[NSNS] When a sinker is born...

[The Face Dancers]

Well well well. It seems that TITO are really turning into raiders, and their brainwashing of their members leading to utter blind hate for raiders is totally working. Ignore the fact that various raiders have served honourably in feeder governments, myself included. (as an ex-Magister for The East Pacific) Note that this cowardly TITO troop 10000 Islands member has since deleted his/her messages.

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Before TITO claims that this troop isn't one of them...

Colonia Gloriae's motto was “See main nation... The Democratic States of Gloria Gentis” . This nation has since changed its flag and motto to hide this fact, and fled Osiris. Gloria Gentis is a member of 10000 Islands, and is a WA member with 69 endorsements. An amazing attempt to cover-up this blunder.

blah blah blah Eist says Gloria Gentis is not a TITO troop, but is a 10000 Islands member... to me.. they are one and the same...

[Eist]

blah blah blah Eist says Gloria Gentis is not a TITO troop, but is a 10000 Islands member... to me.. they are one and the same...

Really? Sigh. That really is a high wall between the defender/raider world

[Kudiovarmia]

If tito's so in the right, then why ban someone trying to build stuff for the community, it just seems to me that their perfectly willing to put their own interests ahead of a newly formed community. They have yet to do ANYTHING other then divide the region and bring in more of their members.

[The Face Dancers]

blah blah blah Eist says Gloria Gentis is not a TITO troop, but is a 10000 Islands member... to me.. they are one and the same...

Really? Sigh. That really is a high wall between the defender/raider world

I'm nice to nice defenders. TITO banned my nation in Osiris, Your Mum and Yo Mamma. Very nice of you all.

I made no attempt to cover my raider background as Your Mum and Yo Mamma. The total lack of deceit and the total transparency I offered was of course no shield to stop TITO from banning me, eh?

[-St George]

Really? Sigh. That really is a high wall between the defender/raider world

I'm nice to nice defenders. TITO banned my nation in Osiris, Your Mum and Yo Mamma. Very nice of you all.

I made no attempt to cover my raider background as Your Mum and Yo Mamma. The total lack of deceit and the total transparency I offered was of course no shield to stop TITO from banning me, eh?

Then perhaps come over to Balder where efforts are being made by a large number of people to build a workable community...

that is, if you really were in Osiris to do that.

[The Face Dancers]

I'm nice to nice defenders. TITO banned my nation in Osiris, Your Mum and Yo Mamma. Very nice of you all.

I made no attempt to cover my raider background as Your Mum and Yo Mamma. The total lack of deceit and the total transparency I offered was of course no shield to stop TITO from banning me, eh?

Then perhaps come over to Balder where efforts are being made by a large number of people to build a workable community...

that is, if you really were in Osiris to do that.

I thought Balder was faring rather well?

[Evil Wolf]

They are, they even have a forums and upcoming free elections for any and all to partake in, unlike Osiris, which is essentially a XKI military puppet state at the moment.

[The Face Dancers]

They are, they even have a forums and upcoming free elections for any and all to partake in, unlike Osiris, which is essentially a XKI military puppet state at the moment.

Osiris had and still has forums, created by Kain's group. We were also about to start elections, but we can't do anything because TITO controls the region. TITO's trying to force an election without any of Kain's group in it at all.

http://s11.zetaboards.com/Osiris/index/

[-St George]

Then perhaps come over to Balder where efforts are being made by a large number of people to build a workable community...

that is, if you really were in Osiris to do that.

I thought Balder was faring rather well?

They are, they even have a forums and upcoming free elections for any and all to partake in, unlike Osiris, which is essentially a XKI military puppet state at the moment.

This, although FENDAH UNITY demands I disagree with EW, support TITO and challenge TFD to a duel.

[Leviathan Romefeller]

Lemme get this straight. One group came in, started building forums, got popular support, was working on elections. Then the other group comes in and says those people building are the bad guys?

[Evil Wolf]

That's TITO for you. They'd invade a Crasher region and ban all the Crashers in it in the interests of "protecting the natives".

[Ginet]

But, but, but, aren't they protecting us from foreign imperialism?

[New Rogernomics]

Lemme get this straight. One group came in, started building forums, got popular support, was working on elections. Then the other group comes in and says those people building are the bad guys?

I think between Kain and I, we haven't had much sleep. I am just glad some progress is starting to be made.

[Goobergunchia]

The WA Delegate has the right to ban whom he wishes, he is elected, doesnt matter how he's elected, he's elected and has the power to an whomever he wants

Glad to see Francoism is alive and well.

[Topid]

Hmm, Lazarus always seemed to have activity problems. Taking their feed and dividing it into three seems to me we'll three times the regions with three times the inactivity. Hopefully I'm wrong. And luckily, I'll never have to admit I was because the new guys boost in activity will last far past the point when I'm not around anymore.

[Evil Wolf]

The WA Delegate has the right to ban whom he wishes, he is elected, doesnt matter how he's elected, he's elected and has the power to an whomever he wants

Glad to see Francoism is alive and well.

Ah yes, unless that person just so happens to be a raider, or, gods forbid, a dirty pro-raider, then they need to be removed no matter what the cost. I mean, they could start banning people!

[Cerberion]

My, I wonder how the story would have read if Kain had gotten enough Endo's.

Moreover, I wonder what the WFE would have read?
Bet you I know what the flag would have looked like.

So interesting how attitudes change from thread to thread. If Kain was in the seat would there have been a thread similar to TPC Poetically invaded? A thread gloating over the triumph of NBE's subjugation of Osiris? I think perhaps the answer to that is "very likely".

But of course, every time things go awry it's some wonderfully high moral stand taken by the invader group, about how they were helping the community and how evil TITO are.

Same old rhetoric, from the same old faces. It's almost comforting in it's predictability.

[Evil Wolf]

And yet for all that assuming, we will never know. You know why? Because TITO ran in and took the region over to "protect it" that's why.

[New Rogernomics]

My, I wonder how the story would have read if Kain had gotten enough Endo's.

Moreover, I wonder what the WFE would have read?
Bet you I know what the flag would have looked like.

So interesting how attitudes change from thread to thread. If Kain was in the seat would there have been a thread similar to TPC Poetically invaded? A thread gloating over the triumph of NBE's subjugation of Osiris? I think perhaps the answer to that is "very likely".

But of course, every time things go awry it's some wonderfully high moral stand taken by the invader group, about how they were helping the community and how evil TITO are.

Same old rhetoric, from the same old faces. It's almost comforting in it's predictability.

I don't really revel in what ifs, and things are pretty much settled. We set up the forum, appoint an interim delegate and hold elections.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

The WA Delegate has the right to ban whom he wishes, he is elected, doesnt matter how he's elected, he's elected and has the power to an whomever he wants

Glad to see Francoism is alive and well.

Damn right.

[The Face Dancers]

My, I wonder how the story would have read if Kain had gotten enough Endo's.

Moreover, I wonder what the WFE would have read?
Bet you I know what the flag would have looked like.

So interesting how attitudes change from thread to thread. If Kain was in the seat would there have been a thread similar to TPC Poetically invaded? A thread gloating over the triumph of NBE's subjugation of Osiris? I think perhaps the answer to that is "very likely".

But of course, every time things go awry it's some wonderfully high moral stand taken by the invader group, about how they were helping the community and how evil TITO are.

Same old rhetoric, from the same old faces. It's almost comforting in it's predictability.

Preemptive Retaliation. You didn't wait for things to go awry before you interfered, you assumed that once Kain had power, that would happen. Because all raiders and pro-raiders are scum and monsters that cannot be trusted at all. You're just horribly brainwashed, it's true, it's true!

[Cerberion]

And yet for all that assuming, we will never know. You know why? Because TITO ran in and took the region over to "protect it" that's why.

And clearly my allegiance shows which I think better.

So we've got assumptions about what Kain would have done, and assumptions about what TITO is doing and going to do.

It's a bit premature to be definitive about what will happen.

Still, it's providing plenty of entertainment.e

[Kudiovarmia]

Same old rhetoric, from the same old faces. It's almost comforting in it's predictability.

How is it the same old faces? No one asked for Tito to come to Osiris, and Kain has popular support Tito even admitted its main goal is to remove Kain (and anyone who said they approve of him it seems). how is that defending democracy if your only stated goal is to silence the other voices in the region? Or is this somehow Tito can do no wrong ever because humans never make mistakes? (unless of course your arguing they are not human)

Perhaps Tito would just like Osiris to forfeit liberty for a safe and secure society where they can be its big brother?

[Warzone Codger]

We should of all gone with Revert. If you noticed Kain, you would of noticed Revert. And the drama of raider/defender wars would be mostly avoided..

[The Face Dancers]

And yet for all that assuming, we will never know. You know why? Because TITO ran in and took the region over to "protect it" that's why.

And clearly my allegiance shows which I think better.

So we've got assumptions about what Kain would have done, and assumptions about what TITO is doing and going to do.

It's a bit premature to be definitive about what will happen.

Still, it's providing plenty of entertainment.e

Bullshit. TITO has come in and banned a whole host of people supporting Kain on the assumption that we were about to do harm. That (the bannings) is not an assumption.

We should of all gone with Revert. If you noticed Kain, you would of noticed Revert. And the drama of raider/defender wars would be mostly avoided..

TITO should have, but they didn't.