Your Nation's Main Battle Tank (No Mechs) [Part 1]

[Sciox]

It just seems to be a very short chassis with a short gun barrel.

Isn't Merkava designed and was conceptualised to be used within Israel specially, and was conceptualised so as to maximise its potential within the condition of Israel's terrain.

I am under the impression that if Merkava is used elsewhere, it would not be as effecive than if its used in a terrain similar to Israel's terrain, whereas one cannot yield too much a ground to the respective opposing force.

Or perhaps i am wrong..

We had this kind of discussion a few pages back. The Merkava is utterly fantastic when deployed by the Israeli's against Israel's enemies as they currently stand and will continue to stand for the foreseeable future. When employed by most RL nations and nearly all NS nation's though the Merkava becomes starts to be outmatched by it's opponents.

The Merkava is far from the perfect tank, but it is the perfect tank for the IDF.

[United States of PA]

@ Above: Until they go back to war with the Syrians, Egyptians, or Jordanians. Theres a reason they keep those ultra upgraded M60s sitting around


@Crusader: What everyone else has said, Crusader was epic, if expensive. RoF was hilarious, and as long as you kept a constant supply of coolant, could do that all day.

As to the XM297: I had no clue that used a Laser Ignition System, wow.

Also, Crusaders RoF is the highest i have ever seen for a weapon of that size., 12 rpm for as long as you have coolant, that is fucking insane, Pzh 2000 can sustain that for less than a minute. One Crusader is more or less equal to multiple Pzh 2000s in terms of overall effectiveness.

[Wamitoria]

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Or the EE-T1.

Perhaps. But here's a couple of problems.

1. Either gun (105mm L7 or 120mm GIAT) were manually loaded.
2. The protection and armour was considered inferior to western MBT's at the time.

So unless you plan on upgrading these things (as my other nation is), their only real use is scaring the enemy.

1. Not that big of a problem.
2. Still beats most of the T-72s and T-90s that are used by 45% of NS.

[United Districts of 1]

I was thinking of developing a vehicle completely devoted to cutting down infantry. Anybody got suggestions?

[United States of PA]

M109PIM

[Wamitoria]

I was thinking of developing a vehicle completely devoted to cutting down infantry. Anybody got suggestions?

I don't know what it should look like, but it needs twin 40mm cannons in it's turret, a coaxial flamethrower, and a MGL mounted somewhere.

If you can also manage to stick a couple AA missiles on it, do it.

[Tierra Prime]

What do you guys think of this for a Super Heavy Tank <FT.>?

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Combat Class: Super Heavy Tank
Number in Service: Unknown <I haven't decided yet.>
Length: 40.0 Metres
Width: 24.0 Metres
Height: 22.7 Metres
Weight: 1,000 Tonnes
Crew: 10 <1 Driver, 1 Commander, 6 Gunners & 2 Mechanics.>
Engines: x4 Electric Engines
Armour: 300mm Triniarum Composite Armour <Front.> 180mm <Sides.> 90mm <Back.>
Defensive Systems: Electronic Jamming Device <Also a laser warning system.> Smoke Dispenser
Sights: Polax Multipurpose Sight <Includes thermal and infra red modes.>
Shield Rating: Heavy <Equipped with 2 shield generators.>
Power Supply: 1x Cronite Reactor
Armament: x2 180mm Railguns
1x 90mm Railgun
2x 88mm Flak Cannons
3x 50mm Machine Railguns
1x Drone Launcher <Carries 8 drones.>
Maximum Speed: 40 Km/h
Maximum Operational Range: 250 Kilometres

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The IMS-1 Devastator Super Heavy Tank is a class of Super Heavy Tank in service with the Imperial Army. The Devastator tank is armed with two very powerful 180mm Railguns, a large amount of smaller railguns, two flak cannons, and a drone pod which can launch guided drones. The class is protected by Triniarum Composite Armour, which is very hard to penetrate, and two shield generators. Further protection includes a powerful electronic jamming device, which can disrupt enemy lock on, laser and guidance systems, and a smoke dispenser, which can mask the tank from view.

The Devastator class represents a new approach by Tierran designers that emphasises both firepower, and protection, over speed. While heavy, the Devastator is not slower than the best of its opponents. However, with over one thousand metric tons of dead weight, suspensions, gearboxes and other such items the tank has clearly reached it's design limits, meaning breakdowns are frequent in the field.

Although the general design and layout is broadly similar to the previous Super Heavy tank, the now retired Tiger, the Devastator weighs more than twice as much. This is due to its substantially thicker armour, stronger Shield, larger weapons, and more solidly-built transmission and suspension.

The Devastator classes great amount of fire-power and protection has earned it a fierce reputation, entire enemy forces have been known to surrender upon seeing only one of them. Devastator tanks are regularly used as short range transports due to their excellent protection, so much that they include a space on the top of their turret where troops may sit down. Some where converted to full transports in 2715, creating the IMS-2 Devastator Super Heavy Transport, these where quickly withdrawn from service though, as they proved too slow to act as full fledged transports. Each Devastator tank is powered by one cronite reactor, which keeps it's electric engines charged. This reactor can last for quite a long time without a refuelling, this gives the Devastator a very large operation range. It is very slow however, due to it's massive size.

[United Districts of 1]

What do you guys think of this for a Super Heavy Tank <FT.>?

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Combat Class: Super Heavy Tank
Number in Service: Unknown <I haven't decided yet.>
Length: 50.0 Metres
Width: 24.0 Metres
Height: 22.7 Metres
Weight: 1,000 Tonnes
Crew: 10 <1 Driver, 1 Commander, 6 Gunners & 2 Mechanics.>
Engines: x4 Electric Engines
Armour: 300mm Triniarum Composite Armour <Front.> 180mm <Sides.> 90mm <Back.>
Defensive Systems: Electronic Jamming Device <Also a laser warning system.> Smoke Dispenser
Sights: Polax Multipurpose Sight <Includes thermal and infra red modes.>
Shield Rating: Heavy <Equipped with 2 shield generators.>
Power Supply: 1x Cronite Reactor
Armament: x2 180mm Railguns
1x 90mm Railgun
2x 88mm Flak Cannons
3x 50mm Machine Railguns
1x Drone Launcher <Carries 8 drones.>
Maximum Speed: 20 Km/h
Maximum Operational Range: 250 Kilometres

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The IMS-1 Devastator Super Heavy Tank is a class of Super Heavy Tank in service with the Imperial Army. The Devastator tank is armed with two very powerful 180mm Railguns, a large amount of smaller railguns, two flak cannons, and a drone pod which can launch guided drones. The class is protected by Triniarum Composite Armour, which is very hard to penetrate, and two shield generators. Further protection includes a powerful electronic jamming device, which can disrupt enemy lock on, laser and guidance systems, and a smoke dispenser, which can mask the tank from view.

The Devastator class represents a new approach by Tierran designers that emphasises both firepower, and protection, over speed. While heavy, the Devastator is not slower than the best of its opponents. However, with over one hundred and twenty metric tons of dead weight, suspensions, gearboxes and other such items the tank has clearly reached it's design limits, meaning breakdowns are frequent in the field.

Although the general design and layout is broadly similar to the previous Super Heavy tank, the now retired Tiger, the Devastator weighs more than twice as much. This is due to its substantially thicker armour, stronger Shield, larger weapons, and more solidly-built transmission and suspension.

The Devastator classes great amount of fire-power and protection has earned it a fierce reputation, entire enemy forces have been known to surrender upon seeing only one of them. Devastator tanks are regularly used as short range transports due to their excellent protection, so much that they include a space on the top of their turret where troops may sit down. Some where converted to full transports in 2715, creating the IMS-2 Devastator Super Heavy Transport, these where quickly withdrawn from service though, as they proved too slow to act as full fledged transports. Each Devastator tank is powered by one cronite reactor, which keeps it's electric engines charged. This reactor can last for quite a long time without a refuelling, this gives the Devastator a very large operation range. It is very slow however, due to it's massive size.

=PWND by orbital strike or in atmosphere fighter

[Tierra Prime]

I agree with the orbital strike, that would kill it. The fighter would have some trouble against it's flak railguns and guided drones though I think.

[Inutoland]

What do you guys think of this for a Super Heavy Tank <FT.>?

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Combat Class: Super Heavy Tank
Number in Service: Unknown <I haven't decided yet.>
Length: 50.0 Metres
Width: 24.0 Metres
Height: 22.7 Metres
Weight: 1,000 Tonnes
Crew: 10 <1 Driver, 1 Commander, 6 Gunners & 2 Mechanics.>
Engines: x4 Electric Engines
Armour: 300mm Triniarum Composite Armour <Front.> 180mm <Sides.> 90mm <Back.>
Defensive Systems: Electronic Jamming Device <Also a laser warning system.> Smoke Dispenser
Sights: Polax Multipurpose Sight <Includes thermal and infra red modes.>
Shield Rating: Heavy <Equipped with 2 shield generators.>
Power Supply: 1x Cronite Reactor
Armament: x2 180mm Railguns
1x 90mm Railgun
2x 88mm Flak Cannons
3x 50mm Machine Railguns
1x Drone Launcher <Carries 8 drones.>
Maximum Speed: 20 Km/h
Maximum Operational Range: 250 Kilometres

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The IMS-1 Devastator Super Heavy Tank is a class of Super Heavy Tank in service with the Imperial Army. The Devastator tank is armed with two very powerful 180mm Railguns, a large amount of smaller railguns, two flak cannons, and a drone pod which can launch guided drones. The class is protected by Triniarum Composite Armour, which is very hard to penetrate, and two shield generators. Further protection includes a powerful electronic jamming device, which can disrupt enemy lock on, laser and guidance systems, and a smoke dispenser, which can mask the tank from view.

The Devastator class represents a new approach by Tierran designers that emphasises both firepower, and protection, over speed. While heavy, the Devastator is not slower than the best of its opponents. However, with over one hundred and twenty metric tons of dead weight, suspensions, gearboxes and other such items the tank has clearly reached it's design limits, meaning breakdowns are frequent in the field.

Although the general design and layout is broadly similar to the previous Super Heavy tank, the now retired Tiger, the Devastator weighs more than twice as much. This is due to its substantially thicker armour, stronger Shield, larger weapons, and more solidly-built transmission and suspension.

The Devastator classes great amount of fire-power and protection has earned it a fierce reputation, entire enemy forces have been known to surrender upon seeing only one of them. Devastator tanks are regularly used as short range transports due to their excellent protection, so much that they include a space on the top of their turret where troops may sit down. Some where converted to full transports in 2715, creating the IMS-2 Devastator Super Heavy Transport, these where quickly withdrawn from service though, as they proved too slow to act as full fledged transports. Each Devastator tank is powered by one cronite reactor, which keeps it's electric engines charged. This reactor can last for quite a long time without a refuelling, this gives the Devastator a very large operation range. It is very slow however, due to it's massive size.

=PWND by orbital strike or in atmosphere fighter

Nah. Ripped to shreds by all of the uber-tank-geeks that hang out in this thread because it's a double-barreled failmonster. You Have Been Warned.

[United Districts of 1]

I agree with the orbital strike, that would kill it. The fighter would have some trouble against it's flak railguns and guided drones though I think.

Or the fighter fires off a missile guided by an orbital drone and turns around before it's even in scanner range.

[Minnysota]

I agree with the orbital strike, that would kill it. The fighter would have some trouble against it's flak railguns and guided drones though I think.

Fighters and stealth strike aircraft could probably rip that thing to shreds. The fighters could launch from a farther out distance and then fly out of range of your defenses. The stealth strike fighters could just pop in and drop bombs or missiles on the thing.

[United Districts of 1]

I agree with the orbital strike, that would kill it. The fighter would have some trouble against it's flak railguns and guided drones though I think.

Fighters and stealth strike aircraft could probably rip that thing to shreds. The fighters could launch from a farther out distance and then fly out of range of your defenses. The stealth strike fighters could just pop in and drop bombs or missiles on the thing.

And why? when you could build a frigate for the same price?

[Licana]

What do you guys think of this for a Super Heavy Tank <FT.>?

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Combat Class: Super Heavy Tank
Number in Service: Unknown <I haven't decided yet.>
Length: 40.0 Metres
Width: 24.0 Metres
Height: 22.7 Metres
Weight: 1,000 Tonnes
Crew: 10 <1 Driver, 1 Commander, 6 Gunners & 2 Mechanics.>
Engines: x4 Electric Engines
Armour: 300mm Triniarum Composite Armour <Front.> 180mm <Sides.> 90mm <Back.>
Defensive Systems: Electronic Jamming Device <Also a laser warning system.> Smoke Dispenser
Sights: Polax Multipurpose Sight <Includes thermal and infra red modes.>
Shield Rating: Heavy <Equipped with 2 shield generators.>
Power Supply: 1x Cronite Reactor
Armament: x2 180mm Railguns
1x 90mm Railgun
2x 88mm Flak Cannons
3x 50mm Machine Railguns
1x Drone Launcher <Carries 8 drones.>
Maximum Speed: 40 Km/h
Maximum Operational Range: 250 Kilometres

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The IMS-1 Devastator Super Heavy Tank is a class of Super Heavy Tank in service with the Imperial Army. The Devastator tank is armed with two very powerful 180mm Railguns, a large amount of smaller railguns, two flak cannons, and a drone pod which can launch guided drones. The class is protected by Triniarum Composite Armour, which is very hard to penetrate, and two shield generators. Further protection includes a powerful electronic jamming device, which can disrupt enemy lock on, laser and guidance systems, and a smoke dispenser, which can mask the tank from view.

The Devastator class represents a new approach by Tierran designers that emphasises both firepower, and protection, over speed. While heavy, the Devastator is not slower than the best of its opponents. However, with over one thousand metric tons of dead weight, suspensions, gearboxes and other such items the tank has clearly reached it's design limits, meaning breakdowns are frequent in the field.

Although the general design and layout is broadly similar to the previous Super Heavy tank, the now retired Tiger, the Devastator weighs more than twice as much. This is due to its substantially thicker armour, stronger Shield, larger weapons, and more solidly-built transmission and suspension.

The Devastator classes great amount of fire-power and protection has earned it a fierce reputation, entire enemy forces have been known to surrender upon seeing only one of them. Devastator tanks are regularly used as short range transports due to their excellent protection, so much that they include a space on the top of their turret where troops may sit down. Some where converted to full transports in 2715, creating the IMS-2 Devastator Super Heavy Transport, these where quickly withdrawn from service though, as they proved too slow to act as full fledged transports. Each Devastator tank is powered by one cronite reactor, which keeps it's electric engines charged. This reactor can last for quite a long time without a refuelling, this gives the Devastator a very large operation range. It is very slow however, due to it's massive size.

Oh god, why are you using 180mm railguns? Why are you using dual railguns? Also, you explain next to nothing in your write-up, instead using pure technobable/wank (which I suppose is acceptable for FT, so really, no further critique).

[Radictistan]

I was thinking that this summer during my spare time (if I have any) I could try making a PT tank in order to try and teach myself to do some lineart. Does anyone have any objections to this draft writeup? It's basically a slightly enlarged AMC 35.

T-8 Cavalry Tank (1939)

Weight: 16,500 kg
Length: 4.94m
Width: 2.36m
Height: 2.31m
Crew: 3 (Commander, Loader, Driver)
Armor: 8-32 mm
Primary Armament: 47mm/L40 M1935
Secondary Armament: coaxial 7.62mm machine gun
Power: 200 hp (Petrol)
Power/Weight: 8.9 W/Kg
Range: 200 km
Speed: 40 km/h

In 1936 the Royal Radictistan Army issued a requirement for a new light tank, in order to replace the standard T-7, which mounted a 37mm gun and 23mm of armor. The requirement called for a vehicle of about sixteen tonnes mounting the 47mm M1935 anti-tank gun which had been well received by infantry anti-tank units. Both Radictistan Automotive Works and its principal military competitor, the Brightburger Foundry, delivered prototypes for consideration in the summer of 1937. After extensive trials the Brightburger design was selected by the cavalry and designated T-8. The tank's introduction into service was delayed until the spring of 1939 in order to allow for the development of a hydraulic traverse system for the turret. The T-8 was protected by a maximum of 32mm of rolled homogenous steel armor on the turret face and glacis. The protection level tapered to a mere 8mm in the rear. The cast turret carried both the commander and loader. The tank commander was responsible for aiming and firing the gun in addition to commanding the vehicle. Three hundred and forty T-8s were manufactured up until July 1941. The chassis was also used for the ZT-1 tank destroyer.

[Tierra Prime]

What do you guys think of this for a Super Heavy Tank <FT.>?

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Combat Class: Super Heavy Tank
Number in Service: Unknown <I haven't decided yet.>
Length: 40.0 Metres
Width: 24.0 Metres
Height: 22.7 Metres
Weight: 1,000 Tonnes
Crew: 10 <1 Driver, 1 Commander, 6 Gunners & 2 Mechanics.>
Engines: x4 Electric Engines
Armour: 300mm Triniarum Composite Armour <Front.> 180mm <Sides.> 90mm <Back.>
Defensive Systems: Electronic Jamming Device <Also a laser warning system.> Smoke Dispenser
Sights: Polax Multipurpose Sight <Includes thermal and infra red modes.>
Shield Rating: Heavy <Equipped with 2 shield generators.>
Power Supply: 1x Cronite Reactor
Armament: x2 180mm Railguns
1x 90mm Railgun
2x 88mm Flak Cannons
3x 50mm Machine Railguns
1x Drone Launcher <Carries 8 drones.>
Maximum Speed: 40 Km/h
Maximum Operational Range: 250 Kilometres

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The IMS-1 Devastator Super Heavy Tank is a class of Super Heavy Tank in service with the Imperial Army. The Devastator tank is armed with two very powerful 180mm Railguns, a large amount of smaller railguns, two flak cannons, and a drone pod which can launch guided drones. The class is protected by Triniarum Composite Armour, which is very hard to penetrate, and two shield generators. Further protection includes a powerful electronic jamming device, which can disrupt enemy lock on, laser and guidance systems, and a smoke dispenser, which can mask the tank from view.

The Devastator class represents a new approach by Tierran designers that emphasises both firepower, and protection, over speed. While heavy, the Devastator is not slower than the best of its opponents. However, with over one thousand metric tons of dead weight, suspensions, gearboxes and other such items the tank has clearly reached it's design limits, meaning breakdowns are frequent in the field.

Although the general design and layout is broadly similar to the previous Super Heavy tank, the now retired Tiger, the Devastator weighs more than twice as much. This is due to its substantially thicker armour, stronger Shield, larger weapons, and more solidly-built transmission and suspension.

The Devastator classes great amount of fire-power and protection has earned it a fierce reputation, entire enemy forces have been known to surrender upon seeing only one of them. Devastator tanks are regularly used as short range transports due to their excellent protection, so much that they include a space on the top of their turret where troops may sit down. Some where converted to full transports in 2715, creating the IMS-2 Devastator Super Heavy Transport, these where quickly withdrawn from service though, as they proved too slow to act as full fledged transports. Each Devastator tank is powered by one cronite reactor, which keeps it's electric engines charged. This reactor can last for quite a long time without a refuelling, this gives the Devastator a very large operation range. It is very slow however, due to it's massive size.

Oh god, why are you using 180mm railguns? Why are you using dual railguns? Also, you explain next to nothing in your write-up, instead using pure technobable/wank (which I suppose is acceptable for FT, so really, no further critique).

what's wrong with 180mm? Dual guns are cool. It's a first draft, there's not meant to much there, and how is it wank? I can get the technobabble bit though, I didn't explain Cronite <Basically a nuclear reactor.> or Triniarum <Super steel.> at all.

[Bellganamos]

Oh god, why are you using 180mm railguns? Why are you using dual railguns? Also, you explain next to nothing in your write-up, instead using pure technobable/wank (which I suppose is acceptable for FT, so really, no further critique).

what's wrong with 180mm? Dual guns are cool. It's a first draft, there's not meant to much there, and how is it wank? I can get the technobabble bit though, I didn't explain Cronite <Basically a nuclear reactor.> or Triniarum <Super steel.> at all.

A tank with a nuclear reactor?

[Tierra Prime]

what's wrong with 180mm? Dual guns are cool. It's a first draft, there's not meant to much there, and how is it wank? I can get the technobabble bit though, I didn't explain Cronite <Basically a nuclear reactor.> or Triniarum <Super steel.> at all.

A tank with a nuclear reactor?

A very, very small reactor. It tends to explode when the tank is seriously damaged.... That's the Devestator's main draw back.

[Licana]

Oh god, why are you using 180mm railguns? Why are you using dual railguns? Also, you explain next to nothing in your write-up, instead using pure technobable/wank (which I suppose is acceptable for FT, so really, no further critique).

what's wrong with 180mm? Dual guns are cool. It's a first draft, there's not meant to much there, and how is it wank? I can get the technobabble bit though, I didn't explain Cronite <Basically a nuclear reactor.> or Triniarum <Super steel.> at all.

Railguns don't get "moar bettar" with larger calibers. A 90mm railgun will probably do the same job as a 180mm just as well while not eating up your ammunition stores. Dual anything on something not designed for volume-of-fire isn't terribly good, either. Even without the recoil produced by a conventional gun, a dual railgun system would still take up space (which could be used for additional secondary armament for fending off pesky infantry/aircraft/aircraft infantry, or ammunition storage, or to give the crew a minifridge, something useful) and probably wouldn't eat up as much energy, either (allowing you to direct more of it to something that isn't wasteful). Also, you may want to explain such things in your write up, so that they don't come off as made up words that allow you to make an infeasible design work.

[Tierra Prime]

what's wrong with 180mm? Dual guns are cool. It's a first draft, there's not meant to much there, and how is it wank? I can get the technobabble bit though, I didn't explain Cronite <Basically a nuclear reactor.> or Triniarum <Super steel.> at all.

Railguns don't get "moar bettar" with larger calibers. A 90mm railgun will probably do the same job as a 180mm just as well while not eating up your ammunition stores. Dual anything on something not designed for volume-of-fire isn't terribly good, either. Even without the recoil produced by a conventional gun, a dual railgun system would still take up space (which could be used for additional secondary armament for fending off pesky infantry/aircraft/aircraft infantry, or ammunition storage, or to give the crew a minifridge, something useful) and probably wouldn't eat up as much energy, either (allowing you to direct more of it to something that isn't wasteful). Also, you may want to explain such things in your write up, so that they don't come off as made up words that allow you to make an infeasible design work.

To be honest, I don't have a clue about how calibers work, I put in 180mm because it sounded cool, same with the dual guns, they sounded cool too.

[Senestrum]

Small nuclear reactors have terrible power/weight ratios. Just go with a massive turbine or a lawlhueg diesel.

[Licana]

To be honest, I don't have a clue about how calibers work, I put in 180mm because it sounded cool, same with the dual guns, they sounded cool too.

Unfortunately, these over-the-top "cool" things tend to be completely useless.

[Sol Bella]

Sol Bella's main battle tank, being a former Spanish dependent nation and thus having similar organization, use the Leopard 2E http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2E

[Anastasia Romanova (Ancient)]

We call her X-9.

ARMAMENTS:
TWO 105 Howitzer cannons(Bottom),
TWO 25mm Vulcan auto-cannons(Middle),
TWO 'Meteorshower' anti armor missile clusters(Top),
ONE MOAB guided cruise missile(Very Top, Rear)
DEFENSE:
Absolute Territory Defense Field
CREW:
ONE Pilot
ONE AT Field coordinator.

We've only ever lost one, and it was captured. Fortunately we reclaimed it before the enemy could figure out the controls.

[Freeland Tibet]

Due to our tiny, low funded defense force, the Sherman is our MBT of choice.