Lets be real (The Neu Maxia Treaty Organization idea)

[Souverain Revachol]

Is all this sudden anti-defender sentiment against actual defender power abuses or do these mfs just want regions to let themselves be raided and their nations ejected lmao

[Total Drama 2]

It's like with defenders. They claim to care for justice and native nations but they're only want the glory and lead more destruction to most raided regions they touch from the "malicious" raiders. Nice to see you had a good time and if you want, you can join HOTA next N-Day.

...is this a bit or do you genuinely believe you did it out of the kindness of your heart?

The latter because defenders had become hypocritical knight templars. For an example, there was the Simone incident when the dude wanted to help an extremely controversial anti-choice region when it got rightfully raided by issuing an draft to injunct its password, despite being labeled as do-not-defend region from even other defenders. More details are in this thread

[Souverain Revachol]

...is this a bit or do you genuinely believe you did it out of the kindness of your heart?

The latter because defenders had become hypocritical knight templars. For an example, there was the Simona incident when the dude wanted to help an extremely controversial anti-choice region when it got rightfully raided by issuing an draft to injunct its password, despite being labeled as do-not-defend region from even other defenders. More details are in this thread

yeah, i'm not denying it happened. I just question the necessity of saying "defenders are obsolete lmfao" or somthing to that effect.

[Kractero]

...is this a bit or do you genuinely believe you did it out of the kindness of your heart?

The latter because defenders had become hypocritical knight templars. For an example, there was the Simona incident when the dude wanted to help an extremely controversial anti-choice region when it got rightfully raided by issuing an draft to injunct its password, despite being labeled as do-not-defend region from even other defenders. More details are in this thread

It would be worth correcting Simonia to Simone

[Total Drama 2]

The latter because defenders had become hypocritical knight templars. For an example, there was the Simona incident when the dude wanted to help an extremely controversial anti-choice region when it got rightfully raided by issuing an draft to injunct its password, despite being labeled as do-not-defend region from even other defenders. More details are in this thread

yeah, i'm not denying it happened. I just question the necessity of saying "defenders are obsolete lmfao" or somthing to that effect.

I just dislike defenders at their current state.

[Opiachus]

as a Grand Coalition member who occasionally posted on this forum during the event, i noticed that there was not much discussion here between factions. at no time was "hey look at what HOTA is doing we should stop them" brought up. the closest thing was my thread i posted, "will atomic defense union survive 112k targets?" viewtopic.php?f=41&t=556182 which was when ADU was being attacked by HOTA and us Grand Coalition members were trying to help shield. nobody from another faction commented on it, but imagine if others had commented and that would have been the start of some kind of anti-HOTA alliance? by that point it was probably too late, but what if someone from JEFF had made a thread when they were struggling? if there was more of this type of "hey check this out" or "we need help" in public discussion areas like this forum then maybe things would be different. i think part of the issue is factions try to pull people to communicate on offsite discords or still-not-open means like RMBs and since each faction is its own walled garden inter-faction communication is difficult without faction-to-faction ambassadors inside the walled gardens which arent really efficient. for example near the end someone from EDF joined our Grand Coalition RMB and requested a coordinated strike, and only then did we really have a precision planned multi-faction strike on a target (not HOTA, RainDrop, but imagine if we had enough factions onboard for one on HOTA). that strike was 33k nukes in a single wave, HOTA could marshal 200k, so to match HOTA would have to scale it up by 6 (so go from 2 "anti-monopoly" regions cooperating to 12, less if JEFF or a "monopoly" was on board)

[Spyri]

yeah, i'm not denying it happened. I just question the necessity of saying "defenders are obsolete lmfao" or somthing to that effect.

I just dislike defenders at their current state.

as someone who hadn't been on the site in a decade; the state of r/d upon my return is a joke.

[Trump Almighty]

The fsa was a distraction... The fsa kind off won here... Since they got destroyed and the destroyers let the REAL threats grow. Like a indestructible dragon.

I find it completely bizarre that the Fifth Empire and other factions led by self-described fascist regions would gleefully attach “kick me” signs to the back of their faction every N-Day. It’s eerily similar to what Jebtopia did last year

[Total Drama 2]

The fsa was a distraction... The fsa kind off won here... Since they got destroyed and the destroyers let the REAL threats grow. Like a indestructible dragon.

I find it completely bizarre that the Fifth Empire and other factions led by self-described fascist regions would gleefully attach “kick me” signs to the back of their faction every N-Day. It’s eerily similar to what Jebtopia did last year

Hey Trump, when you're president, give FSA the official American Clown medal.

[Westinor]

nt, gl next time

[0cala]

as a Grand Coalition member who occasionally posted on this forum during the event, i noticed that there was not much discussion here between factions. at no time was "hey look at what HOTA is doing we should stop them" brought up. the closest thing was my thread i posted, "will atomic defense union survive 112k targets?" viewtopic.php?f=41&t=556182 which was when ADU was being attacked by HOTA and us Grand Coalition members were trying to help shield. nobody from another faction commented on it, but imagine if others had commented and that would have been the start of some kind of anti-HOTA alliance? by that point it was probably too late, but what if someone from JEFF had made a thread when they were struggling? if there was more of this type of "hey check this out" or "we need help" in public discussion areas like this forum then maybe things would be different. i think part of the issue is factions try to pull people to communicate on offsite discords or still-not-open means like RMBs and since each faction is its own walled garden inter-faction communication is difficult without faction-to-faction ambassadors inside the walled gardens which arent really efficient. for example near the end someone from EDF joined our Grand Coalition RMB and requested a coordinated strike, and only then did we really have a precision planned multi-faction strike on a target (not HOTA, RainDrop, but imagine if we had enough factions onboard for one on HOTA). that strike was 33k nukes in a single wave, HOTA could marshal 200k, so to match HOTA would have to scale it up by 6 (so go from 2 "anti-monopoly" regions cooperating to 12, less if JEFF or a "monopoly" was on board)

Should've cried to TR for help! we destroyed 30K nukes easily ourselves with minimal damages. (nukes came from HOTA)

[Yangchenia]

Just honestly shocked at how much HOTA dominated lol. KHAN is second but still 900K behind. Also the sheer amount of nukes ANAL got hit with.

[Sloventa]

One time I was in the jeff discord server for diplomatic stuff and a HOTA member comes we made fun of him kind of... Then a south park gif of somebody beating a horse, that hota member said it was bit far farther than Germany... Maybe I was a bit hard too but then i said something along the lines of "your the 1st hated faction 2nd fsa and look at them" and "I think we could agree to stop fighting for a second and decend on you" and he responded with "good luck" then I made this half joke and quote "Hey JEFF what you think about a coalition against the hota" of course nobody said anything about it... And had conservations with some Europe defense force members on discord and we we're coming up with names what it would be called like the alliance or coalition I would call it... Like I put down "Coyotes against the apocalypse" arguably the best name but there where others like one put a few like "top 9" and horsemen society, one put "Security Entente Meticulously Energized by Nanobots"... We should have gone full through on that.

[Sloventa]

I find it completely bizarre that the Fifth Empire and other factions led by self-described fascist regions would gleefully attach “kick me” signs to the back of their faction every N-Day. It’s eerily similar to what Jebtopia did last year

Hey Trump, when you're president, give FSA the official American Clown medal.

Yea no. don't give them a medal... How about the Clown participation ribbon though.

[Total Drama 2]

Hey Trump, when you're president, give FSA the official American Clown medal.

Yea no. don't give them a medal... How about the Clown participation ribbon though.

That would work.

[New Temecula]

nt, gl next time

I cannot tell if this refers to me, but thanks for the luck anyways! :3

[Audioslavia]

Let's stop the off-topic R/D debate, cheers

[Sloventa]

Update: I've have seemed to made a concept of an Organisation for this exact Issue... But I would have to wait a year... or half a year. I remember N-day 10.

[Opiachus]

Update: I've have seemed to made a concept of an Organisation for this exact Issue... But I would have to wait a year... or half a year. I remember N-day 10.

That's great that we have a concept of a plan now, can't wait for the next one then!

[Tricorniolis]

I don't really understand what some people want the anti-megafactions to do...attack them alone with a few nukes and then get annihilated in return within minutes? If there is no proper sense of cooperation or willingness to stand against the factions like HOTA, how do you expect anti-megafactions to stand against them alone pointlessly and instead of attacking mini factions to gain points and try to move up the leaderboard? We have learnt from our mistakes, we have taken ideas, we are preparing plans and thinking strategies about what could be done. For people defending the HotA for defending them, yes HotA defended the GC too, then destroyed them. HotA is a self-proclaimed dictator of the N-Day who decides at the end who attacks who and who defends who, just for fun and for their own gain, as is every faction trying to out there.

[Jewish Partisan Division]

A friendly reminder that Hota could have been taken out had you all taken advantage of their lack of ability to do anything because of captchas

[Varnash]

Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

we were simply attacking you because we assumed you were against us bc you hadn’t asked for a NAP or MDP

if you had asked for a mutual defense pact while we were attacking y’all, we would have glady stopped

and HOTA wasn’t defending you guys out of the goodness of their hearts, they were actually preventing everyone from sending nukes at every single faction to prevent all the other factions from gaining anymore points to keep 1st place, which is extremely scummy

if you want to have a mutual defense pact with The Grand Coalition in the future, i’m sure our commanders would gladly accept

[Varnash]

as a Grand Coalition member who occasionally posted on this forum during the event, i noticed that there was not much discussion here between factions. at no time was "hey look at what HOTA is doing we should stop them" brought up. the closest thing was my thread i posted, "will atomic defense union survive 112k targets?" viewtopic.php?f=41&t=556182 which was when ADU was being attacked by HOTA and us Grand Coalition members were trying to help shield. nobody from another faction commented on it, but imagine if others had commented and that would have been the start of some kind of anti-HOTA alliance? by that point it was probably too late, but what if someone from JEFF had made a thread when they were struggling? if there was more of this type of "hey check this out" or "we need help" in public discussion areas like this forum then maybe things would be different. i think part of the issue is factions try to pull people to communicate on offsite discords or still-not-open means like RMBs and since each faction is its own walled garden inter-faction communication is difficult without faction-to-faction ambassadors inside the walled gardens which arent really efficient. for example near the end someone from EDF joined our Grand Coalition RMB and requested a coordinated strike, and only then did we really have a precision planned multi-faction strike on a target (not HOTA, RainDrop, but imagine if we had enough factions onboard for one on HOTA). that strike was 33k nukes in a single wave, HOTA could marshal 200k, so to match HOTA would have to scale it up by 6 (so go from 2 "anti-monopoly" regions cooperating to 12, less if JEFF or a "monopoly" was on board)

Should've cried to TR for help! we destroyed 30K nukes easily ourselves with minimal damages. (nukes came from HOTA)

well
y’all were kind of firing nukes at us too, so…

we’d most likely be open to cooperating next N-Day, tho!

[Total Drama 2]

Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

we were simply attacking you because we assumed you were against us bc you hadn’t asked for a NAP or MDP

if you had asked for a mutual defense pact while we were attacking y’all, we would have glady stopped

and HOTA wasn’t defending you guys out of the goodness of their hearts, they were actually preventing everyone from sending nukes at every single faction to prevent all the other factions from gaining anymore points to keep 1st place, which is extremely scummy

if you want to have a mutual defense pact with The Grand Coalition in the future, i’m sure our commanders would gladly accept

Textbook CAP, how would they know your NAP/MDP request. Ohh wait, that's right, they didn't know AT ALL! Stop your convenient excuses about indiscriminately striking factions that weren't your rivals. Here's the truth Onigirl, it was actually TGC who were the scummy ones. They waited until we mobilized our arsenal for Grand Coalition to attack everyone else out of the blue, just so they can take 1st place. We wanted WORLD PEACE at this point so we stop any upcoming launches from fruition including your faction. I hope you don't listen to any BS from TGC as they're portraying themselves to be trustworthy when they aren't and also Onigirl, HOTA would and always protect factions like yours from scumbags like The Deceitful Coalition.

[Varnash]

we were simply attacking you because we assumed you were against us bc you hadn’t asked for a NAP or MDP

if you had asked for a mutual defense pact while we were attacking y’all, we would have glady stopped

and HOTA wasn’t defending you guys out of the goodness of their hearts, they were actually preventing everyone from sending nukes at every single faction to prevent all the other factions from gaining anymore points to keep 1st place, which is extremely scummy

if you want to have a mutual defense pact with The Grand Coalition in the future, i’m sure our commanders would gladly accept

Textbook CAP, how would they know your NAP/MDP request. Ohh wait, that's right, they didn't know AT ALL! Stop your convenient excuses about indiscriminately striking factions that weren't your rivals. Here's the truth Onigirl, it was actually TGC who were the scummy ones. They waited until we mobilized our arsenal for Grand Coalition to attack everyone else out of the blue, just so they can take 1st place. We wanted WORLD PEACE at this point so we stop any upcoming launches from fruition including your faction. I hope you don't listen to any BS from TGC as they're portraying themselves to be trustworthy when they aren't and also Onigirl, HOTA would and always protect factions like yours from scumbags like The Deceitful Coalition.

incorrect, HOTA did not want world peace.
in fact, they nuked all of our allies into oblivion before nuking us even though we didn’t nuke them first, they nuked ANAL into oblivion, and they destroyed all other factions mercilessly and without remorse

while they were nuking us, we pleaded for an NAP in their RMB, however they did not listen

however, our faction listened to every faction that pleaded to us for to stop nuking them and we all aided each other in the end
HOTA is spreading lies to make you join their infinite war machine as another disposable nation

if you don’t want us to nuke you in the future, you can ask for an NAP and there’s a 99.999% we’ll listen

we understand if you wouldn’t want to join us, as we might have ruined your N-Day, but you have to understand that what this horseman is saying is complete horse radish, and we ask you to create a non-aggression pact with TGC in the future so that we may aid each other (or just ignore each other if that’s what you’d prefer).