Im shocked there wasnt a thread on this...

[Intangelon]

Normal: Not being gay.

Normal: not giving a shit what others do when it doesn't have any effect on you.

[Blouman Empire]

Normal: Not being gay.

Normal: not giving a shit what others do when it doesn't have any effect on you.

That's an odd definition of what normal people do.

[DrunkenDove]

Teabaggers got MASSIVE coverage. I heard a total of two mentions of the homosexual rights march. NPR, CBS. That's it.

Liberal Media Bias strikes again!

/sarcasm

[Intangelon]

Normal: Not being gay.

You know what else is normal? Not being you. We should ban everyone from being you in public.

Yeah try and stop me.

try and stop gay people from being gay. (note: no firearms may be used in this exercise.)

You're gay then you're gay just don't beat me over the head with it that many of you idiots do. All I said I don't like gays and I started World War III. So when push comes to shove it is the gays who don't have tolerance for heteros so there fore gays must go back to the closet where they belong or else there will be a reckoning. I'm just fighting against a double standard.

Please don't flame.

No, you didn't just say you didn't like gays. You said:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=761984#p761984

Sure gays have a right to be gay....in their own damn closet.

and...
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=762000#p762000

...my opinion still stands above on gays need to stay in the closet and the hell out of public.

and...
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=762026#p762026

Last time I checked the normal people (i.e. heterosexuals) outnumbers gays by a large margin. So why is a small interest group belly aching over civil rights to be recognized across the nation if they got a whole rotting cesspool city like San Fransisco all to themselves? Ok first of all Gay marriage is not actually marriage, it is not even a civil union in my book, it's two homos having an orgy which is done everyday in the closet and it should stay that way not out in public. Why? Because it's not normal.

and...
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=762046#p762046

Normal: Not being gay.

Don't try and play victim here when you come in with all this irrational nonsense.

[Tsalland]

I pity them. They'll have their fun now, but when judgment day comes... Let's just say eternal punishment compared to a few moments of pleasure isn't really worth it.

[Psychotic Mongooses]

I pity them. They'll have their fun now, but when judgment day comes... Let's just say eternal punishment compared to a few moments of pleasure isn't really worth it.

If they're into S&M it is....

[The Tofu Islands]

I pity them. They'll have their fun now, but when judgment day comes... Let's just say eternal punishment compared to a few moments of pleasure isn't really worth it.

What have they done to merit eternal punishment?

[Fartsniffage]

I pity them. They'll have their fun now, but when judgment day comes... Let's just say eternal punishment compared to a few moments of pleasure isn't really worth it.

You are correct, Allah doesn't forgive or forget.

[Intangelon]

No I'm worried about some gay asshole politically crucifying me then threatening to kill me because I have an honest opinion about gays.

See gays preach tolerance while they're the most intolerant. They don't practice what they preach therefore they're a bunch of hypocrites too.

Quoting Jefferson and carrying on as you are is the only hypocrisy here, my friend.

It's not hypocrisy when I'm also part of the group of people that believe marriage is only between a man and woman. But people shouldn't be saying that...oh no we cannot have that because see it seems gays have more say-so than heterosexuals. That is hindering my ability have what I have to say. Even though you don't like it still I should just shut up? That's censorship.

So yes I have a legitimate reason so say what I'm suggesting because you have yahoos out there who want to shut down the opposition. I'm the opposition.

No you're not. You're acting like a loudmouthed bigot, and that's how you're being treated.

Guess what? Giving gay people equality DOES NOT diminish any rights you already have. You seem to think you have a right to not be confronted with things you don't personally like or partake in. News flash: you don't.

If you believe that marriage is only man-woman, that's great. What isn't great is that you seem to think that you get to require that everyone else believe the same thing. Again: you don't.

No church would be forced to marry a gay couple if it's against their doctrine, just as they're not forced to do anything they don't want to now. So where's the problem? Once more -- if you don't like something, you don't automatically get to make it go away or become illegal or retreat to a closet. Sorry. You have to be a responsible human being and live and let live. If you can't do that, then it is YOU who doesn't belong in MY country. America. Land of the free. Love it, or leave it.

[Intangelon]

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.

Actual freedom
Oh wait, I forgot, on here if it's slightly conservative or right-wing in nature it's obviously not freedom.

Anyway, back to the thread, I couldn't care less.

Which explains why you posted, you care quite a lot (or your grasp of English is suspect).

I beg your pardon, but how is that relevant? What freedoms are anyone seriously threatening that could be considered exclusively conservative? Marriage is a legal contract, and as such has absolutely nothing to do with religion when it comes to bestowing rights upon the married couple -- 1138 of them.

So nice attempt to look like you're not trying to hijack the thread, but fail.

[Intangelon]

All men are created equal (gays too), but are all men treated equal? Has one man's rights been created to override others? That is where the line is drawn and may I just establish that signature was used to keep these Communists and these Wanna-be dictators off my back. I guess I need to alter my signature so you gays can stop putting me into the lion's den.

Well, no, obviously. Some people (such as gays) have fewer rights than others.

On neutral grounds gays are just as human as everyone else although their mentality of being human is questionable.

huh?

On moral grounds gays are immoral because since the dawn of civilization marriage has always been between man and a woman.

not really. There have been marriages between a man and multiple women, between a woman and multiple men, and numerous other traditions which are no longer practiced. Moreover, there have also been marriages between two men or two women, in places like South Africa and the Netherlands and Massachusetts. So you're objectively wrong on this.

On biological grounds gays are against the thing that keeps humanity alive. Procreation. Put a gay couple on an island then put a man and a woman on another. 50 years later the gay island is desolate or have the same two people while on the other you have a a dozen people, they may have a sixth finger or toe but there are more people on that island. How else did this world end up having 7 billion people? But that's besides the point....

Do all marriages result in children? Evidently not. Do all straight people choose to procreate? No. Do all gay people choose not to procreate? No (it's still entirely possible for homosexuals to procreate, thanks to technology like IVF or nontechnological means like surrogates). So what's your point?

On political grounds and this is the kicker. On political grounds it is right what gays have to say and everything said against them are igornant, bigotted, racist, idiots, intolerant, hypocrites...and every name in the book. But when a heterosexual has something to say against homosexuality they might as well be publically hanged because it is politically incorrect. DING-DING-DING!

huh? if a homosexual criticized heterosexuality in the same terms you're criticizing homosexuality, i would call them intolerant bigots as well. however, no homosexuals have made this claim -- no-one's tried to say that being straight is immoral, straight marriage is an abomination, et cetera.

So in the end it's not whether men are created equal, it's about political correctness. So we're all equal, but one of us has to shutup. That ain't equal. So yeah I meant what I say because it's either them or me. I choose me.

so basically you're throwing a hissy fit because you want to be able to express intolerant views? well, go right ahead, but don't act surprised if people tell you you're being intolerant.

This all started when I said that gays should stay in the closet as in keeping their homosexualty to themselves instead of parading in public telling me that they're gay and that gay marriage should be legal and taught in school and forcing it down people throats while really they have no business to. I don't go around and parading I'm a conservative. I only say that when I'm asked. And technically at this circumstance, I was asked and then BAM! But this has become peurile, I'll say no more.

TRANSLATION: I spouted a misinformed, misguided and bigoted opinion, and I don't like being called on it.

Brother, if you don't have the courage of your convictions, that's your problem, not ours. If you can't defend your stance, then the problem is with your stance and your ability to defend it, not with those who could poke holes in it blindfolded, from space.

You can try to claim that you're being picked on, but nobody here has flamed you personally, so where's the persecution? Your idea has been shot to hell, and that is what a discussion/debate forum is for -- making vessels (ideas) and seeing if they hold water. Yours clearly does not.

[Intangelon]

Normal: Not being gay.

Normal: not giving a shit what others do when it doesn't have any effect on you.

That's an odd definition of what normal people do.

Why am I not surprised that you'd feel that way? (see how the smiley doesn't really ameliorate your actual intent?)

It's just one thing that normal people do.

[Intangelon]

I pity them. They'll have their fun now, but when judgment day comes... Let's just say eternal punishment compared to a few moments of pleasure isn't really worth it.

And that's fine, if that's what you believe.

That doesn't make it appropriate, or even remotely Constitutional, law.

[Blouman Empire]

Why am I not surprised that you'd feel that way? (see how the smiley doesn't really ameliorate your actual intent?)

It's just one thing that normal people do.

I see you obviously missed my point, I was making a statement that a lot of people do give a shit what others do even if doesn't have any effect on them.

See what happens when you jump off the deep end?

Bitch, please.