The Black Hawks set a new record!

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Well, it's fun, and it's a lot more fun when you try to take on regions in such a way that the defenders might actually try to stop you. That said, I'm certainly not impressed by Halcones' efforts any longer. Back when he cleared 10 in an update with precision timing, that was impressive. It's not anymore. I'd like to see him achieve the same precision timing with ten troops moving at once. I'd like to see him hit a target with any degree of significance, history, and an active Delegate with more than two endorsements. I'd like to see him take a region and hold it for a week.

What you do now is tired, it's old hat, it's boring to watch, and frankly I cannot understand how it isn't boring to do. Marking up the WFE of a region with no active players in it anymore cannot even be declared an annoyance. It's just a thing that happened. Do something worthwhile, would you?

I agree with Ollie. It's not real raiding anymore; it's just WFE spam.

I third this motion. WHile it obviously takes a great deal of skill and expertise to accomplish this, it certainly isn't the unstoppable whirlwind of death you make it out to be. You're no better than very efficent grafitti artists. WHich leaves you with these options:

1. Get a bigger army and actually accomplish something new and worthwhile.
2. In the event that that doesn't work out, I'm sure you'd make an excellent drill sargeant somewhere.
3. If you can't swallow that, then just stop playing.

You're style of raiding has lost it's relvance to the point we're even us fellow raiders simply don't care anymore. As such you need to make a change to your organization, or PLEASE leave the raiding game and retire.

[Whiskum]

It must be noted that the tactics used to take small regions under discussion here are equally applicable to bigger regions when used by larger forces and that far from there being no defender resistance to them, on the rare occasion where defenders, in particular the FRA, due to difficulties in the timing, can spot 'raids' carried out using these tactics, they will try to intervene. It may not create as good an impression as it did when it first came around, because the shine has come off as it is no longer new, and other forms of invading may have more significance, but this is still a respectable practice. It is undoubtedly a skilled activity and a valid, if not the most preferable, form of invasion.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

It must be noted that the tactics used to take small regions under discussion here are equally applicable to bigger regions when used by larger forces and that far from there being no defender resistance to them, on the rare occasion where defenders, in particular the FRA, due to difficulties in the timing, can spot 'raids' carried out using these tactics, they will try to intervene. It may not create as good an impression as it did when it first came around, because the shine has come off as it is no longer new, and other forms of invading may have more significance, but this is still a respectable practice. It is undoubtedly a skilled activity and a valid, if not the most preferable, form of invasion.

Is that you Kelkia? Anyway what you said was true. My problem with this isn't the tactics he employs, it's where he employs them. Indeed, you should know I raid exactly the same way. A raid just doesn't feel like a raid unless it makes the natives squirm a little.

[Halcones]

Indeed.

The problem is The Black Hawks do not have such a large force as Europeia. Instead, we stretch our quality and ensure we still make a show with only two or three troops. We are trying to push recruitment to build up a larger army, and when we have one, I ensure you'll know about it.

What I would like to see is Europeia use their large force to take large targets with my timing.

If a raider army is reduced to two or three troops, don't expect it to resign. In most cases this will happen, but not with The Black Hawks. However few troops we have, we'll do what we can.

[Earth22]

I don't see how raiding ten empty regions in a night would be considered 'quality'.

Europeia's an independent region; we go as we please in a quality fashion that isn't just graffiti. We take targets we want when we have the forces to. We respect the game enough to know that WFE spam is pointless. We'd rather do joint-raids then waste 10 puppets a night.

It's good to see that TBH isn't resigning; raiders need more troops like that and that is quite commendable. The problem is, though, it's not real raiding anymore--and I do recall TBH having allies across the raider world; there's nothing stopping you from focusing more on quality rather than quantity.

Earth22

[Halcones]

Quantity if having large numbers of troops. Quality is being able to stretch only a few troops to still do a lot of raids.

The Black Hawks is always happy to work with its allies.

[Savaer]

Personally, I still prefer a singular raid where there was some functional risk to it. I've never been one for graffiti artistry, but tbh.. 19 in one night doesn't impress me much. To be truthful, 19 in one night just makes me ask myself why go through the effort of puppet making when you burn a massive supply for something that'll end up being re-tatted by another raid region, or that when the defenders simply say piss on it, you end up reraiding your own tats?

[Halcones]

Actually they have given up detagging now. This is exactly what we want because it leaves hundreds of regions advertising The Black Hawks. Plus all those wonderful embassies we have - that vast number of embassies may be attractive. All the regions we hit we add the "Recruiter friendly" tag to - this attracts recruiters (check them out - it's already happening), creating multiple region links which feed into The Black Hawks.

There is a recruitment push behind this as well - recruitment being what we need to build up a larger army to make you guys impressed again.

[Earth22]

Actually they have given up detagging now. This is exactly what we want because it leaves hundreds of regions advertising The Black Hawks. Plus all those wonderful embassies we have - that vast number of embassies may be attractive. All the regions we hit we add the "Recruiter friendly" tag to - this attracts recruiters (check them out - it's already happening), creating multiple region links which feed into The Black Hawks.

To be honest, that sounds like trolling to me.

[Kalibarr]

I like how the region recruiting in the regions TBH tagged as recruiter friendly labeled its self defender on the embassy application on my forum...

[The Murtunian Tribes]

I like how the region recruiting in the regions TBH tagged as recruiter friendly labeled its self defender on the embassy application on my forum...

The irony is palpable.

[Herrebrugh]

I agree with Ollie. It's not real raiding anymore; it's just WFE spam.

I third this motion. WHile it obviously takes a great deal of skill and expertise to accomplish this, it certainly isn't the unstoppable whirlwind of death you make it out to be. You're no better than very efficent grafitti artists. WHich leaves you with these options:

1. Get a bigger army and actually accomplish something new and worthwhile.
2. In the event that that doesn't work out, I'm sure you'd make an excellent drill sargeant somewhere.
3. If you can't swallow that, then just stop playing.

You're style of raiding has lost it's relvance to the point we're even us fellow raiders simply don't care anymore. As such you need to make a change to your organization, or PLEASE leave the raiding game and retire.

*coughs* Fourthed. Can I go now? I don't want to miss my show.

[The FTR]

I third this motion. WHile it obviously takes a great deal of skill and expertise to accomplish this, it certainly isn't the unstoppable whirlwind of death you make it out to be. You're no better than very efficent grafitti artists. WHich leaves you with these options:

1. Get a bigger army and actually accomplish something new and worthwhile.
2. In the event that that doesn't work out, I'm sure you'd make an excellent drill sargeant somewhere.
3. If you can't swallow that, then just stop playing.

You're style of raiding has lost it's relvance to the point we're even us fellow raiders simply don't care anymore. As such you need to make a change to your organization, or PLEASE leave the raiding game and retire.

*coughs* Fourthed. Can I go now? I don't want to miss my show.

I agree as well.

[Sedgistan]

There was a month between posts - given that you had nothing new to add, there was no need to post.