Who was the best Communist leader CLOSED

by **Rostovski** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:38 pm

Who d'you think is the best?

I think Lenin, but Im jaded

stop posting here, damn you

by **Yootwopia** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:40 pm

Honecker, because I love controversy.

Also, inb4 'Gorbachev for ending it'.

by **Occupied Deutschland** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:40 pm

Why Lenin?

Also, if we're going by body-count Mao wins hands-down, though Stalin is a close second.

Edit: "Gorbachev for ending it"...I should have thought of that!

by **Rolamec** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:40 pm

A dead one?

by **Rostovski** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:43 pm

Yootwopia wrote:Also, inb4 'Gorbachev for ending it'.

Gorby was a traitor! :evil:

by **Rostovski** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:44 pm

and actually, for terror, its Pol Pot

by **New Manvir** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:52 pm

I'll go with Alexander Dubeck just because I'm curious as to how well his reforms would have turned out.

by **Call to power** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:54 pm

Yootwopia wrote:Honecker, because I love controversy.

will have to go with this, despite GDR currency issues and being a bit of a wanker towards glasnost he did a great deal to raise the living standards of East Germany and relations with the West

by **Octopucta** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:09 pm

Rolamec wrote:A dead one?

*RARGH* Soviet Russia wasn't true Communism because it deviated from Karl Marx's ideals, and neither was China *RARGH*

Agreed, though some communists who weren't also dictators would be nice.

by **Rolamec** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:11 pm

Octopucta wrote:
Rolamec wrote:A dead one?

*RARGH* Soviet Russia wasn't true Communism because it deviated from Karl Marx's ideals, and neither was China *RARGH*

Agreed, though some communists who weren't also dictators would be nice.

Communism is impossible to achieve. It can never be done. It has noted to exist in cases of complete isolationism, but that is really it. And the punishment for crimes, even as minor as stealing, was usually death.

Anyway, if I had to say one, probably Tito.

by **Roman Cilicia** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:12 pm

Stalin FFS.

by **Zirconim** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:13 pm

Rolamec wrote:A dead one?

I dun got ninja'd. Kinda. :lol:

by **Sun Aut Ex** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:13 pm

Ceaucescu, because they managed to get him.

by **Imperiya** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:14 pm

V.I. Lenin

Leninism was considerably more practical than Marxism, and much more user-friendly than Stalinism.

...and to those that would counter with his Red Terror, think of the state Russia was in at the time. It makes Iraq look like a picnic.

by **Darmen** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:15 pm

FIDEL CASTRO or Uncle Ho.

by **Secunderabad** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:15 pm

Subcomandante Marcos

by **New Freedomstan** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:16 pm

Karl Marx. Followed by Lenin.
Khruschev one of the worst. His "liberalisation" led to the end of the USSR along with a decrease from the massive growth experienced during the Stalinist period. Although I do think his heart was in the right place, that is worthless compared to consequences. I would have called Gorby the worst, but he wasn't a communist. He even founded a social-democratic party in Russia after the dismantlement.

And Pol Pot was about as communist as Bush. He was even funded by the CIA as a last "f*** you" to Vietnam.

by **Yootwopia** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:18 pm

New Freedomstan wrote:Karl Marx. Followed by Lenin.

Karl Marx was a dole bludger, not a communist leader.

Khruschev one of the worst. His "liberalisation" led to the end of the USSR along with a decrease from the massive growth experienced during the Stalinist period. Although I do think his heart was in the right place, that is worthless compared to consequences.

I would blame that more on his utterly failtastic Virgin and Idle Lands project rather than any supposed liberalisation.

by **Call to power** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:19 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:Stalin FFS.

I agree that a heavy drinker with a love for westerns sounds like the ideal enemy of western capitalism and its a shame Reagan came much later tbh

by **Roman Cilicia** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:21 pm

Stalin did the most for communism. He defeated fascism and made Russia what it is now - a corpulent, bloated paradise.

by **Coccygia** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:23 pm

Gorbachev, for ending it. The only one worth a fart in the wind. The rest were monsters.

by **Imperiya** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:24 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:Stalin did the most for communism. He defeated fascism and made Russia what it is now - a corpulent, bloated paradise.

He didn't defeat Fascism, his generals did. Unlike Addy, Joe was willing to listen to the men that actually knew what they were doing.

by **Rolamec** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:26 pm

Imperiya wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:Stalin did the most for communism. He defeated fascism and made Russia what it is now - a corpulent, bloated paradise.

He didn't defeat Fascism, his generals did. Unlike Addy, Joe was willing to listen to the men that actually knew what they were doing.

More like the millions of poor suckers who were forced to charge up hills and against guns regardless if they were fed, gunned or armed in anyway.

by **Sorratsin** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:27 pm

Tito or Honecker.

Honecker's contributions have already been mentioned, Tito may have been an authoritarian wanker but worked tirelessly to insure Yugoslavia was free of soviet influence, and his foreign policy was great.

by **Imperiya** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:29 pm

Rolamec wrote:
Imperiya wrote:

He didn't defeat Fascism, his generals did. Unlike Addy, Joe was willing to listen to the men that actually knew what they were doing.

More like the millions of poor suckers who were forced to charge up hills and against guns regardless if they were fed, gunned or armed in anyway.

You work with what you have, am I right?

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