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The Richard Bastion Republic
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Sex, Contraceptives, Birth CRTL, All Bad

Postby The Richard Bastion Republic » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:00 pm

Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan. Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.
Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.
If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun. If you are bored find another hobby besides sex. People should have sex to increase the population. With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved. A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military. The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's. Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes. Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant. Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.

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Kaleer
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Postby Kaleer » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:02 pm

Flame baiting is flame baiting, moving on.

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Postby TaQud » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:02 pm

so your asexual then?
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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:02 pm

You sir, are either an excellent troll or a madman with a proverbial death wish.

I would applaud you but I'm too busy making popcorn.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:03 pm

I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".
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Postby TaQud » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:05 pm

How else are you suppose tor reproduce? (other then lab testing and experiemntation)
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:08 pm

Hahahahahahahaha!!
Oh, the biologically incorrect and anti-science nonsense!
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:09 pm

Do you have any fucking clue about any of the topics on which you speak or are you just talking out of your arse?

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Postby SaintB » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:09 pm

I vote troll, he named himself after a conservative pundit from GTA
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Postby Dermastina » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:09 pm

Kaleer wrote:Flame baiting is flame baiting, moving on.

Interestingly, this is actually the stance taken by the Roman Catholic church due to what, in my opinion, was a horrible and lasting miss interpretation of Aquinas's ethical theory.
Pro: Good things
Anti: Bad things

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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:10 pm

SaintB wrote:I vote troll, he named himself after a conservative pundit from GTA

I thought that his name looked familiar.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:11 pm

I don't really care what you think. Are you trying to pass laws that will attempt to make me obey what you think, though? Then I'd care. Otherwise... go ahead and be miserable.
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Postby The Richard Bastion Republic » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:12 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".


Raper is another word for rapist. Same thing.

Just because my beliefs are different from yours does NOT make me a troll.
Also, I'm NOT a troll this is what I believe in real life. A man should never go south on a woman, because that is ineffective at reproduction. What happened to the olden days when America, and Britain used to hold tightly to there values?
Why does one need to have sex, in order to have fun? Get a hobby.

The only thing that I do like the Japanese for is their use of abstinence, that might be the reason why they are so academically successful.

Moving on with my topic, another issue I'd like to address is MARRIAGE, because it is the only condition under which people should have sex. It is the godly way, and it provides a family for the raising of children. There should not be babies borne out of wedlock.

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:12 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".

He said "soul" first, which was as far as I needed to get.
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The better jesusland
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Postby The better jesusland » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:12 pm

I could not agree more!
It has been shown that the increase in pre marital sex relates directly to drug use and violent crime.
This is why there was such a spike in the 1970s which as just after the free love concept of the hippies!
When people turn their back on the morals god gave them they descend into hedonistic and animal like urges where murder doesn't seem like a bad thing.

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Postby Yuktova » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:13 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan. Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.
Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.
If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun. If you are bored find another hobby besides sex. People should have sex to increase the population. With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved. A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military. The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's. Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes. Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant. Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.

You do know that the Earth's current population cant be sustained without all our technology, and we're currently facing overpopulation? Right?

Oh wait, your that type of conservative who ignores science, carry on.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:13 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".


Raper is another word for rapist. Same thing.

Just because my beliefs are different from yours does NOT make me a troll.
Also, I'm NOT a troll this is what I believe in real life. A man should never go south on a woman, because that is ineffective at reproduction. What happened to the olden days when America, and Britain used to hold tightly to there values?
Why does one need to have sex, in order to have fun? Get a hobby.

The only thing that I do like the Japanese for is their use of abstinence, that might be the reason why they are so academically successful.

Moving on with my topic, another issue I'd like to address is MARRIAGE, because it is the only condition under which people should have sex. It is the godly way, and it provides a family for the raising of children. There should not be babies borne out of wedlock.

Did it ever occur to you that, among consenting adults, not one article of your drivel is any of your fucking business?

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Postby Dude Ranch » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:13 pm

Hmm? Sorry, I can hear you over the porn I am watching.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:14 pm

1.5/10
Troll harder.
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The Richard Bastion Republic
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Postby The Richard Bastion Republic » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:14 pm

TaQud wrote:How else are you suppose tor reproduce? (other then lab testing and experiemntation)


I don't mean sex is bad, but it is bad if it is for pleasure. Did you not read my first post?

Sorry for double posting.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:16 pm

The better jesusland wrote:I could not agree more!
It has been shown that the increase in pre marital sex relates directly to drug use and violent crime.
This is why there was such a spike in the 1970s which as just after the free love concept of the hippies!
When people turn their back on the morals god gave them they descend into hedonistic and animal like urges where murder doesn't seem like a bad thing.

Well, what is a good fuck without a decent human sacrifice afterwards? I figured a religious person would realize that a sacrifice isn't murder.
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Also, me.
“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic”
- Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian Novelist and Writer, 1821-1881
"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:16 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".


Raper is another word for rapist. Same thing.

Idk about that...
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:16 pm

The Victorian Age called; they want their attitudes and morality returned just the way you found them!


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Postby Indira » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:17 pm

The Richard Bastion Republic wrote:Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan. Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.
Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.
If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun. If you are bored find another hobby besides sex. People should have sex to increase the population. With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved. A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military. The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's. Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes. Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant. Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.


Sigh. I guess you're pro-life as well? I'm actually pro-life, BUT it is hypocritical for me to be pro-life and anti-contraception. Contraception prevents conception and therefore prevents the need (or desire) for abortion.

Sex is for more than just procreation. From what I understand, it also has a role in social bonding.

The human population is 7BILLION people. We really don't need more and the fact that the population of the planet is growing is reason for concern.

How exactly does a larger population lead to a larger military? Militaries are the size that they are because of their budgets and no amount of population growth will change that. Besides, this is the 21st century, not the nineteenth. Size is less important.

Masturbation has been practised by both sexes for a VERY long time. I suspect that it goes back by centuries.

I shall assume this is a joke and be done with, but seriously? You come on NSG, you'd better make some decent arguments

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Postby Samuraikoku » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:17 pm

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