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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:11 pm

Of course he hasn't been captured. It would be all over the TV, radio and internet if he had.
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Postby The South Islands » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:12 pm

I'm calling bullshit.
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Postby Hawaii And Midway » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:13 pm

They won't find him if they haven't already, hes prolly not even in Afghanistan anymore.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:13 pm

Looks like the attacks in Pakistan are important. we should keep them up.
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Postby The South Islands » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:13 pm

Hawaii And Midway wrote:They won't find him if they haven't already, hes prolly not even in Afghanistan anymore.


He's not even alive anymore, methinks.
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Postby The Northern Baltic » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:14 pm

I saw something awhile ago on Fox News (was flipping through the channels... normally don't watch Fox) and it was that scrolling text on the bottom and it said something about how the government narrowed Bin Laden's house down to one of three houses in this remote town in Northern Pakistan. Never heard anything relating to that again.

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Postby Aligeretha » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:14 pm

Aww shit! I thought that this was for real for a moment and I was all excited. Too bad, I was hoping that we caught the bastard.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:15 pm

Comaack wrote:Still close enough for me! :)
Hope we do find him. I was so happy when my friend told me.

How is one of his children "close enough for [you]", particularly considering he has anywhere from 12-26 children, none of which have been implicated in his crimes?

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Postby Xin Han » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:15 pm

My guess is, is that we know exactly where he is and we are tracking his movements. I am guessing that we haven't picked him up or killed him because Bin Laden has orders to commit acts of terror if the US detains him or kills him. That's just my crack pot theory...or that he is already dead and has been dead for quite some time.
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Postby Dakini » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:16 pm

The South Islands wrote:
Hawaii And Midway wrote:They won't find him if they haven't already, hes prolly not even in Afghanistan anymore.


He's not even alive anymore, methinks.

Yeah, wasn't he on dialysis?

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Postby Xin Han » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:17 pm

Dakini wrote:
The South Islands wrote:
Hawaii And Midway wrote:They won't find him if they haven't already, hes prolly not even in Afghanistan anymore.


He's not even alive anymore, methinks.

Yeah, wasn't he on dialysis?


That's what I heard, or that he died of cholera or is suffering from it.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:20 pm

Comaack wrote:Alright, I am really dissappointed. I guess I misunderstood my friends. But, I think that we are wiping out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. I predict the within the year, the Taliban will be wiped out, Al-Qaeda Making a last stand, Iran in Revolution, and Fundamental Islam in Shambles. Bin Laden will be found by this time next year in my opinion.

None of that has happened in the last 8 years since 9/11, nor the last 16 years since the first attack on the WTC. Taliban is increasing its efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and if anything will just be driven underground. Al-Qaeda is far from being done. They might be rattled at best, but an organization as large and decentralized will be nigh impossible to eradicate. Iran likely won't hit a full revolution, and, if they do, there is no promise that it will end on either side. Fundamental Islam is no more scarred than fundamental Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism or any other religion.

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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:22 pm

Dakini wrote:Yeah, wasn't he on dialysis?


Dialysis 8 years ago in a cave somewhere = dead now, I reckon.
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:23 pm

Comaack wrote:Alright, I am really dissappointed. I guess I misunderstood my friends. But, I think that we are wiping out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. I predict the within the year, the Taliban will be wiped out, Al-Qaeda Making a last stand, Iran in Revolution, and Fundamental Islam in Shambles. Bin Laden will be found by this time next year in my opinion.

What are you basing that prediction on?

The Taliban don't seem to be substantially weakened at all (the opposite looks more likely) and many parts of Afghanistan simply won't be able to take part in the upcoming elections.

Al-Qaeda doesn't exist other than on the internet and anonymous bank accounts. I'm not sure how that's supposed to be making a stand, let alone a last one.

Iran in revolution is something I'd love to see for the benefit of the younger generation there, but it doesn't look like it will happen at this point. As long as the police stands on the side of the Supreme Council, the protests won't bring down the government, and certainly not the system.

What is fundamental Islam?
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Postby James Bluntus » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:23 pm

Aligeretha wrote:Aww shit! I thought that this was for real for a moment and I was all excited. Too bad, I was hoping that we caught the bastard.


Yeah same here. Damn it >:( ah well easy mistake to make. The quicker the arsehole is caught the better.
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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:26 pm

Comaack wrote:If Iran goes into Revolution, the terrorists will go unfunded.


What gives you this idea? Mousavi isn't pro-West in the slightest.
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Re: Bin Laden Captured!

Postby Katganistan » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:28 pm

Comaack wrote:Alright, I am really dissappointed. I guess I misunderstood my friends. But, I think that we are wiping out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. I predict the within the year, the Taliban will be wiped out, Al-Qaeda Making a last stand, Iran in Revolution, and Fundamental Islam in Shambles. Bin Laden will be found by this time next year in my opinion.

I predict that next year there will be another Harry Potter sequel, and that my prediction is more likely to be true than yours.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:29 pm

No Names Left Damn It wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah, wasn't he on dialysis?


Dialysis 8 years ago in a cave somewhere = dead now, I reckon.

unless he got a suicide donor.
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Postby Kameiras » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:32 pm

Comaack wrote:I think it is a Generational thing. Most of the last Generation in Iran is Fundamentalists, but most of Iran's youth are not Fundamentalists. There is no changing the mind of a Fundamentalist, so their children will have to end it. By 2050, most Fundamentalists will be very old or dead, and Iran will be a Democracy, Terrorism based on Fundamental Islam will be dead, Cuba's Communist System dead, Bin Laden will definitely dead.

If we do get him though, Al-Qaeda's Only Figurehead will be gone, and what is left of them will be in disarray. Cut off the Head of the Snake and the rest will die, or if you are in China, cut off the head of a snake, cut if up, then eat it, crap it out, flush it, then it will be fertilizer.


What.

The.

Fuck?

Are you basing these wild-ass predictions on actual data collected by a neutral party or are you just pulling something straight out of your devil-shoot?

Me thinks devil-shoot.
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Postby James Bluntus » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:33 pm

Comaack wrote:Alright, I am really dissappointed. I guess I misunderstood my friends. But, I think that we are wiping out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. I predict the within the year, the Taliban will be wiped out, Al-Qaeda Making a last stand, Iran in Revolution, and Fundamental Islam in Shambles. Bin Laden will be found by this time next year in my opinion.


I don't believe that America, Australia and England are wiping out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. If they were then the latest Bali Bombings wouldn't have happened in my opinion. I think a year is a little too optimistic. He hasn't been caught in like 9 years. how are they going to find him in this time frame. The latest statistics and predictions from the Australian Government is that we will be in Afganastan for the next 5 years, probably more. The only victory our side has had in the last 9 years is Saddam Hussain being executed. This is far from over in my opinion. Some might disagree with me but we all have our own opinions and that is my 2 cents.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:34 pm

Comaack wrote:Yes, but with recent declines of attacks in Iraq, their influence is going down in that region. They might even get rid of Terrorism in Iraq within 5 years. If Iran goes into Revolution, the terrorists will go unfunded. If we Invade Somalia, we can get rid of Al-Qaeda for good.

Um...no. A) The attacks in Iraq have been against Coalition soldiers. As of about a week ago, it is only US soldiers, and only outside of cities. Fewer targets in fewer "vital" areas = fewer attacks...not less influence. Given the sectarian differences between Sunni, Shia, and Kurds, and the general atmosphere of the region, I wouldn't count on a lack of terrorism. We haven't even succeeded in eradicating domestic terrorism in the US, let alone any other country.
IF Iran goes into revolution is a huge question. Even if they do, that is not particularly tied to the funding of Al-Qaeda or any other terrorist organization, which recieve funding through literally thousands of paths, both legitimate and illigitimate. And Somalia is hardly the last stronghold of Al-Qaeda. They aren't a national government...it isn't so easy as "destroy where their strongholds are", as they are highly decentralized. Cell A can exist independed of cells B-ZZZZ

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Postby No Names Left Damn It » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:34 pm

James Bluntus wrote:The only victory our side has had in the last 9 years is Saddam Hussain being executed.


As well as the removal of the Taliban from Afghanistan.
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Postby Kameiras » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:35 pm

Comaack wrote:Devil Shoot.


Figured.

Glad we had this discussion, Comaack.

-leaves you to your asinine predictions-

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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:36 pm

Comaack wrote:I think it is a Generational thing. Most of the last Generation in Iran is Fundamentalists, but most of Iran's youth are not Fundamentalists. There is no changing the mind of a Fundamentalist, so their children will have to end it. By 2050, most Fundamentalists will be very old or dead, and Iran will be a Democracy, Terrorism based on Fundamental Islam will be dead, Cuba's Communist System dead, Bin Laden will definitely dead.

I agree with Iran and the time frame, the rest of it seems a wee bit far-fetched. Cuba's system will change, but I wouldn't be able to say at what point the "communist" system is gone. And terrorism based on Islamism won't go away any more than any other kind of terrorism aimed at achieving undefined goals is. You can end terrorism in Northern Island because there is a political solution to the conflict. Same (to a large degree) in Palestine. But how you would end some random person in London blowing up a bus because that's what the internet told him to do, I wouldn't know. I see no tendency for disaffected idiots without girlfriends to die out.

If we do get him though, Al-Qaeda's Only Figurehead will be gone, and what is left of them will be in disarray. Cut off the Head of the Snake and the rest will die, or if you are in China, cut off the head of a snake, cut if up, then eat it, crap it out, flush it, then it will be fertilizer.

Al Qaeda isn't a snake. I don't know whether the media you usually watch hasn't done a very good job explaining this, but there is no such thing as an Al Qaeda organisation anymore. There are lots of little groups, some no more than five people, with no more linkage than that they frequent the same forum. They get their training over the web, money (if needed) from sources unknown (though often in pro-US oil countries) and that's it. No one to invade, no way of responding other than with the usual criminal investigations. And we all know how useful those have been in eradicating child pornography for example.
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