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Postby Cerebella » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:56 am

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The Rejected Realms Seized!
2nd February 2012



In a speech to the region this morning Crown Prince OnderKelkia, Commander of The New Inquisition Armed Forces, said the following:

This major update The New Inquisition victoriously conquered The Rejected Realms. As a game-created region, an old cornerstone of the ADN and a region of over 1,300 nations (with our population boost!) The Rejected Realms is a significant gain in itself. However, what is most important is its membership of the Founderless Regions Alliance. TRR in guaranteeing its security opted, rather than forming broad alliances with the NS world, to surrender its sovereignty to the FRA and lazily assumed that would make it safe. Today, they have been proven wrong. Membership of the FRA is a liability, not a boon.

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Since December 2006, TNI has waged war on the FRA, including The Rejected Realms, for the FRA's gross violation of TNI sovereignty in our region Valhalla. Since then, the FRA have given us much more reason to oppose them: for instance, deliberately framing three of our senior members as their spies. Far from being a mere spectator to these events, The Rejected Realms actively supported the FRA, even as its own leadership hypocritically invaded The South Pacific earlier last year. Participation in the FRA means war with TNI and this the consequence of that. The Rejected Realms has been, however briefly, liberated from the pro-FRA clique which controls it.

Showing our genuine appreciation of the position of The Rejected Realms is in, we have only begun the deconstruction process for its embassy with the FRA. This illustrates how The Rejected Realms gains nothing from FRA membership. The UDL and TITO were prepared (albeit at too late a stage in the day) to defend TRR; the FRA (in its current weakened state) was anything but prepared. Ironically, largely due to the split between TRR and the UDL, the FRA's military presence has become very limited. With the FRA incapable of protecting its own regions, how will it withstand the might of the raider and imperialist world in others?

This is indeed the first time TRR has been invaded with purely military units and no internal endoswapping. The operation to take The Rejected Realms, like all TNIAF missions, was well executed. It was predictated upon tactical surprise and speed. However, it would be amiss not to recognise the significant indirect contribution made by other regions to the operation by coming to TNI's aid in Belgium. The Black Riders (TBR), The Black Hawks (TBH), Europeia, The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE), Xcution, The Black Knights (TBK), United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland (UKB), The Imperial Legion (TIL), Grand Central (GC), Gate of Evil, Democratium, Greater Wetlands, The Kingdom of Denmark, One Big Island, The Shadow Knights, and Empires of Earth (EoE) all have TNI's gratitude for their assistance in Belgium, which in turn led to this victory. Having completed our occupation and removed the obvious UDL presence from Belgium, we are glad to return it to the natives.

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Postby Sheepatropolis » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:04 am

Quite an accomplishment. What will become of TRR now?
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Postby Warzone Codger » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:07 am

Nothing, the WFE even says it is only being held for one update.

6 hours between the invasion and this official statement though. How bureaucratic.
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Postby Cromarty » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:08 am

And the legitimate delegate is already ahead on endos so they couldn't even hold it if they wanted to.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:12 am

Having completed our occupation and removed the obvious UDL presence from Belgium, we are glad to return it to the natives.


To be totally honest, you kicked two natives.
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Postby Ballotonia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:19 am

Cerebella wrote:This is indeed the first time TRR has been invaded with purely military units and no internal endoswapping.


I do recall there have been other cases where a large army was ejected into the Rejected Realms to usurp the delegacy. They failed to hold on to the delegacy as well.

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Postby Campinia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:21 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Having completed our occupation and removed the obvious UDL presence from Belgium, we are glad to return it to the natives.


To be totally honest, you kicked two natives.

That was the "obvious UDL presence" he talked about ;) he missed a few though...

I'm curious how much of those raider organisations mentioned as support were actually aware of the fact that the Belgium occupation was just a ruse to take TRR?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:22 am

Campinia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
To be totally honest, you kicked two natives.

That was the "obvious UDL presence" he talked about ;) he missed a few though...

I'm curious how much of those raider organisations mentioned as support were actually aware of the fact that the Belgium occupation was just a ruse to take TRR?


What did he miss? A few natives or a few UDLers? :p
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Postby Campinia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:25 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Campinia wrote:That was the "obvious UDL presence" he talked about ;) he missed a few though...

I'm curious how much of those raider organisations mentioned as support were actually aware of the fact that the Belgium occupation was just a ruse to take TRR?


What did he miss? A few natives or a few UDLers? :p


A few native UDLers ;)
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Postby Dorlania » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:26 am

Good job TNI, keep hold of that delegacy
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Postby Campinia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:32 am

Dorlania wrote:Good job TNI, keep hold of that delegacy

They have already lost it, the game just doesn't know it yet...
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:49 am

Cerebella wrote:This is indeed the first time TRR has been invaded with purely military units and no internal endoswapping.

Just a quick correction - that's not true. The previous three 'invasions' (Red Kagran, Emperor Matthuis, Aegara) were all conducted by a highly endorsed delegate ejecting a large number of their endorsers, and moving to TRR. The delegacy hasn't been seized by endo-swapping since 2003.

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Postby North East Somerset » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:10 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Cerebella wrote:This is indeed the first time TRR has been invaded with purely military units and no internal endoswapping.

Just a quick correction - that's not true. The previous three 'invasions' (Red Kagran, Emperor Matthuis, Aegara) were all conducted by a highly endorsed delegate ejecting a large number of their endorsers, and moving to TRR. The delegacy hasn't been seized by endo-swapping since 2003.


Just to clarify. The statement said "with purely military units and no internal endoswapping". You can't just choose to ignore half of it. Red Kagran used Taijitu civilians, Emperor Matthuis used TNP civilians and Aegara used Grand Central civilians. This invasion was different in that only military personnel from the TNI operation in Belgium were used. And so the original statement is in fact correct.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:14 am

Still seems a little disingenuous. The 'military units' involved in the current invasion were as much unwitting participants as those in the other three - none of them chose to move to TRR to participate in the invasion. That is, unless they had prior knowledge that it'd take place, in which case there'll be interesting talks between the TRR government and Europeia, Grand Central and One Big Island. But that's someone else's problem, not mine :P

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Postby North East Somerset » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:28 am

Sedgistan wrote:Still seems a little disingenuous. The 'military units' involved in the current invasion were as much unwitting participants as those in the other three - none of them chose to move to TRR to participate in the invasion. That is, unless they had prior knowledge that it'd take place, in which case there'll be interesting talks between the TRR government and Europeia, Grand Central and One Big Island. But that's someone else's problem, not mine :P


I was merely pointing out that the statement was in fact correct, to the contrary of what you had initially expressed. I'm not here to argue with you about how disingenuous it was, and though of course I acknowledge you feel obliged to attempt to sow discord amongst participants now that attempts to spin the statement as untrue have failed, I advise that such attempts will meet with equally little success.
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Postby Campinia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:32 am

Campinia wrote:I'm curious how much of those raider organisations mentioned as support were actually aware of the fact that the Belgium occupation was just a ruse to take TRR?


I'm surprised the Raider Unity evangelists haven't come out to assure us every single raider was of course aware of this, which is why some of them switched votes to the native delegate and others just left (and a few returned to belgium, bewildered...)
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Postby Ballotonia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:34 am

I guess it all depends on how one reads the word "internal". In the context it is used it looks to me like it means "internal to TRR". You now seem to mean endoswapping in any region, so the word "internal" is misleading. Note that leaving that one word out will make the statement far more clear.

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Postby Argo Rhos » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:42 am

Campinia wrote:
Campinia wrote:I'm curious how much of those raider organisations mentioned as support were actually aware of the fact that the Belgium occupation was just a ruse to take TRR?


I'm surprised the Raider Unity evangelists haven't come out to assure us every single raider was of course aware of this, which is why some of them switched votes to the native delegate and others just left (and a few returned to belgium, bewildered...)


Of course we were aware of this. We're all knowing. :P
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Postby Whiskum » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:03 am

Warzone Codger wrote:6 hours between the invasion and this official statement though. How bureaucratic.
The statement was originally written and published on TNI's forum immediately after the raid. It has to be circulated to all embassies, not just the NationStates forum, so distribution is handled separately.
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Postby Chin-Chillas » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:01 am

It's a shame you don't have the resources to meaningfully hold the target, otherwise this could have been quite interesting. I almost got excited before I saw that TNI plans to skulk away at the next update and call it a victory.

As it stands even with the operational capacity of the FRA almost entirely defunct TNI finds itself unable to have any meaningful or longlasting impact on the security of a FRA member region.

Congrats though. From what I've heard it was a well executed raid.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:19 am

Impressive. The pre-endorsing tactic used to take out a sinker. Very impressive.

Yet I support TRR, as an officer there, and will cheer when TNI loses at update
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Postby Whiskum » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:50 am

Chin-Chillas wrote:It's a shame you don't have the resources to meaningfully hold the target, otherwise this could have been quite interesting. I almost got excited before I saw that TNI plans to skulk away at the next update and call it a victory.
It is unreasonable to criticise TNI and its allies for lacking non-updater resources when, in Belgium, we rallied nearly 100 endorsements in less than four days. In the current environment, The Rejected Realms is unique in that it lacks an eject facility, which means inability to hold it in the long run is to be expected of any invader force without prior native backing whatever its resources. The initial victory was just that, a victory. TNI does not raid to make things 'interesting'. TNI raids to send a message and the message here is clear: there is no benefit from being a member of the FRA.

Chin-Chillas wrote:As it stands even with the operational capacity of the FRA almost entirely defunct TNI finds itself unable to have any meaningful or longlasting impact on the security of a FRA member region.
The Rejected Realms is not just any FRA region. It is the largest, and the only founderless one. This raid has demonstrated that the FRA is unable to defend it. That is a meaningful impact.

Chin-Chillas wrote:Congrats though. From what I've heard it was a well executed raid.
Thank you for your congratulations.

Tim-Opolis wrote:Yet I support TRR, as an officer there, and will cheer when TNI loses at update
We pulled out before the update and had no intention of contesting it. There is no victory for TRR or the FRA here.
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Postby Campinia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:56 am

The message I see is 'we can execute a strategy that only works on TRR' but then why should other regions fear that?
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Postby Chin-Chillas » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:14 pm

Whiskum wrote:It is unreasonable to criticise TNI and its allies for lacking non-updater resources when, in Belgium, we rallied nearly 100 endorsements in less than four days. In the current environment, The Rejected Realms is unique in that it lacks an eject facility, which means inability to hold it in the long run is to be expected of any invader force without prior native backing whatever its resources. The initial victory was just that, a victory. TNI does not raid to make things 'interesting'. TNI raids to send a message and the message here is clear: there is no benefit from being a member of the FRA.


Really? I thought the message was that in the current climate, The Rejected Realms is unique in that it lacks an eject facility, which means inability to hold it in the long run is to be expected of any invader force without prior native backing. TNI has more than amply demonstrated that.

As to the message you intended, I must have missed the memo.

Whiskum wrote:The Rejected Realms is not just any FRA region. It is the largest, and the only founderless one. This raid has demonstrated that the FRA is unable to defend it. That is a meaningful impact.


Are you seriously telling me that demonstrating that the FRA is unable to field 90 WAs at update is a meaningful impact? I don't think anyone was under the illusion that they could prior to this raid, nor consider it a benefit of being a member... Nothing new learned, you lost Belgium, and nobody other than you had to do a thing. Bravo. :P
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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:05 pm

Chin-Chillas wrote:Are you seriously telling me that demonstrating that the FRA is unable to field 90 WAs at update is a meaningful impact?

Point of information: they only needed 21, I believe. The native delegate had 73 endorsements before the move began, unless I'm mistaken, and the raider delegate had 94 at update.
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