by Homosexy » Wed May 02, 2012 12:47 pm
by Raeyh » Wed May 02, 2012 12:50 pm
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
by Vaugania » Wed May 02, 2012 12:52 pm
by Proloteriat » Wed May 02, 2012 12:54 pm
Vaugania wrote:Solution = add rape to the list of capital crimes. Or at least severe cases.
This is something that is a bane to society and needs to stop.
by Homosexy » Wed May 02, 2012 12:54 pm
Raeyh wrote:There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
It's just a fictional book/movie, don't take it seriously. A chilling effect in fiction is bad.
by Arkinesia » Wed May 02, 2012 12:55 pm
Homosexy wrote:There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Homosexy wrote:Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped?
Homosexy wrote:Why is it such a taboo subject?
Homosexy wrote:Should it be talked about more than it already is?
Homosexy wrote:Are the forms of awareness that we're using now working?
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by Maroza » Wed May 02, 2012 12:57 pm
by Anarchist Lands » Wed May 02, 2012 12:57 pm
I personally have not seen the movie, but I believe that, and no offense, it should be allowed in the movie because of simply free speech. Some people may not like the fact that it is in the movie, but the producers have a right to put it in there.There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped?
Why is it such a taboo subject?
Should it be talked about more than it already is?
Are the forms of awareness that we're using now working?
by Laerod » Wed May 02, 2012 1:01 pm
Homosexy wrote:Last Saturday, I became a victim and now a survivor of a rape. Before this, I did not know about this world that I would soon be thrown into where more than 3 out of the 10 people I told, replied with "me too". Where the 1 in 5 girls in the United States statistic becomes a real thing. So I'm becoming very passionate about the topic, and would like to use NSG as an opportunity to discuss the topic, try to raise awareness, and finally just kind of try to figure out why it has to happen, and how we can remedy it. I'm coming out with it, as soon as I am, because I want to put a name and a face to the statistic, and bring in my raw, week old experience, to do something about it.
Homosexy wrote:Raeyh wrote:
It's just a fictional book/movie, don't take it seriously. A chilling effect in fiction is bad.
I'm not talking about censoring the content, or the fact that a rape occurred. I'm talking about the version of the movie where the rape scene happens, and instead of taking a bit more of another artistic approach, perhaps, the scene is blunt and graphic. Here's an article about it:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainme ... ttoo-rape/
The scene is disgusting and would be a major trigger to anyone watching who has survived/endured events happening to them.
by Yandere Schoolgirls » Wed May 02, 2012 1:03 pm
Homosexy wrote:There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped? Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?
by The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Wed May 02, 2012 1:19 pm
by Tekania » Wed May 02, 2012 1:19 pm
by 1000 Cats » Wed May 02, 2012 1:23 pm
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by The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Wed May 02, 2012 1:25 pm
by Tahar Joblis » Wed May 02, 2012 1:27 pm
Homosexy wrote:Last Saturday, I became a victim and now a survivor of a rape. Before this, I did not know about this world that I would soon be thrown into where more than 3 out of the 10 people I told, replied with "me too". Where the 1 in 5 girls in the United States statistic becomes a real thing.
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped?
Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?
by Conserative Morality » Wed May 02, 2012 1:27 pm
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
by Norstal » Wed May 02, 2012 1:29 pm
Homosexy wrote:
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped? Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?
Are the forms of awareness that we're using now working?
Anything else that people want to throw in, go ahead. I only ask that people are respectful and think before you speak, because there may be survivors and victims reading this, and I don't want to be responsible for anything too traumatic. This is a safe space. If you don't have something nice or productive to say, don't say it at all.
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by Auremena » Wed May 02, 2012 1:30 pm
by Homosexy » Wed May 02, 2012 1:31 pm
1000 Cats wrote:Rape is a rather complex phenomenon. The reason it's shameful for men is because it's rather emasculating. The reason it's shameful for women, I think, while similar, could be more complex. I hope I don't offend anyone here, but I mentioned in another thread the idea that women may be predisposed towards submitting in violent sexual situations. Simply a survival mechanism: we don't really have very good means of defending ourselves, so evolutionarily speaking it's better to survive and be raped than to die. However, this makes many women wonder if that involuntary submission means they really did "want it" on some level. That fear and confusion is what a lot of women who do not report a rape cite as their reason.
I think rape should become less of a taboo subject. As the OP stated, it's actually really prevalent, but we never know it because no one ever talks about it. It should be treated as the crime it is, with a very real perpetrator and victim, the same way as is murder.
by Astrolinium » Wed May 02, 2012 1:32 pm
by Homosexy » Wed May 02, 2012 1:35 pm
Norstal wrote:I'm curious as to where this happened, but if you don't want to talk about it, it's okay. I'm thinking it can happen everywhere, but I just want to confirm it.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed May 02, 2012 1:35 pm
Homosexy wrote:Last Saturday, I became a victim and now a survivor of a rape. Before this, I did not know about this world that I would soon be thrown into where more than 3 out of the 10 people I told, replied with "me too". Where the 1 in 5 girls in the United States statistic becomes a real thing. So I'm becoming very passionate about the topic, and would like to use NSG as an opportunity to discuss the topic, try to raise awareness, and finally just kind of try to figure out why it has to happen, and how we can remedy it. I'm coming out with it, as soon as I am, because I want to put a name and a face to the statistic, and bring in my raw, week old experience, to do something about it.
Here are some questions to discuss:
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped? Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?
Are the forms of awareness that we're using now working?
Anything else that people want to throw in, go ahead. I only ask that people are respectful and think before you speak, because there may be survivors and victims reading this, and I don't want to be responsible for anything too traumatic. This is a safe space. If you don't have something nice or productive to say, don't say it at all.
by Former Wellboneland » Wed May 02, 2012 1:36 pm
Homosexy wrote:Last Saturday, I became a victim and now a survivor of a rape. Before this, I did not know about this world that I would soon be thrown into where more than 3 out of the 10 people I told, replied with "me too". Where the 1 in 5 girls in the United States statistic becomes a real thing. So I'm becoming very passionate about the topic, and would like to use NSG as an opportunity to discuss the topic, try to raise awareness, and finally just kind of try to figure out why it has to happen, and how we can remedy it. I'm coming out with it, as soon as I am, because I want to put a name and a face to the statistic, and bring in my raw, week old experience, to do something about it.
Here are some questions to discuss:
There's a scene in a version of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo where the rape scene is very graphic. Should it be allowed in there?
Why is it that girls and men are so ashamed when they've been raped? Why is it such a taboo subject? Should it be talked about more than it already is?
Are the forms of awareness that we're using now working?
Anything else that people want to throw in, go ahead. I only ask that people are respectful and think before you speak, because there may be survivors and victims reading this, and I don't want to be responsible for anything too traumatic. This is a safe space. If you don't have something nice or productive to say, don't say it at all.
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by Raeyh » Wed May 02, 2012 1:37 pm
Less importantly, from a cinematographic perspective, something more tasteful, perhaps even off camera with simply shadows shown, would like be much more dramatic and effective than violence, which is a thing we have been in a big way desensitized towards.
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