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Will Obama Improve?

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Will Obama "Improve" after the 2012 election?

Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:24 pm

If Obama wins the election, people will question if Obama has anything else to improve on. (Religion, Economy, terrorism etc) Some say he's already done enough, while others say he hasn't even done anything in office. I would like to hear NS nations on Obama's Improvement after the election. (if he wins it) If he improves give me a issue he will improve in. (Ex. Education, Oil, Military)
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:26 pm

I would like to hear your opinion on this.
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Postby Aethrys » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:26 pm

Hopefully he'll improve by growing a spine and not caving in to absolutely everything the Republicans angrily demand in the spirit of "Bipartisanship".
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Postby Nidaria » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:32 pm

When Obama has a second term, he will no longer be afraid of implementing his schemes. He will turn the economy into a socialist mess and force private institutions to provide for abortion.
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Postby Ertae » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Feels like he's given in on some things and hasn't worked enough to gain support on other things. I really dislike his endorsement of what is pretty much the Bush doctrine as far as foreign relations is concerned. His handling of the economy just took Bush's failure further. We've got tangible gains now, but I wonder how much of that is linked to his policies.

Nidaria wrote:When Obama has a second term, he will no longer be afraid of implementing his schemes. He will turn the economy into a socialist mess and force private institutions to provide for abortion.


Obama isn't a socialist. A socialist might've gotten the job done.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Aethrys wrote:Hopefully he'll improve by growing a spine and not caving in to absolutely everything the Republicans angrily demand in the spirit of "Bipartisanship".

Quit dreaming, he goes off and does everything he wants.
If Republicans try and stop him, he labels them as basically heartless and greedy, and then he goes off spewing ads blaming all of our problems on the GOP and gains unwavering support and goes on his way with what ever he wants.

It's the same BS people like him have been pulling for years.
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Postby The Biased Conservatives » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:34 pm

Nothing to improve on? Who on earth said that? As long as the world turns, there will be things to improve.

But bottom line is that Obama will only make this great nation more Socialist like Europe a terrible place of socialism and too much alcohol.

The thread title here should be not Will Obama improve... it should be "Once Mitt wins what can He do to reverse the devastating Obamanomics and Obama White House Machine policies?"

As that is a much more realistic title albeit a tiny bit longer. But Obama has done so much wrong in his presidency it is despicable!

-War on Christmas
-War on Religion
-Putting Joe Biden to Sleep at a speech
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-Obama-Care
-Being a Secret Muslim
-A Secret Kenyan
-Saying that he wants to decriminalize Marijuana
and the list goes on and on I'm sure of it.

So for the sake of America vote Republican in 2012 as it will save america.
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Postby Renascibilitas » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:37 pm

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Nothing to improve on? Who on earth said that? As long as the world turns, there will be things to improve.

But bottom line is that Obama will only make this great nation more Socialist like Europe a terrible place of socialism and too much alcohol.

The thread title here should be not Will Obama improve... it should be "Once Mitt wins what can He do to reverse the devastating Obamanomics and Obama White House Machine policies?"

As that is a much more realistic title albeit a tiny bit longer. But Obama has done so much wrong in his presidency it is despicable!

-War on Christmas
-War on Religion
-Putting Joe Biden to Sleep at a speech [spoiler](Image)

-Obama-Care
-Being a Secret Muslim
-A Secret Kenyan
-Saying that he wants to decriminalize Marijuana
and the list goes on and on I'm sure of it.

So for the sake of America vote Republican in 2012 as it will save america.[/spoiler]


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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:37 pm

No. Which is better than Romney.

The Biased Conservatives wrote:Nothing to improve on? Who on earth said that? As long as the world turns, there will be things to improve.

But bottom line is that Obama will only make this great nation more Socialist like Europe a terrible place of socialism and too much alcohol.

The thread title here should be not Will Obama improve... it should be "Once Mitt wins what can He do to reverse the devastating Obamanomics and Obama White House Machine policies?"

As that is a much more realistic title albeit a tiny bit longer. But Obama has done so much wrong in his presidency it is despicable!

-War on Christmas
-War on Religion
-Putting Joe Biden to Sleep at a speech
-Obama-Care
-Being a Secret Muslim
-A Secret Kenyan
-Saying that he wants to decriminalize Marijuana
and the list goes on and on I'm sure of it.

So for the sake of America vote Republican in 2012 as it will save america.


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Postby The Pink Followers » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:38 pm

Whatever he does, its better than the alternative.

I'm looking at you, right of center right.
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Postby Wirbel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:38 pm

Ertae wrote:Feels like he's given in on some things and hasn't worked enough to gain support on other things. I really dislike his endorsement of what is pretty much the Bush doctrine as far as foreign relations is concerned. His handling of the economy just took Bush's failure further. We've got tangible gains now, but I wonder how much of that is linked to his policies.

Nidaria wrote:When Obama has a second term, he will no longer be afraid of implementing his schemes. He will turn the economy into a socialist mess and force private institutions to provide for abortion.


Obama isn't a socialist. A socialist might've gotten the job done.


Give an example of one socialist country that had a good quality of life and a good economy. No theoretical models- only real life examples.
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Postby Aquophia » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:40 pm

No. He even mentioned in a leaked microphone conversation that winning the election will make him "more flexable", meaning that he wont have to worry about any political opposition and can lean as far to the left as he wants to. You will see obama stop appeasing the right and return back to the "first two years" phase when he was handing out stimulus checks, passing healthcare bills without reading them, and baling out car businesses that should have failed.
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Postby Vousielle » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Nidaria wrote:When Obama has a second term, he will no longer be afraid of implementing his schemes. He will turn the economy into a socialist mess and force private institutions to provide for abortion.

Psssh, no way. He will personally perform forced abortions on national television and in front of his own children.

Wait, we were talking about shit that wont happen right?
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Postby The Pink Followers » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:41 pm

Wirbel wrote:
Ertae wrote:Feels like he's given in on some things and hasn't worked enough to gain support on other things. I really dislike his endorsement of what is pretty much the Bush doctrine as far as foreign relations is concerned. His handling of the economy just took Bush's failure further. We've got tangible gains now, but I wonder how much of that is linked to his policies.



Obama isn't a socialist. A socialist might've gotten the job done.


Give an example of one socialist country that had a good quality of life and a good economy. No theoretical models- only real life examples.

America post 2012, apparently.
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Postby Ende » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:41 pm

I don't know.

What I do know is that he gave a fucking 535 million bailout to Soylendra, which then went bankrupt, gave fucking stimulus to failing corporations, and blocked the Keystone Pipeline and has refused all proposals to do any oil drilling in the US, and has increased the size of the government while raising the national debt.

Maybe he'll fix some of that shit after the election.

I highly doubt it.
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Postby Wirbel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:42 pm

Vousielle wrote:
Nidaria wrote:When Obama has a second term, he will no longer be afraid of implementing his schemes. He will turn the economy into a socialist mess and force private institutions to provide for abortion.

Psssh, no way. He will personally perform forced abortions on national television and in front of his own children.

Wait, we were talking about shit that wont happen right?


You left out the socialist mess- he can still do that.
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Postby Ravineworld » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:42 pm

I hope.
Here's what he needs to get done, and immediately:
1. Get some leadership skills in climate change meetings. We need to start fixing the earth.
2. Attempt to create massive preserves across at least 2/3 of the US. And that includes waters as well.
3. Pull us out of Afghanistan.
4. Help get 3rd parties equal representation in the media.

That's what I feel like he should be at least attempting to do with a second term
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Postby Wirbel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Ende wrote:I don't know.

What I do know is that he gave a fucking 535 million bailout to Soylendra, which then went bankrupt, gave stimulus to failing corporations, and blocked the Keystone Pipeline and has refused all proposals to do any oil drilling in the US, and has increased the size of the government while raising the national debt.

Maybe he'll fix some of that shit after the election.


Maybe he'll He won't fix some any of that shit after the election.
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Postby Ertae » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Wirbel wrote:
Ertae wrote:Feels like he's given in on some things and hasn't worked enough to gain support on other things. I really dislike his endorsement of what is pretty much the Bush doctrine as far as foreign relations is concerned. His handling of the economy just took Bush's failure further. We've got tangible gains now, but I wonder how much of that is linked to his policies.



Obama isn't a socialist. A socialist might've gotten the job done.


Give an example of one socialist country that had a good quality of life and a good economy. No theoretical models- only real life examples.


'Twas a joke, dearie. True high-quality socialism won't work without some kind of market, even one overseen by the government, and a large collective of other socialist nations to bounce products back and forth.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Aethrys wrote:Hopefully he'll improve by growing a spine and not caving in to absolutely everything the Republicans angrily demand in the spirit of "Bipartisanship".


On his last term he can simply say "FUCK YOU ELEPHANTS".
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Postby The Pink Followers » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:44 pm

Ravineworld wrote:I hope.
Here's what he needs to get done, and immediately:
1. Get some leadership skills in climate change meetings. We need to start fixing the earth.
2. Attempt to create massive preserves across at least 2/3 of the US. And that includes waters as well.
3. Pull us out of Afghanistan.
4. Help get 3rd parties equal representation in the media.

That's what I feel like he should be at least attempting to do with a second term

That would involve government intervention into the media.

I don't want that.

Nor should he. If the third parties are deserving of media attention, they'll get it. Free market, all that jazz.
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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:44 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Aethrys wrote:Hopefully he'll improve by growing a spine and not caving in to absolutely everything the Republicans angrily demand in the spirit of "Bipartisanship".


On his last term he can simply say "FUCK YOU ELEPHANTS".


I could see him thinking that :lol:
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Postby Vousielle » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:45 pm

Wirbel wrote:
Vousielle wrote:Psssh, no way. He will personally perform forced abortions on national television and in front of his own children.

Wait, we were talking about shit that wont happen right?


You left out the socialist mess- he can still do that.

He won't though, he is a center-right snoozefest.
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Postby Wirbel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:45 pm

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Nah, they'll probably end up in one of the gulags rehabilitation facilities in Siberia.

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Postby Renascibilitas » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:46 pm

Wirbel wrote:
Ertae wrote:
'Twas a joke, dearie. True high-quality socialism won't work without some kind of market, even one overseen by the government, and a large collective of other socialist nations to bounce products back and forth.


It doesn't work because there aren't any incentives. No incentives= No business= No cash flow= No good living quality. People have tried to implement these theoretical models that you dream of, but it hasn't worked yet.


You know you have to work in a socialist nation to get rewards, right?
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