by General T R Franks » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:55 am
by San Petulina » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:10 am
by RhynoD » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:19 am
San Petulina wrote:Cool story, bro.
Sarkhaan wrote:This. And just about everything else RhynoD said.
by Kryozerkia » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:43 am
San Petulina wrote:Cool story, bro.
by The Sedge » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:13 am
by Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:24 am
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Anime Daisuki » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:23 am
by General T R Franks » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:05 pm
by The Sedge » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:15 pm
by Mavenu » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:17 pm
by Scolopendra » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:56 pm
General T R Franks wrote:The scope to railroad further destructive and coercive WA SCR's by narrow NS forum moderation viewpoint has been challenged directly and the 'primacy of the gamemap' in point of fact has been established by the now undeleted 'gamemap manifesto' which correctly places the NS forum as supplemental to the NationStates game and not some replacement or usurpment of it:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14641
if NS hopes to replicate geopolitical complexity and relevance vis-a-vis the real world
So by any yardstick NS wandering off into fantasyland that there is or ever was some central ruling power who could 'go anywhere, do anything and always achieve their whim' decouples NS from geopolitical real world complexity and it's all downhill from there.
If anything, what we have seen is that despite the onslaught to NS that NS2 was, it's the longer term player constituency who function well as independent autonomous self-governing communities who have kept this game alive.
by Atlas Holdings » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:14 am
by Scolopendra » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:35 am
by Zooob » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:44 pm
by Algy non » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:47 pm
by Scolopendra » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:50 pm
Zooob wrote:I will decide how the game is played by me on the gamemap and what makes sense in a geopolitical context to me, not you. And, so will everyone else decide what makes sense to themselves. So chill on the 'big Stalin' act.
It's too bad if your last century idealism doesn't cut it with 21st century cultural mash and clash, and I don't give a damn about your restricted metaphysical framework or the angst you have expressing it either.
I denounce your attempts to persecute individual player classes - you're meant to be a mod, pretend you're neutral here, and stop presuming I am criticising anyone for their gamemap contributions. I am criticising them for their lack of gamemap contributions - so pull your head in, read the previous post and try to refer to the notion of 'geopolitical relevance vis-a-vis the real world'.
Keep attacking me if you like -
it should be clear I don't give a damn about what you say about anything,
so if you want to chime into the debate constructively,
refer to the context outside your narrow forum boundaries and, I assume, rather narrow life experience
- otherwise, why the venom?
Attempting to use an invisible majority to override regional sovereignty on NS while you try to bury raider opposition off this forum isn't gonna happen.
Your type of "idealism at all costs" you evidently wear on your sleeve will always contrast to my "I'll take a bit of idealism, a bit of realism and a whole lot of the other good things and mash them all together". Don't like it? Live in the West? - to bad, look out your window, it's not ideal, it's reality.
Do what you like, say what you like, maybe pretend to be creepy and impartial now rather than just hostile and pro-fenda? It's pretty cool to be a "Franks-hater" in some circles so if you milk that it should give you instant cache.
You might think I can't have my cake and eat it, but with NS you can, otherwise why have the possibility of more than one character? Raiders can/do/will play multiple hands in multiple regions creating multiple complexities of meanings. Too bad you can't handle that or seem not to like it much. I'll give you a round of applause anyway
And, getting back to what this was originally about - did you consider the Somali's position vis-a-vis WA overreach in all this?
by Katganistan » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:25 pm
by Murray the Evil Skull » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:09 am
by Bears Armed » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:06 am
Murray the Evil Skull wrote:Probally he wanted to make it seem like more people supported his reasoning....who know what goes through the minds of invaders.
General T R Franks wrote:Defenders should forget about trying to mitigate the global condemnation they are receiving for their Security Council interference in regional sovereignty
Spamming the board here will not make anyone change their mind about defenders perverting the freedoms of all nations and regions in NS.
WA pervertion of regional sovereignty
Defenders would be better off consulting with their diplomatic cadre either to devise some argument which supports destruction of regional independence of sovereignty across NS or devise a way for them to unsupport it in the same way that long game defenders from Chicago have done by their recent public statement distancing themselves from the contradictory position that you want to 'uphold the right to regional freedom by defending neutral regions' while simimultaneously stripping regions of their independent status and right to regional autonomy they have enjoyed since the game began rolling out of the Pacifics.
2) Renounce any and all claim on Feudal Japan as forfeit for 'illegal overreach of WA authority by abuse of Security Council process' thereby acknowledging that one cannot champion or 'defend' regional rights by destroying region sovereignty and autonomy.
your inappropriate actions and untenable position which attacks the freedoms of all players and regions in NS while pretending to defend them.
look to creative ways to expand your influence which are not at the expense of independent communities and all players across NS.
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