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Should we celebrate Osama's Death

Postby Debateorg » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:57 am

http://www.debate.org/debates/Celebrati ... -wrong./1/

I was wondering how people can be against celebrating Osama's death. What is wrong with it?

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:58 am

Some people think it's wrong, since they believe anyone can be redeemed.
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Postby Debateorg » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:01 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Some people think it's wrong, since they believe anyone can be redeemed.


What do you mean by redeemed? Like rehabilitated?

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:02 am

Debateorg wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Some people think it's wrong, since they believe anyone can be redeemed.


What do you mean by redeemed? Like rehabilitated?


In the eyes of God. Those are the few people I know of who feel that, but I'm sure there are others.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:03 am

well it is kinda time to tamp down the dancing in the streets.

its been a month. settle down.
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Postby Yootwopia » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:03 am

No, and if you do then you're an utter pleb.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:04 am

No. I could understand the loved ones of those killed or wounded in his attacks being pleased but the kind of celebrations that were seen following the reports of his death had a horrifically bloodthirsty feel to them that I would like to think, or rather that i'd hope, people could be above.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:08 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:No. I could understand the loved ones of those killed or wounded in his attacks being pleased but the kind of celebrations that were seen following the reports of his death had a horrifically bloodthirsty feel to them that I would like to think, or rather that i'd hope, people could be above.


I agree, but I read somewhere his family disowned him when he joined al Qaeda.
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Postby The Atlantean Menace » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:08 am

Yes. Anyone who says no one's death should be celebrated is deluding themselves. The world really is a better place without some people, and Osama bin Laden was definitely one of them.

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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:09 am

The Atlantean Menace wrote:Yes. Anyone who says no one's death should be celebrated is deluding themselves. The world really is a better place without some people, and Osama bin Laden was definitely one of them.


I'm really not deluding myself. Some deaths are necessary but they shouldn't be celebrated.
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Postby Timurid Empire » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:10 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Debateorg wrote:
What do you mean by redeemed? Like rehabilitated?


In the eyes of God. Those are the few people I know of who feel that, but I'm sure there are others.


It's not whether he can be redeemed in the eyes of God, it's if he can be redeemed in the eyes of Humanity. He can't.

Should we celebrate his death? Death shouldn't be celebrated. But some people can not be allowed to live.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:10 am

Whats wrong it? Well nothing but perhaps one might consider getting a life if one really cares that much (victims and relatives excluded)
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Postby Wolny Kraj » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:11 am

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Some people think it's wrong, since they believe anyone can be redeemed.


I'm of the belief that no death should be celebrated, only solemnly acknowledged and mourned. I also believe that everyone can be rehabilitated into a normal human being. I really don't want to get into a firefight about this, that's just how I feel.
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Postby The Atlantean Menace » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:12 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
The Atlantean Menace wrote:Yes. Anyone who says no one's death should be celebrated is deluding themselves. The world really is a better place without some people, and Osama bin Laden was definitely one of them.


I'm really not deluding myself. Some deaths are necessary but they shouldn't be celebrated.


I don't see what's wrong with celebrating what makes the world better. I'd celebrate if we ended world hunger, too.

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Postby Existential_Nihilists » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:13 am

Well, I don't know, but it's reported that we have also killed his replacement.

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Postby Strykla » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:15 am

I was happy for it. The man orchestrated the mass murder of 3000-some people at nearly once, and that was only at 9/11.
So yeah, we should be patting ourselves on the back for the death of bin Laden.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:16 am

Did anyone celebrate Hitler's death?(Not a rhetorical question)
We shouldn't celebrate anyones Death
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Postby Debateorg » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:16 am

The Atlantean Menace wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
I'm really not deluding myself. Some deaths are necessary but they shouldn't be celebrated.


I don't see what's wrong with celebrating what makes the world better. I'd celebrate if we ended world hunger, too.


I agree. We should all be happier that a psycho who kills random innocents is dead.

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Postby Wolny Kraj » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:18 am

Chinese Regions wrote:Did anyone celebrate Hitler's death?(Not a rhetorical question)
We shouldn't celebrate anyones Death


I wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad someone brought this up. I feel the same way.
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Postby Keronians » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:19 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:No. I could understand the loved ones of those killed or wounded in his attacks being pleased but the kind of celebrations that were seen following the reports of his death had a horrifically bloodthirsty feel to them that I would like to think, or rather that i'd hope, people could be above.


This.
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Postby Debateorg » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:19 am

Chinese Regions wrote:Did anyone celebrate Hitler's death?(Not a rhetorical question)
We shouldn't celebrate anyones Death


I'm sure many people celebrated hitlers death. i would have.

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Postby Keronians » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:20 am

Strykla wrote:I was happy for it. The man orchestrated the mass murder of 3000-some people at nearly once, and that was only at 9/11.
So yeah, we should be patting ourselves on the back for the death of bin Laden.


Saying: "we did it!" is different (and much acceptable) to going: "YES! HE'S DEAD!!!! PARTY!!!!!!! *waves flag* USA! USA! USA!"
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Postby Norfsex » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:21 am

Well, certainly. It is only proper to rejoice upon the death of your foe, knowing full well he have rejoiced slaying 3,000 of your people for no particular actions of theirs. It is revenge, and it should be enjoyed.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:24 am

Existential_Nihilists wrote:Well, I don't know, but it's reported that we have also killed his replacement.

yeah i think they are going to stop talking about whoever is going to take over.

its bad for their health.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:24 am

I'm against the celebrations, mainly because its inciting hatred from the remaining people of Al-Qaeda, and I don't like the idea of celebrating death. I find it reprehensible.

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