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by Amn Voss » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:37 am
by Gimmadonis » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:15 am
Muravyets wrote:Your argument is like the Eiffel Tower sculpted out of bullshit.
by Mable harbour » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:15 pm
The Grand World Order wrote:Verlorenen wrote:Dostanuot Loj wrote:J.F.C Fuller's Decisive Battles of the Western World Vol.III, Guderian's Panzer Leader, Christopher F. Foss' Modern Land Warfare, G. Biryukov and G. Melnikov's Antitank Warfare, virtually every one of the Osprey books about some armoured unit or vehicle used by the Germans in WW2. Hell, you can look at the battles fought by SS and Heer units on wikipedia and even it, for all that site is worth, will say the same thing.
Since I don't have the luxury of checking out any of those books, I will be forced to resort to the infamous Wikipedia to dispute your claim. Listen, I'm not saying they were perfect, but for the most part, they got the job done:
*ahem*wikipedia.org wrote:In August, SS Division Wiking was ordered to establish a defensive perimeter around a bridgehead across the Dniepr river. Despite determined attacks by the Red Army, the division held the line. During 1941, the Heer officers in charge of the deployment of the SS Division Wiking were skeptical of its fighting abilities and so were hesitant to commit it to any major actions. As the division proved itself again and again in combat, it began to earn the grudging respect of the Heer commanders.wikipedia.org wrote:The new Waffen-SS division was involved in some heavy fighting between January and March which resulted in the destruction of the Soviet 2nd Shock Army.wikipedia.org wrote:In February, 1943, the Division saw action south of Lake Ladoga and were involved in a number of Soviet offensives and forced to withdraw to a new defensive line at Kolpino where it was successful in holding the Red Army, despite suffering severe casualties.wikipedia.org wrote:SS Regiment Nordland's assault soon bogged down, as they realized that not only were they outnumbered by the Red Army, but they were also well entrenched in prepared positions. Within thirty minutes, almost half of the men of regiment had fallen. Despite this, they still captured the hill, and its commander Fritz von Scholz was awarded the Knight's Cross for his actions during the battle.wikipedia.org wrote:The Panzergrenadier regiments of 5 SS Wiking were exhausted and understrength from the fighting in the Caucasus, and the Panzer Battalion lacked sufficient armour to counter the Soviet force. Despite this, the division held off the Soviet assault, protecting the vital rail line and helping bring about the destruction of Mobile Group Popov.
That just means they happened to be good at what they did. That doesn't exactly mean they had any other advantages over regular Heer troops.
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Oh, I bet it counts alright...otaku gets anyone a x50 multiplier on their hell points.
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