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Man, 70, Stoned to Death for Being Gay: Police

Postby Nulono » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:20 pm

Suspect said the Old Testament told him that gays must be stoned, police say
By Teresa Masterson | Monday, Mar 28, 2011 | Updated 5:00 PM EDT

Investigators arrested John Thomas in the beating death of an elderly Delaware County man. Police say he admitted his guilt and blamed the teachings of the Old Testament.

A 28-year-old Upper Darby man has been charged with murder after telling police that he stoned a 70-year-old man to death when the man made sexual advances toward him, authorities say.

John Joe Thomas, 28, of Sunshine Road in Upper Darby, spent almost every day with 70-year-old Murray Seidman at Seidman’s Lansdowne home, police say. Days before Seidman’s body was found on Jan. 12, Thomas allegedly beat Seidman to death with a sock full of rocks.

Thomas told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that gays should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made sexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

Police say that Thomas struck Seidman in the head about 10 times with the sock of rocks. Thomas left Seidman dead in his apartment, and then threw his bloody clothing and the bloody sock in a dumpster, according to authorities.

Though the relationship is still unknown, Thomas was the sole executor of Seidman's will and knew how much money was in Seidman's bank accounts, police say.

Thomas told police that he returned to Seidman’s apartment several days later on Jan. 12 to make it appear like he just discovered the body.

When police arrived, they found Thomas crying in the hallway of the apartment building saying, “I’m not going down there again. There is too much blood.”

Police found dried blood spatter on the living room floor, walls, and furniture. Seidman’s body was laying face down on the living room floor, police said.

According to Delaware County Medical Examiner Fredric Hellman, Seidman died of multiple blunt force trauma. He said Seidman had been dead between five and 10 days before police found the body.

Thomas is being held on first-degree murder charges.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 43719.html


This disgusts me. What year is it, 2011 BC? :shock:
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:21 pm

I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:21 pm

I seriously thought this was going to be in Iran.

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Postby Keronians » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:22 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock:

:o :o

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Postby Keronians » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:22 pm

Takaram wrote:I seriously thought this was going to be in Iran.


I knew it would be either the Middle East or America.
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Postby Pyravar » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:22 pm

This is the crap you get with religion
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:24 pm

Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.

I'm given to understand that it's not actually possible to consume it fast enough.
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Postby Vitius » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:25 pm

Yet another idiot whom makes it appear that all of us theists are stupid, ignorant, or non-accepting.
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Pyravar wrote:This is the crap you get with religion


Not all religions are garbage, it's the interpretations that are.

And wow... "God told me to" is such bull$#it. God says "do unto others" not "kill the fabulous"...
That's a pathetic excuse pulled from his @$$.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:26 pm

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Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.

I'm given to understand that it's not actually possible to consume it fast enough.

If you had a bunch of potheads in a small room, maybe the smoke could displace all the oxygen and they would die.

And shush you.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:26 pm

I think there is more to the story then this guy lets on. I want to see how the trial turns out.
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Postby Marcheria » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

greed and death wrote:I think there is more to the story then this guy lets on. I want to see how the trial turns out.

agreed. I hope the bastard gets the chair.
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Postby Galla- » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

Anyone who "receives a message in Prayer" should be locked up in an asylum.

For a long time.
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Postby Serrland » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

greed and death wrote:I think there is more to the story then this guy lets on. I want to see how the trial turns out.

Indeed.

"Though the relationship is still unknown, Thomas was the sole executor of Seidman's will and knew how much money was in Seidman's bank accounts, police say."

Add money into the equation and things can get a whole lot fishier in a hurry.

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Postby Yakana » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

I really don't remember the bible saying "beat gays with a sock full of rocks"...

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Postby Jeffeyyah » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

In before huge tide of angsty atheists blaming religion.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:28 pm

Nulono wrote:This disgusts me. What year is it, 2000 BC? :shock:


The only good thing about this is that unlike some countries this is not a legal punishment.

Though still too horrific to put into words.

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Vitius wrote:Yet another idiot whom makes it appear that all of us theists are stupid, ignorant, or non-accepting.


^^^^^This^^^^^

I guess he missed the whole thing called the New Testament huh?
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Pyravar wrote:This is the crap you get with religion


And there's a 'freedom of religion' motion proposed for WA !
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:29 pm

'Told him' did it? Did it hell. Nice use of the Bible as a Scapegoat there.

Clearly knows how to pander to the bible blame game.

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Postby Vitius » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:30 pm

Pyravar wrote:This is the crap you get with religion

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This is the crap you get with atheism (sarcasm).

Though you determine your own actions and words, please don't generalize a whole group of people based upon the actions of some of that group.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:30 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:The only good thing about this is that unlike some countries this is not a legal punishment.


*cough* Iran *cough* Pakistan *cough* Saudi Arabia *cough*
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Postby Galla- » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:30 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Pyravar wrote:This is the crap you get with religion


Not all religions are garbage, it's the interpretations that are.

And wow... "God told me to" is such bull$#it. God says "do unto others" not "kill the fabulous"...
That's a pathetic excuse pulled from his @$$.


No, Jesus said "do unto others", his dad says "Kill 'em all and let me sort 'em out," just like Sodom and Gomorrah.

I'm pretty sure Jesus and Yahweh have a dysfunctional relationship, with Jesus being some kind of rebellious teenager who is into new ager shit like pacifism and peace, weed, and saying "maaaan" with the V-fingers. Yahweh is a crotchety old fart who enjoys blood sports and talking about 'back in my day we would've stoned half the people you talk to' or sommat.
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Postby Aeronos » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:31 pm

The United Emirates of Saudi America anyone?

Seriously though, disgraceful. People like this make me shock with despair at the world...
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Postby Soufrika » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:32 pm

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