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[DRAFT] Condemn Rawrgirnia

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[DRAFT] Condemn Rawrgirnia

Postby Mahaj » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:43 pm

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

BEMOANING the date August 21st, 2010, the date when the nation Rawrgirnia came into being,

HEREBY CONDEMNS Rawrgirnia for the following reasons:

RECOGNIZING that from the youthful age of the nation and beyond, the populace of Rawrgirnia has been nice to all,

AWARE that Rawrgirnia has participated in raids of many regions, the majority of which with The Black Hawks and to a lesser extent DEN, including Discordia, Yorkshire, and others, as well as participating in the mass graffiti of regions as part of the aforementioned Hawks,

BEFUDDLED at how nation participating in such villainous activities can have a populace so nice,

AWARE that the politicians of Rawrgirnia are immensely skilled at debating,

NOTING the many great debates between Rawrgirnia and Unibot II, especially during the raid on Yorkshire, and how Rawrgirnia held fast and won some of the debates,

ANGRY at Rawrgirnia for mistreating the greatest defender of the common era, Unibot II,

DISMAYED at Rawrgirnia's switching from defending regions to raiding them,

IN CONCLUSION, for Rawrgirnia's scorn to the greatest defender known, for Rawrgirnia's actions while raiding and their switch from defending to raiding, and for the contradictions in their actions and their populace.


Pretty sure i have a Rule IV violation or two in there, because it wouldn't be a Mahaj proposal without it.

Other than that, this is pretty LOL as you can see, but I would like to go ahead with it and see if it can pass. :)
Last edited by Mahaj on Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby A mean old man » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:47 pm

Mahaj wrote:HEREBY CONDEMNS Rawrgirnia for confusing the world with their contradictions with their actions and the rest of their populace, as well as their mistreatment of the greatest defender currently in existence.


ALL HEIL UNIBURT, DUH BEST NASHINSTAYTS PLAYIR OF FOREVUR
A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
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C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
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C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:51 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Mahaj wrote:HEREBY CONDEMNS Rawrgirnia for confusing the world with their contradictions with their actions and the rest of their populace, as well as their mistreatment of the greatest defender currently in existence.


ALL HEIL UNIBURT, DUH BEST NASHINSTAYTS PLAYIR OF FOREVUR


You make me want to vote for this for the fucking lulz.

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Postby Connopolis » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:53 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Mahaj wrote:HEREBY CONDEMNS Rawrgirnia for confusing the world with their contradictions with their actions and the rest of their populace, as well as their mistreatment of the greatest defender currently in existence.


ALL HEIL UNIBURT, DUH BEST NASHINSTAYTS PLAYIR OF FOREVUR


*Makes blood sacrifice*

Anyways, is the Condemnation serious in its current state, just out of curiosity? I can't really tell, no offense. :(
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:49 pm

Connopolis wrote:*Makes blood sacrifice*

Anyways, is the Condemnation serious in its current state, just out of curiosity? I can't really tell, no offense. :(


Does this look serious to you?

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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Kshrlmnt » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:37 pm

Connopolis wrote:
A mean old man wrote:
ALL HEIL UNIBURT, DUH BEST NASHINSTAYTS PLAYIR OF FOREVUR


*Makes blood sacrifice*

Anyways, is the Condemnation serious in its current state, just out of curiosity? I can't really tell, no offense. :(

A blood sacrifice... you'd fit in well in Unknown. :P
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:50 am

Can you actually assert IC (as proposals are supposed to be) that a nation came into existence on the same RL date that it did OOC? A lot of nations have back-stories that would clash IC with this assumption.
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:18 am

Bears Armed wrote:Can you actually assert IC (as proposals are supposed to be) that a nation came into existence on the same RL date that it did OOC? A lot of nations have back-stories that would clash IC with this assumption.

I'm actually not sure, but I don't see why not. I'll get a mod ruling.

Connopolis wrote:
A mean old man wrote:
ALL HEIL UNIBURT, DUH BEST NASHINSTAYTS PLAYIR OF FOREVUR


*Makes blood sacrifice*

Anyways, is the Condemnation serious in its current state, just out of curiosity? I can't really tell, no offense. :(

Kinda. I might change the clauses about Unibot a tad (although i think they're pretty epic right now) and i'm going to add more information about Rawr's raids, and possibly about his switch from raiding to defending.
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:43 am

Bears Armed wrote:Can you actually assert IC (as proposals are supposed to be) that a nation came into existence on the same RL date that it did OOC? A lot of nations have back-stories that would clash IC with this assumption.


I see no problems with it.

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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:49 am

Crazy girl wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Can you actually assert IC (as proposals are supposed to be) that a nation came into existence on the same RL date that it did OOC? A lot of nations have back-stories that would clash IC with this assumption.


I see no problems with it.

Proposals are supposed to be written so that they can be read IC (as if submitted by agents of a nation), no? IC, 'RP-IC' at least, that assertion would be false information (except in any case where the player of the nation concerned actually does RP their nation as having originated at the same date IC as OOC, which admittedly some do). In fact, under the version of the rules that applies over in the GA I think that t would almost certainly make the proposal illegal under the 'No Meta-gaming' rule.
Are you saying that 'GP-IC' is the only form of 'IC' that applies in the SC?
Last edited by Bears Armed on Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:57 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:57 am

I thought we'd already been over this here? What a nation roleplays is not relevant to the rules in the SC. A proposal could claim that Bears Armed is populated by sentient frogs - we would not delete if for that.

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Sedgistan wrote:I thought we'd already been over this here? What a nation roleplays is not relevant to the rules in the SC. A proposal could claim that Bears Armed is populated by sentient frogs - we would not delete if for that.

I see. So how would you apply this ruling in the context of commendation/condemnation proposals that are -- as some already have been -- solely based on RP activities rather than GP? Would the accuracy or otherwise of their claims be officially considered irrelevant?
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Postby Crazy girl » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:04 am

As long as it follows the SC rules, basically...we don't give a damn. It's up to the delegates and voters to decide if the proposal is full of bs or not.

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Postby Mahaj » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:45 am

Thank you Mods :)
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:53 am

Crazy girl wrote:As long as it follows the SC rules, basically...we don't give a damn. It's up to the delegates and voters to decide if the proposal is full of bs or not.

Oh well, okay. That seems to me like lower standards than apply in the GA, though...
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Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:04 am

No, it's allowing WA members to set their own standards for accuracy.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:06 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Crazy girl wrote:As long as it follows the SC rules, basically...we don't give a damn. It's up to the delegates and voters to decide if the proposal is full of bs or not.

Oh well, okay. That seems to me like lower standards than apply in the GA, though...

Considering that individual nations' roleplay cannot be referenced in GA proposals at all, yes, SC standards would be significantly lower...
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Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Oh well, okay. That seems to me like lower standards than apply in the GA, though...

Considering that individual nations' roleplay cannot be referenced in GA proposals at all, yes, SC standards would be significantly lower...


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I vote FOR

for the lulz :lol2:
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I prefer Tim as a better turncoat.
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No mention of UDL this time Mahaj? For shame :eek:
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:43 pm

Warzone Codger wrote:I prefer Tim as a better turncoat.



Does that mean that I can have a condemn/commend :lol:

Because then it will be all worth it....
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Postby Mahaj » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:00 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Warzone Codger wrote:I prefer Tim as a better turncoat.



Does that mean that I can have a condemn/commend :lol:

Because then it will be all worth it....

No.
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Postby Mahaj » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:03 am

SO i'm enjoying playing around with this proposal, so redraft!
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations


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