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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:49 am

For those who aren't aware, Andrew Lansley is the UK health minister.

Something so bizarre occured that at first i refused to believe it, but... turns out its true, the article explains it better than i can.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-s ... ry-lansley

EDIT:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 65850.html
better article.

Just thought i'd share the news with you guys, and ask the question,
what the bloody hell is going on here?
as well as, which politician would you most love to be on a continuous 3 minute loop while recovering in a hospital?
Personally, i'd like Boris Johnson.
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Postby Meowfoundland » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:55 am

Teehee. It's kind of cute, in a creepy kind of way. But why would they make people pay so much to watch a television?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:56 am

Meowfoundland wrote:Teehee. It's kind of cute, in a creepy kind of way. But why would they make people pay so much to watch a television?


That isn't why you are paying, you are paying to not have to watch Andrew Lansley :p
but, probobly profit.
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Postby Ragnarsdomr » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:07 am

Could be somewhat worse. The eye doctor I see every couple of years has had a constant looped ad for the past few visits involving multiple needles being stabbed into a graphic of an eye to explain some sort of procedure. Not really the best thing to be watching a moment before you go into a closed office at the back of the building.

Still, that's kind of creepy. Just hundreds of politician, always watching you.
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Postby Tsaraine » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:10 am

This seems positively Orwellian in its authoritarianism, Randian in its naked greed, Sisyphean in its torturous...ness, and Homeric in its ineptitude.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:14 am

Tsaraine wrote:This seems positively Orwellian in its authoritarianism, Randian in its naked greed, Sisyphean in its torturous...ness, and Homeric in its ineptitude.


We call it british conservatism.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:23 am

My first thought was "surely one can simply turn off the TV?"

Seems not:
The worst thing about it, they say, is that you have to register to turn him off.


Hmmm... unplug that sucker. Or if worst comes to worst, give it the Elvis treament or a Spanish Pipedream....
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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:39 am

Last time I was in hospital, there was no endless looping. If there was, it wouldn't have made me want to thank anyone. Does this thing run all night? Can you truly not turn it off, I could almost understand if it was the only channel available if you turned the TV on, but if the TV is always on it's just insane. Especially considering that the Tory NHS is meant to be about cutting inefficiency

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Postby Nadkor » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:58 am

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Postby Cosmopoles » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:09 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:as well as, which politician would you most love to be on a continuous 3 minute loop while recovering in a hospital?
Personally, i'd like Boris Johnson.


As if Boris could make a complete statement within a three minute time limit.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:21 am

Unchecked Expansion wrote:Last time I was in hospital, there was no endless looping. If there was, it wouldn't have made me want to thank anyone. Does this thing run all night? Can you truly not turn it off, I could almost understand if it was the only channel available if you turned the TV on, but if the TV is always on it's just insane. Especially considering that the Tory NHS is meant to be about cutting inefficiency


You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:37 am

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Unchecked Expansion wrote:Last time I was in hospital, there was no endless looping. If there was, it wouldn't have made me want to thank anyone. Does this thing run all night? Can you truly not turn it off, I could almost understand if it was the only channel available if you turned the TV on, but if the TV is always on it's just insane. Especially considering that the Tory NHS is meant to be about cutting inefficiency


You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.


If I understood that article right, not only can you not turn it off, you have to either pay for a £1.50/day 30-day package or keep popping* coins into the TV. Even if you turn it around, there's the noise factor, especially in a multi-bed ward like was described. That can't be good for a patient's recovery...

*That's "opp", but my original typo of "oop" may just be more apropos...
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:44 am

To be honest, it sounds like a fairly harmless idea hopelessly badly executed. So at least, in execution, it sits neatly alongside everything else the government is doing.
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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:50 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.

So, cutting inefficiencies to streamline the NHS means wasting huge amounts of power driving patients insane.
Someone needs to write a Tory-English dictionary
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Unchecked Expansion wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.

So, cutting inefficiencies to streamline the NHS means wasting huge amounts of power driving patients insane.
Someone needs to write a Tory-English dictionary


Playing devil's advocate, rather than expressing my own views, one would think that the department of health might argue that this is a surefire revenue raiser that justifies the power wasted.

After all, if we assume that the majority of patients are sane, they would surely choose to regularly pay to keep Lansley turned off than be driven insane by the Lansley Loop.

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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:07 am

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Playing devil's advocate, rather than expressing my own views, one would think that the department of health might argue that this is a surefire revenue raiser that justifies the power wasted.

After all, if we assume that the majority of patients are sane, they would surely choose to regularly pay to keep Lansley turned off than be driven insane by the Lansley Loop.


Probably true. It's a winner for them I suppose.
But it makes me sad to think anyone could see that as meaning it's a good idea.

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Postby Bales Rant » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:02 am

The Archregimancy wrote:You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.


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Unchecked Expansion wrote:So, cutting inefficiencies to streamline the NHS means wasting huge amounts of power driving patients insane.
Someone needs to write a Tory-English dictionary


Playing devil's advocate, rather than expressing my own views, one would think that the department of health might argue that this is a surefire revenue raiser that justifies the power wasted.

After all, if we assume that the majority of patients are sane, they would surely choose to regularly pay to keep Lansley turned off than be driven insane by the Lansley Loop.


Would not turning the screen away from you (if you can actually manage it) just make it someone else's problem? If everyone starts turning the screen away everyone ends up watching or hearing it.

And assuming the majority of patients are indeed sane, I doubt - mainly because they are using the NHS - that they aren't really rich enough to be blowing £5 a day not be driven insane.

It's a ridiculous state of affairs.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:04 am

Nadkor wrote:To be honest, it sounds like a fairly harmless idea hopelessly badly executed. So at least, in execution, it sits neatly alongside everything else the government is doing.


Indeed, indeed.
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Postby Central Lothian » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:27 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.


The people I feel sorry for are those who work on the wards and have no choice but to watch him - my girlfriend, for one (she's a ward clerk at one of the Aberdonian hospitals).
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:16 pm

I just don't understand, did noone mention to them that this is completely insane, or did they ignore the person who told them...
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:46 pm

Wait until the suicide rate in hospitals shoot up from this.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:59 am

Central Lothian wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:You can turn the television so it faces away from you, but you cannot turn it off without paying. If you pay, then Lansley will be removed.


Your options are therefore to turn the screen away and not watch television, to pay to watch television, or to watch Andrew Lansley.

Personally, I vote for option 1.


The people I feel sorry for are those who work on the wards and have no choice but to watch him - my girlfriend, for one (she's a ward clerk at one of the Aberdonian hospitals).


I can see this as being a serious problem.

I can imagine a scene from a Terry Gilliam film where the nurse walks into a ward, only to be confronted with an endless sea of perfectly syncronised Andrew Lansleys staring out from the bedside screens, each of them with a slightly too chirpily bright smile, and warning us about the Yellow Peril.

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Postby West Failure » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:44 am

If they did this in prisons I am sure it would count as a cruel and unusual punishment. Still this kind of thing is probably why the government is so keen on disparaging human rights legislation.
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West Failure wrote:If they did this in prisons I am sure it would count as a cruel and unusual punishment. Still this kind of thing is probably why the government is so keen on disparaging human rights legislation.


Nah, they wouldn't have Andrew Lansley. They'd have Ken Clarke. *pause* Which, actually, is much worse.
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