The Macabees » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:21 pm

Eochora wrote:Hey, I've been gone from NationStates for many years but now I am back. I am interested in roleplaying as an insane isolationist dystopian nation that refuses to officially communicate with other countries (except through espionage and back-door deals). What are some ways I can still engage in "normal" roleplay with other nations?


That espionage and back-door dealing sounds like a good place to start.

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Postby The Macabees » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:24 pm

Bala Mantre wrote:People give me crap for having a large nation even though I have the conscription law


A common issue. Care to give more details? Like, what percentage of your population is in the military? Disproportionately large militaries -- militaries which are a large % of your total population -- aren't impossible, but there are other details which will come as a result. For example, due to the large manpower requirements on Nazi Germany during World War II, it suffered from acute labor hour shortages (even with a large % of women mobilized into the workforce even prior to the war) that it only partially filed through forced labor conscription of people from the occupied territories.

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