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by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:40 pm
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:42 pm
by Greed and Death » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:52 pm
by West Guiana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:55 pm
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:56 pm
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:03 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:11 pm
Buurdland wrote:West Guiana wrote:
I'd rather vote for communism than the Nazi's.
Why? The Commies were weak and had a terrible economy and let any old person join their country. Plus they committed far worse crimes in both peace and war. Remember the Winter War? The Right at least has a strong military. What does the left have?
by Greed and Death » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:13 pm
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:15 pm
by West Guiana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:19 pm
Buurdland wrote:You mean not showing up for work for 3 weeks straight is a good morale to have? You mean killing the economy is good as long as it gets you what YOU want? Man and I thought you liberals were selfish before!
by Turmoilandia » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:19 pm
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:22 pm
West Guiana wrote:Buurdland wrote:You mean not showing up for work for 3 weeks straight is a good morale to have? You mean killing the economy is good as long as it gets you what YOU want? Man and I thought you liberals were selfish before!
For what we want, WE don't WANT two wars but YOU WANT wars, WE have morals, because we care about the working class and know that the Koch brothers didn't vote the republican Nazi's in office. The Repubs did the most un-democratic thing ever THEY forcefully pushed something through without any second thoughts they passed a law like dictators.
by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:23 pm
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:24 pm
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Buurdland wrote:
You mean not showing up for work for 3 weeks straight is a good morale to have? You mean killing the economy is good as long as it gets you what YOU want? Man and I thought you liberals were selfish before!
I understand comrade...a good worker is a good member of the party.
by West Guiana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:30 pm
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Buurdland wrote:
You mean not showing up for work for 3 weeks straight is a good morale to have? You mean killing the economy is good as long as it gets you what YOU want? Man and I thought you liberals were selfish before!
I understand comrade...a good worker is a good member of the party.
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:58 pm
Buurdland wrote:West Guiana wrote:
For what we want, WE don't WANT two wars but YOU WANT wars, WE have morals, because we care about the working class and know that the Koch brothers didn't vote the republican Nazi's in office. The Repubs did the most un-democratic thing ever THEY forcefully pushed something through without any second thoughts they passed a law like dictators.
Are you forgetting that the Democrats pushed Obamacare through in an undemocratic fashion?
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Occupied Deutschland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:00 pm
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:13 pm
by Grave_n_idle » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:23 pm
Buurdland wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:Over a year of back and forth arguing, conceding points, and endless bitching is undemocratic? Since when?
The way in which it was passed allowed it to skip voting in the Senate did it not? How exactly is that democratic in the least? If it was a bill that the people wanted it would have passed both the House and Senate...
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:29 pm
Grave_n_idle wrote:Buurdland wrote:
The way in which it was passed allowed it to skip voting in the Senate did it not? How exactly is that democratic in the least? If it was a bill that the people wanted it would have passed both the House and Senate...
Your logic... isn't.
The representatives are democratically elected, but that doesn't mean any given bill is going to be voted on democratically, since party politics is obviously going to figure into it.
For example - 60% of Americans favour a public option. If the bill creation/amendment process were truly democratic (apart from it being a horrible confusion, all the time), then politicians would not be voting along partisan lines, or trading favours - they'd be giving majority support to a public option.
But that's not the way it works, and most Americans understand that when they vote. They accept that they democratically elect (fairly democratically, at least) representatives who may or may not act democratically themselves.
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:32 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Buurdland » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:44 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Buurdland wrote:
The way in which it was passed allowed it to skip voting in the Senate did it not?
It did? Can you source that? If it's true, I wasn't aware of it and I will be glad to join you in being damn pissed about it. I will not, however, say that something being done despite being publicly unpopular is undemocratic. I would expect legislatures to have more information about the potential effects of their bills than the average citizens, that's why they have huge staffs of aides, and sometimes being a leader means doing what is right instead of what is popular.
by Revolutopia » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:46 pm
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