Ceannairceach wrote:Both Bush's were idiots.
No, George H.W. Bush was a pretty good president. He's definitely not in the same league as his son...
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by Vetalia » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:53 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Both Bush's were idiots.
by NERVUN » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:54 pm
Dakini wrote:NERVUN wrote:Dakini, I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but majority leaders in Congress do NOT have the same party control over their members that various assemblies run under the Westminister system do.
A majority in Congress just means you might have an easier time of passage.
Well, for the sane parties here it isn't always necessary to vote with the party (usually) either. The mace in parliament is just ceremonial now and the party leaders don't get to beat dissenters with it anymore (which would probably have hurt a lot since it looks really big). If Mr Obama could have just met with his own party and got everyone in his party to agree on laws (and negotiated with them prior or as he introduced the laws) then he could have just powered them through, no? That would have been much easier than reaching across the aisle.
by Jedi8246 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:57 pm
Conservative Morality wrote:When you call Bieber feminine, you insult all women.
Agadar wrote:Next thing you know, God turns out to be some weird green space monster with tentacles and a monocle.
Khadgar wrote:Oddly enough, a lot of people who are plotting to harm other people aren't really interested in legal niceties.
by Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:58 pm
by The Norwegian Blue » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:59 pm
Pirate Girl wrote:51% of goverment funds go to unemployment,welfare,and other stuff.
by Jedi8246 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:01 pm
Conservative Morality wrote:When you call Bieber feminine, you insult all women.
Agadar wrote:Next thing you know, God turns out to be some weird green space monster with tentacles and a monocle.
Khadgar wrote:Oddly enough, a lot of people who are plotting to harm other people aren't really interested in legal niceties.
by Augarundus » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:01 pm
Ublakeistan wrote:Worst President fucking ever
by Wamitoria » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:02 pm
by Ronald and Pennywise » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:03 pm
Augarundus wrote:Ublakeistan wrote:Worst President fucking ever
Hmm... no.
Besides, he had some interesting social policythat he failed to deliver on...
In any case, there are worse. Bush didn't even THEORETICALLY advocate liberal social policy, and his economic policy is similar to Obama's (and essentially every president in the last 100 years, barring a few... like Coolidge and Harding... sorta').
FDR, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, etc. are all worse BY MILES. If you take away the common perception of Reagan as a "Warrior of Capitalism" (he raised taxes during his administration... though there is truth in the war-mongering "warrior" part), he sucked too.
by Threlizdun » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:05 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:05 pm
by Jedi8246 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:05 pm
Augarundus wrote:Ublakeistan wrote:Worst President fucking ever
Hmm... no.
Besides, he had some interesting social policythat he failed to deliver on...
In any case, there are worse. Bush didn't even THEORETICALLY advocate liberal social policy, and his economic policy is similar to Obama's (and essentially every president in the last 100 years, barring a few... like Coolidge and Harding... sorta').
FDR, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, etc. are all worse BY MILES. If you take away the common perception of Reagan as a "Warrior of Capitalism" (he raised taxes during his administration... though there is truth in the war-mongering "warrior" part), he sucked too.
Conservative Morality wrote:When you call Bieber feminine, you insult all women.
Agadar wrote:Next thing you know, God turns out to be some weird green space monster with tentacles and a monocle.
Khadgar wrote:Oddly enough, a lot of people who are plotting to harm other people aren't really interested in legal niceties.
by Mike the Progressive » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:06 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:06 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:07 pm
Pirate Girl wrote:As the start of a so called "Change" for the U.S..Nothing has happened,what i saw yesterday said that more people are relying on the goverment for services.51% of goverment funds go to unemployment,welfare,and other stuff.What are your thoughts obama a bad idea or no?
by Xanicea » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:07 pm
Sibirsky wrote:The Norwegian Blue wrote:
This is truly a fantastic sentence. Thank you for brightening my day by writing it. It's right up there with those ads that tell me I could "save up to 15% or more."
100% of government spending goes to "stuff government spends money on."
I know. I am just as shocked as you are.
by Ridann » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:07 pm
Pirate Girl wrote:As the start of a so called "Change" for the U.S..Nothing has happened,what i saw yesterday said that more people are relying on the goverment for services.51% of goverment funds go to unemployment,welfare,and other stuff.What are your thoughts obama a bad idea or no?
Pirate girl
by Revolutopia » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:08 pm
Jedi8246 wrote:Augarundus wrote:
Hmm... no.
Besides, he had some interesting social policythat he failed to deliver on...
In any case, there are worse. Bush didn't even THEORETICALLY advocate liberal social policy, and his economic policy is similar to Obama's (and essentially every president in the last 100 years, barring a few... like Coolidge and Harding... sorta').
FDR, Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, etc. are all worse BY MILES. If you take away the common perception of Reagan as a "Warrior of Capitalism" (he raised taxes during his administration... though there is truth in the war-mongering "warrior" part), he sucked too.
Reagan had more tax cuts than raises. But otherwise, I agree with your other worst by miles list.
by The American Guilds » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:09 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:09 pm
by Sibirsky » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:10 pm
The American Guilds wrote:Is it alright if I want to shoot all politicians in the face?
by Siorafrica » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:11 pm
NERVUN wrote:... I'm still not sure just what people expected. I mean, did you honestly think the president can wave a magic wand and change what he likes in the government?
As for the services, we've kinda had this small economic problem you might have heard about, sort of causes people to fall back on the safety nets more...
by Yesiree » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:17 pm
Siorafrica wrote:Civil liberties,Iraq,Afghnaistan,moving to the centre thereby leaving the poor with nobody to turn to,his speeches sound like Republican ones. He failed to live up to the hype. In a 2 party system he isn't much different to the other party,that's a problem for democracy. Of course he inherited a tough situation but this especially is not the time for weak leadership.
by Augarundus » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:17 pm
Ronald and Pennywise wrote:way to be a party pooper so now everyone sucks?
Jedi8246 wrote:Reagan had more tax cuts than raises. But otherwise, I agree with your other worst by miles list.
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